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Title: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: JmOz01 on <09-02-14/2123:57>
Okay, so was asked by one of our players to make a character for him (he does not like making characters...).  All he knew is that he wanted something to fill in gaps and good with a sword.  Decided on a fairly strait Sammy

Our group tends to be fairly balanced between Black Leather and Pink Mohawks.. Also a 10-12 die pool seems normal for us (Our Face throws 10 dice, most combat skills 12).  Our group tends to be a lot of Something/Sammy so something this strait forward...

I am overall happy with him, but still struggling with his Knowledge based skills, also not sure about the whole Bushido thing, seems so cliché

Blades
METATYPE: ORK
B 9, A 5, R 5/7, S 7, W 3, L 3, I 3, C 2, ESS 3.5, EDG 1
Condition Monitor (P/S): 14 / 10
Armor: 11
Limits: Physical 10, Mental 4, Social 4
Physical Initiative: 8/10+3D6
Active Skills: Armorer 3, Automatics 2, Biotech Group 2, Blades 5 (Swords +2), Etiquette 1 (Street +2), Perception 5, Pistols 2, Sneaking 1 (Urban +2)
Knowledge Skills: Asian Philosiphy 5 (Bushido +2), Seattle Safe Houses 3 (Ork Underground +2), Weapons 2
Languages: English N, Or'Zet N
Qualities: Bilingual, Catlike, Code of Honor: Bushido (5dicepool vs. 4), Home Ground (Street Politics): Ork Underground, Quick Healer, SINner (National SIN):  UCAS, Social Stress: Corp
Augmentations:
. . Cyber Arm (Obvious) (Used) (Main Hand) w/ Cyberarm Slide (Used), Cyberlimb Agility (8), Cyberlimb Strength (9), Enhanced Agility (3), Enhanced Strength (2), Large Smuggling Compartment (Used), Smuggling Compartment (Used)
. . Cybereyes (Used) (1) w/ Flare Compensation (Used), Image Link (Used), Smartlink (Used)
. . Synaptic Booster (2)
Gear:
. . Certified Credstick, Standard
. . Datachip
. . Jack Stone w/ Fake License: Concealed Weapon (2), Fake License: Cyberware (2), Fake License: Gun (2), Fake SIN (2), (1 month) Squatter Lifestyle
. . Medkit (3)
. . Meta Link Commlink
. . Plastic Restraints x5
. . Standard Tags x10
. . Urban Explorer Jumpsuit
. . Urban Explorer Jumpsuit Helmet
Weapons:
. . Fichetti Security 600 [Light Pistol, Acc 8, DV 7P, AP –, SA, RC (1), 30 (c)] w/ Folding Stock, Laser Sight, (30x) Regular Ammo, Smartgun System, Internal
. . Ingram Smartgun X [SMG, Acc 6, DV 9P, AP -1, BF/FA, RC 2(3), 32 (c)] w/ (32x) Explosive Rounds, Folding Stock, Gas-Vent System (2), Silencer/Suppressor, Smartgun System, Internal
. . Sword [Blade,Blade, Reach 1, Acc 6, DV 12P, AP -2]
Contacts:
Fixer (Connection 4, Loyalty 2)
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Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: Glyph on <09-02-14/2157:35>
The Bushido thing is cliche, and it doesn't really fit with the rest of the character.  Why would someone growing up in the Ork Underground want to emulate a culture that sent people like him to Yomi Island for no other reason than being a metahuman?  I would go with his ork roots instead, and make it more of an orkish machismo / "Hez" sort of thing.
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: Novocrane on <09-02-14/2247:25>
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Why would someone growing up in the Ork Underground want to emulate a culture that sent people like him to Yomi Island for no other reason than being a metahuman?
Fascination with foreign cultures by people or persons that would, by and large, not be accepted into said foreign culture? I'd assume this exists in both the real world and sixth world.
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: ZeldaBravo on <09-02-14/2352:44>
If you change synaptic booster 2 to alpha wired reflexes1+used reaction enhancers3 combo you'll have a lot of money to spend. A street samurai can use some more ware.
Biotech skill group is not something that you want unless you are planning to be a surgeon or something. If it is there for his cyberarm maintenance you can just pick an appropriate knowledge skill, get Athletics instead. For first aid, change armorer 3 to first aid 3.
Cybereyes are only doing harm, he loses his lowlight vision. Implant smartlink into his natural eyes and use contacts for image link.
This guy could also use a shield, a vehicle and a better commlink.
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: FlowerInMyHeart on <09-03-14/0748:16>

If this is done I can be better than these.
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: JmOz01 on <09-03-14/1556:09>
Not sure i follow last posr
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: Herohades on <09-03-14/2105:54>
Why would someone growing up in the Ork Underground want to emulate a culture that sent people like him to Yomi Island for no other reason than being a metahuman?
If you are going to call yourself a samurai, you should know what that actually means. And Bushido is the whole life of a samurai, so it does make sense.
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: Kincaid on <09-03-14/2132:10>
Why would someone growing up in the Ork Underground want to emulate a culture that sent people like him to Yomi Island for no other reason than being a metahuman?
If you are going to call yourself a samurai, you should know what that actually means. And Bushido is the whole life of a samurai, so it does make sense.

I'll note that the Street Samurai archetype in the book, whatever his financial issues, is an Ork with Code of Honor: Bushido.  The Warrior's Code is clearly defined in the book--for all intents and purposes, that's what Bushido means to a character who takes it.  If he wants to roleplay things like makoto, then great, but we ironically risk proving his point about fascination with foreign cultures by falling over ourselves in attempts to out-Japanese one another.
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: JmOz01 on <09-03-14/2149:21>
I have already decided to drop the Honor for Bad luck.  Also changing skills around to be more of a city boy from ork underground
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: JmOz01 on <09-04-14/0000:13>
Made some changes, took some of the suggestions.  The group is a little like a aggressive/mission taking doc wagon Team (Street doc, ambulance, everyone has some med skills)

 Jinx
METATYPE: ORK
B 9, A 5, R 5/7, S 7, W 3, L 3, I 3, C 2, ESS 3.51, EDG 1
Condition Monitor (P/S): 14 / 10
Armor: 11
Limits: Physical 10, Mental 4, Social 4
Physical Initiative: 8/10+3D6
Active Skills: Blades 5 (Swords +2), Etiquette 4 (Street +2), Firearms Group 2, First Aid 3, Perception 5 (Visual +2), Sneaking 1 (Urban +2)
Knowledge Skills: Medicine 3 (Combat +2), Seatle Sprawl Life 5 (Orc Underground +2), Sports 1 (Urban Brawl +2)
Languages: English N, Or'Zet N
Metatype Abilities: Enhanced Senses: Low-Light Vision
Qualities: Bad Luck, Bilingual, Catlike, Home Ground (You Know a Guy): Ork Underground, Quick Healer, SINner (National SIN):  UCAS, Social Stress: Corp
Augmentations:
. . Cyber Arm (Obvious) (Used) (Main Hand) w/ Cyberarm Slide (Used), Cyberlimb Agility (8), Cyberlimb Strength (9), Enhanced Agility (3), Enhanced Strength (2), Large Smuggling Compartment (Used), Smuggling Compartment (Used)
. . Flare Compensation (Alphaware)
. . Smartlink (Alphaware)
. . Synaptic Booster (2)
Gear:
. . Certified Credstick, Standard
. . Contacts (1) w/ Image Link
. . Datachip
. . Jack Stone w/ Fake License: Concealed Weapon (2), Fake License: Cyberware (2), Fake License: Gun (2), Fake SIN (2), (1 month) Squatter Lifestyle
. . Medkit (2)
. . Meta Link Commlink
. . Plastic Restraints x5
. . Standard Tags x10
. . Stim Patch (5) x2
. . Trauma Patch
. . Urban Explorer Jumpsuit
. . Urban Explorer Jumpsuit Helmet
Weapons:
. . Fichetti Security 600 [Light Pistol, Acc 8, DV 7P, AP –, SA, RC (1), 30 (c)] w/ Flashlight, Low-Light, Folding Stock, Laser Sight, (30x) Regular Ammo, Smartgun System, Internal
. . Ingram Smartgun X [SMG, Acc 6, DV 9P, AP -1, BF/FA, RC 2(3), 32 (c)] w/ (32x) Explosive Rounds, Folding Stock, Gas-Vent System (2), Silencer/Suppressor, Smartgun System, Internal
. . Sword [Blade,Blade, Reach 1, Acc 6, DV 12P, AP -2]
Contacts:
Fixer (Connection 4, Loyalty 2)
Starting ¥: 2D6 x 40¥

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Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: Kincaid on <09-04-14/1728:38>
Any reason you're using the jumpsuit over a standard armor jacket?  Every die counts!

I'd pick up some non-explosive ammo for your Ingram as well.  It's all well and good to suppress the noise of firing the gun, but nothing (outside of a Silence spell) is going to suppress the sound of an explosive round hitting its target.  As a GM, I love reminding players of this  ;D
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: JmOz01 on <09-08-14/1533:35>
I am finalizing now, overall I am happy except for his knowledge skills any sugestions?

Jinx
METATYPE: ORK
B 9, A 5, R 5/7, S 7, W 3, L 3, I 3, C 2, ESS 3.51, EDG 1
Condition Monitor (P/S): 14 / 10
Armor: 12
Limits: Physical 10, Mental 4, Social 4
Physical Initiative: 8/10+3D6
Active Skills: Blades 5 (Swords +2), Etiquette 4 (Street +2), Firearms Group 2, First Aid 3, Perception 5 (Visual +2), Sneaking 1 (Urban +2)
Knowledge Skills: Medicine 3 (Combat +2), Seatle Sprawl Life 5 (Orc Underground +2), Sports 1 (Urban Brawl +2)
Languages: English N, Or'Zet N
Metatype Abilities: Enhanced Senses: Low-Light Vision
Qualities: Bad Luck, Bilingual, Catlike, Home Ground (You Know a Guy): Ork Underground, Quick Healer, SINner (National SIN):  UCAS, Social Stress: Corp
Augmentations:
. . Cyber Arm (Obvious) (Used) (Main Hand) w/ Cyberarm Slide (Used), Cyberlimb Agility (8), Cyberlimb Strength (9), Enhanced Agility (3), Enhanced Strength (2), Large Smuggling Compartment (Used), Smuggling Compartment (Used)
. . Flare Compensation (Alphaware)
. . Smartlink (Alphaware)
. . Synaptic Booster (2)
Gear:
. . Armor Jacket
. . Certified Credstick, Standard
. . Contacts (1) w/ Image Link
. . Datachip
. . Jack Stone w/ Fake License: Concealed Weapon (2), Fake License: Cyberware (2), Fake License: Gun (2), Fake SIN (2), (1 month) Squatter Lifestyle
. . Medkit (2)
. . Meta Link Commlink
. . Plastic Restraints x5
. . Standard Tags x10
. . Trauma Patch
Weapons:
. . Fichetti Security 600 [Light Pistol, Acc 8, DV 7P, AP –, SA, RC (1), 30 (c)] w/ Flashlight, Low-Light, Folding Stock, Laser Sight, (30x) Regular Ammo, Smartgun System, Internal
. . Ingram Smartgun X [SMG, Acc 6, DV 6S(e), AP -5, BF/FA, RC 2(3), 32 (c)] w/ Folding Stock, Gas-Vent System (2), Silencer/Suppressor, Smartgun System, Internal, (32x) Stick-n-Shock
. . Sword [Blade,Blade, Reach 1, Acc 6, DV 12P, AP -2]
Contacts:
Fixer (Connection 4, Loyalty 2)
Starting ¥: 2D6 x 40¥

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Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: Tai-Pan on <09-08-14/1758:42>
A thought on your choice of pistols, from the looks of things  you're rolling 9 dice, and thus averaging 3 hits, why not trade in some surplus ammo capacity and excess accuracy for a heavy pistol to get some additional damage and armor penetration?
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: Wakshaani on <09-08-14/1828:47>
Oddball question: Are you married to being an Ork? Because a human Street Sam can be pretty awesome...
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: Wakshaani on <09-08-14/2005:26>
I had an hour to kill, so, trying to keep close to your format...

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Hiro Takahasi
Attributes A, Resources B, Skills C, Race D, Magic E

METATYPE: Human
B 4(6), A 6(8), R 4(6), S 4(6), W 5, L 3, I 3, C 3, ESS , EDG 5

Condition Monitor (P/S):  10/11

Armor: 14 (16 with Helmet)

Limits: Physical 8, Mental 4, Social 4

Physical Initiative:  11+3d6

Active Skills:
Athletics Group 2, Blades (Swords) 7 (+2), Pistols 4, Sneaking 1, Throwing Weapons 1, Unarmed Combat 4, Pilot Ground Craft 1, Armorer 1, Computer 1, First Aid 1, Artisan: Calligraphy 1, Perception 1, Animal Handling 1, Etiquette (Corporate) 3 (5), Intimidation 4, Negotiation 1

Knowledge Skills:
Bushido 4, Famous Samurai 2, Poetry 2, Shiawase Megacorp 2, Business 1, Psychology 1

Languages:
Japanese (N), English (N)

Qualities:
Ambidextrous, Aptitude (Blades), Bilingual, Code of Honor (Bushido), Distinctive Style, Prejudiced (Minor, against Shiawase citizens)

Augmentations:
Bone Lacing (Aluminum), Datajack, Muscle Replacement (2) (Alpha), Wired Reflexes (2)

Gear:
Concealed holster, Quickdraw holster, Armor jacket, Helmet with flare compensation, lowlight vision, image link, and smartlink, Auctioneer business clothes, Renraku Sensei commlink (3), Fake SIN (3), Fake Licenses (3) for augmentations, gun permit, concealed carry permit, and large blades permit, Silver credstick, Armorer kit, Artisan: Calligraphy kit, Respirator (1), Ford Americar, Low Lifestyle (3 months pre-paid), concealed holster, quickdraw holster, one spare clip (light pistol), two spare clips (heavy pistol), 80 shots of standard ammo (light pistol), 90 shots of standard ammo (heavy pistol), 100 shots of APDS ammo (heavy pistol), 100 shots of Explosive ammo (heavy pistol)

Weapons:
Katana
Sword
Combat knife
Ares Predator V
Ares Lightfire 70

Contacts:
Fixer (Connection 4, Loyalty 2)
Street Samurai (Connection 2, Loyalty 4)
Street Doc (Connection 1, Loyalty 1)

Starting ¥: 3000 + (3d6*60)¥

******************

Hiro's a sword prodigy that was brought up in the Shiawase corporation as a true samurai, embracing the ideals of Bushido and the blade over all else. He served loyaly for years until his superior ordered him to do something that clashed with his personal honor. With great reluctance, he refused that order, then bailed on the corporation as a whole, unable to serve an honorless master any longer. On teh streets, his rigid code and corporate bearing make him an easy markletting peopl eknow at a glance what they're dealing with. (Of course, the downside is that he's easy to find. Fortunately he didn't break ties with Shiawase violently, but he *did* break ties and, someday, they'll come afte rthe debt he owes._

A few side notes.

His helmet is very stylized, a proper Japanese samurai kabuto with a mempo (faceplate), the entire thing stylized like an Oni. He only wears it when things get serious, as it's teh final piece of a samurai's armor. With it off, he tries to avoid fights when possible, but once it's donned, he's a merciless murder machine.

He's unusual in that he never got his eyes replaced. An artist at heart, he can't abide the notion of losing his natural vision. He's not a very good artist, having had little time in the past to practice, but now with more free time, he's starting to find time to enjoy himself. As his old sensei used to say, "Calligraphy is like swordplay. Once a stroke is made, it cannot be retracted. You must steady your hand and only strike when you know your aim is true.)

While ambidextrous, he rarely fights with Katana and Wakizashi (the sword), but instead fights with a Katana in his right hand and a pistol in his left, keeping him from having to swap between them in a fight. His relationship with Shiawase is complex and confusing, with an ingrained loyalty and love for the corp but a hatred for the lies, betrayal, and dishonorable behavior that he can now see where once he sheltered his eyes.

Hiro's picked up a handful of basic skills from being along side many a Mr Johnson as a guard, and now is having to learn Shadorunning skills, which grate at him. His belief in Bushido rubs against his practical need for stealth.
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: JmOz01 on <09-08-14/2054:21>
A thought on your choice of pistols, from the looks of things  you're rolling 9 dice, and thus averaging 3 hits, why not trade in some surplus ammo capacity and excess accuracy for a heavy pistol to get some additional damage and armor penetration?

Wanted it to fit into the armslide
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: Tai-Pan on <09-08-14/2151:32>
Now I am trying to pictute a 30 round mag in a useable location on a pistol up someone's sleeve.
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: JmOz01 on <09-08-14/2227:17>
Well it is actually in his cyber arm...With the smuggling compartment he can also store his SMG...to bad no way to store a sword...
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: Rythymhack on <09-09-14/0226:17>
There is, but it takes 2 combat turns to ready (one if you are wearing red longjohns with the trapdoor back with the wireless active).
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: JmOz01 on <09-09-14/0733:45>
He isn't that kinky...
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: Tarislar on <09-10-14/0000:30>
Couple Questions.

1.  How fixed are you on the race of Ork ?
I'm asking because if you want BIG TANK type then Troll is always an option.
Otherwise Human offers some better all around choices on the priority table as well.

2.  I would put back Code of Honor.  Bad Luck is well,  BAD.
Doesn't have to be Bushido.  Make it won't kill other Orks,  or Metas, or Innocents, etc etc.
Samurai doesn't have to be traditional Bushido, but it is about Honor & a Code, so its a good choice.


Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: Wakshaani on <09-10-14/0004:19>
I tossed a human up at teh end of the last page, but I don't think anyone saw it. :(

I rarely see a Troll sammy, however. They're both kinda lopsided builds that, when combined, just falter. *usually*.
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on <09-10-14/1155:27>
... Wakshaani, stop stealing Hawatari's background.  ;)
Title: Re: Help with basic Street Sammy
Post by: Wakshaani on <09-10-14/1443:55>
... Wakshaani, stop stealing Hawatari's background.  ;)

Hey hey hey! I'm a writer! It's not theft, it's an homage.  :P

(Now to figure out who the heck Hawatari is again.)