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Could a Rigger Build an Android ?

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« Reply #15 on: <05-12-12/2207:02> »
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« Reply #17 on: <05-12-12/2344:31> »
So GW found Big D and brought him back to earth?
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« Reply #18 on: <05-13-12/0920:27> »
So GW found Big D and brought him back to earth?
Don't see why he would...  Not like Dunkie has a body any longer...  Also...  *Points at the ravening Horrors that Dunkie's holding back*
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« Reply #19 on: <05-13-12/1326:45> »
Something about Alamise and a fruitcake, he was talking crazy.
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« Reply #20 on: <05-13-12/1349:59> »
Ok, this has got me thinking about the AI baddie in my current campaign... Due to what it is and where, resources are not an overriding issue... But my question is:

What rules would you follow to build the body? Treat it as a standard drone using cyber enhancements and what-not? Go forward as if a cyber zombie using the atomo athromorph frame as a starting point?

Given the state of bioware technologies in shadowrun it should be possible to look also identical to a human (or Ork, elf, etc) So how would a person spot it as non-human other than astrally?
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Would it HAVE an aura (a weak one??)? If it has emotions and a personality, would it not be alive and project that astrally?? Or for all of that, is it still a construct and the essence of humanity that makes us project an aura still missing from it?

(boy I hate existential theory!!)
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« Reply #21 on: <05-13-12/1930:20> »
How you construct it depends on its purpose. If you want this thing to be a boss fight for N characters with K karma apiece, I'd start it as a cyberzombie, since those are intentionally overpowered to begin with. If you want to play it more realistically, then yeah, I'd probably build it up as a drone.

I'd presume movement would be an easy way to pick it out of a crowd. Human motion is very intricate with all sorts of subtleties that are a pain to simulate; of course, if you want to eliminate this, invoke the Sufficiently Advanced Pilot clause and say it can handle that much processing or whatever.

Aura and essence has to do with being a living creature and not necessarily having a consciousness, from what I understand. (Do coma patients have auras?) There are some species of bacteria that are dual-natured, IIRC (which an AI with enough resources and a suitably sadistic DM could, in theory, load its shell with to disguise it even further, even if a closer examination would probably reveal "hey that's a pile of bacteria not an actual person's aura). So, basically, I'd say no, it wouldn't have an aura or essence because it's an artificial creature, even though it's sentient.

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« Reply #22 on: <05-13-12/2223:57> »
Cool, thanks...

Not a 'boss fight' per say, more like a series of fights with more and more advanced models.
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« Reply #23 on: <05-14-12/0347:38> »
For figuring out android stats, one way would be to start with the drone in Arsenal that's capable of passing for a human (to at least casual inspection), and modifying as needed.

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« Reply #24 on: <05-16-12/0828:39> »
Well if you want to make it realistic, why not just use the established rules?  ;)

You can have realistic cyberlimbs. There is a listed limb for every part of the human body. So you load the home-node into the torso, and a fancy-shmancy 'link into the head for usefulness and handling the piloting algorithms and stuff, and bam. You have a by default 'real' human, at least as real as many a runner out there. As you improve the model, since essence isn't an issue, you can just slap in more and more powerful mods and other 'ware.

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« Reply #25 on: <05-16-12/1256:12> »
I wanted to know could a Rigger Build an Android for a AI to inhabit so it has physical form ?

Got the Idea after watching
Project KARA
http://youtu.be/xM2Rkqvd5uY

Would be a Interesting story arch to have the team have to go after a Rigger who built a Android for his AI Lover

With your permission (youv found it first :)) link reposted here:
http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=6033.0