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Are all metahumans mutated Horrors?

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rfv855

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« on: <02-10-13/1617:49> »
There is that dragon creation story- about how one of children of Dark One come to untainted world, shed 9 tears, and the dragons were born from first tear, while metahuman races from the rest. Which practically makes dragons origin being a mutated Horrors.

However, when you look at it, there is no real difference between first tear that the dragons were born from, and the rest of the tears.

Which brings the question asked in title- are all metahuman races in Shadowrun/Earthdown basically a version of Horrors?

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« Reply #1 on: <02-10-13/1712:39> »
I wouldn`t trust a dragon to tell the truth to another dragon if it was the Dragon Tell The Truth Today For A Change Festival Day. I think anything dragons tell/let slip/leave lying about to be found by  the good with ketchup races is what they want them to know and not an iota more.
An Awful lot of people believe a lot of very strange things indeed for no valid reason I can see. They can`t all be right but it is quite likely they all can be very wrong.

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« Reply #2 on: <02-10-13/1901:01> »
Well, yes and no, Dave. About personal business, you're absolutely right. However, you got to take into account dragon culture. They are very big on passing down the traditions, laws, and history of dragonkind to the young in their entirety, which is why dragon eggs are given to a Great Dragon to raise, and the Great Dragon uses dragonspeech while the young dragons are still in the shell to start indoctrinating the dragons into dragon society. The whole reason everyone is pissed at Hestaby is because she is going against dragon tradition, afterall.

Also, the story as copied from the Earthdawn source I cited is from the Loremaster of the time, Vasdenjas, who had a fascination with the Young Races, and contributed several works to the Great Library of Throal. It also closely mirrored an account of the Great Hunter given in a tome about the Horrors by Icewing (aka Ghostwalker), so it is very likely that the account is accurate, as far as dragons know/believe.

That being said, it is still a creation story, the same as any other. Whether everything happened as the account goes or not is unknown.
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« Reply #3 on: <02-15-13/1855:21> »
Sounds like something I'd read in a Humanis pamphlet.....

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« Reply #4 on: <02-16-13/0948:38> »
Sounds like something I'd read in a Humanis pamphlet.....

Too erudite or educated for typical Humanis. Too many multi-syllabic words  ::)  8)

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« Reply #5 on: <02-16-13/1337:01> »
Too erudite or educated for typical Humanis. Too many multi-syllabic words  ::)  8)
There are some quite cultured and erudite Humanis Members that give the PoliClub a positive public front.

Look at Brackhaven.
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« Reply #6 on: <02-17-13/1227:32> »
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« Reply #7 on: <02-19-13/1457:23> »
Sounds like something I'd read in a Humanis pamphlet.....

Ditto...I could see making an argument for Infected being somehow related to Horror, but not metahumans. Unless, of course, you're a Brackhaven...although the idea of them knowing what Horrors is is...scary.
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« Reply #8 on: <02-19-13/1826:27> »
Character like Brackhaven are all the more scary when you see people IRL like William Lane Craig and realise that the truth stopped mattering such a long, long time ago and people will vote/support people saying what they want to hear.
An Awful lot of people believe a lot of very strange things indeed for no valid reason I can see. They can`t all be right but it is quite likely they all can be very wrong.

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« Reply #9 on: <02-22-13/1948:22> »
On the side note, baseline humans are also considered metahumans in Shadowrun- the base and most common variations, with same origins as the other variations.

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« Reply #10 on: <02-23-13/1941:06> »
Sounds like something I'd read in a Humanis pamphlet.....
In this case "metahumans" would refer to all metatypes, norms included ;)

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« Reply #11 on: <02-23-13/2041:33> »
On the side note, baseline humans are also considered metahumans in Shadowrun- the base and most common variations, with same origins as the other variations.
Well, that makes sense.  Humans are the worst of the lot for Metahumans!  ;D
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