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Women in Front Line Combat Roles in the Australian Defence Force

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« Reply #45 on: <10-03-11/1643:22> »
What are the current Physical requirements?

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« Reply #46 on: <10-03-11/1748:52> »
In the US Army, it's pushups, situps, and 2 mile run. The numbers you need decrease as you get older, and they're lower for women than for men.  A LOT lower on pushups, sorta lower on situps, between those for the run.

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« Reply #47 on: <10-03-11/1751:59> »
In the US Army, it's pushups, situps, and 2 mile run. The numbers you need decrease as you get older, and they're lower for women than for men.  A LOT lower on pushups, sorta lower on situps, between those for the run.

Really? That seems a touch - odd. I can see how they might want something simple to assess fitness levels of applicants to the US Army, but as an ongoing benchmark that would be less than ideal.

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« Reply #48 on: <10-03-11/1754:00> »
ah, found the numbers. Male 18 year old minimum: 42 pushups, 53 situps, 15:54 2 mile run. Female 18 year old minimums: 19 pushups (no, not a typo), 53 situps, 18:54 2 mile run.

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« Reply #49 on: <10-03-11/1806:32> »
ah, found the numbers. Male 18 year old minimum: 42 pushups, 53 situps, 15:54 2 mile run. Female 18 year old minimums: 19 pushups (no, not a typo), 53 situps, 18:54 2 mile run.

That's a big drop in numbers.

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« Reply #50 on: <10-03-11/1814:44> »
ah, found the numbers. Male 18 year old minimum: 42 pushups, 53 situps, 15:54 2 mile run. Female 18 year old minimums: 19 pushups (no, not a typo), 53 situps, 18:54 2 mile run.

That's a big drop in numbers.

Yeah, that's why I say if women want to be in combat MOS positions, they need to pass the Male PT test.  It is a very physical job.
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« Reply #51 on: <10-03-11/1824:27> »
ah, found the numbers. Male 18 year old minimum: 42 pushups, 53 situps, 15:54 2 mile run. Female 18 year old minimums: 19 pushups (no, not a typo), 53 situps, 18:54 2 mile run.

That's a big drop in numbers.

Yeah, that's why I say if women want to be in combat MOS positions, they need to pass the Male PT test.  It is a very physical job.
Except as I also noted, it's a poor test for what it's supposed to be testing. and yes, I've been there.

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« Reply #52 on: <10-03-11/1825:28> »
ah, found the numbers. Male 18 year old minimum: 42 pushups, 53 situps, 15:54 2 mile run. Female 18 year old minimums: 19 pushups (no, not a typo), 53 situps, 18:54 2 mile run.

That's a big drop in numbers.

Yeah, that's why I say if women want to be in combat MOS positions, they need to pass the Male PT test.  It is a very physical job.

I know that's how they plan to do things in the ADF. And, so far, they are claiming that they won't lower the standards/requirements...

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« Reply #53 on: <10-03-11/1827:39> »
ah, found the numbers. Male 18 year old minimum: 42 pushups, 53 situps, 15:54 2 mile run. Female 18 year old minimums: 19 pushups (no, not a typo), 53 situps, 18:54 2 mile run.

That's a big drop in numbers.

Yeah, that's why I say if women want to be in combat MOS positions, they need to pass the Male PT test.  It is a very physical job.
Except as I also noted, it's a poor test for what it's supposed to be testing. and yes, I've been there.

From what I understand of the ADF, they have full-pack marches and the like that are apparently real killers - not only do a high proportion of females fail, but a significant proportion of males fail, as well. I think the term they throw around is that they get "medically discharged".

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« Reply #54 on: <10-03-11/1922:29> »
18 minute mile? That gives you like 1 lap to walk >.> holy cow!

As for the push up's I must admit to feeling quite inadequet for the push ups section. :P Once I get to 15 it starts to become hard. 25 is about when i want to give up. (I could probably push a few more out but you know the MIND gives up before the BODY does... or so i'm told)
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« Reply #55 on: <10-03-11/1943:57> »
18 minute mile? That gives you like 1 lap to walk >.> holy cow!

That's for 2 miles.

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« Reply #56 on: <10-03-11/1949:52> »
18 minute mile? That gives you like 1 lap to walk >.> holy cow!

That's for 2 miles.

ok that makes it much better then xD. Lol makes me feel worse is I have generally a 10-12 minute mile. XD Of course I've never jogged the whole time either so. XD
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« Reply #57 on: <10-03-11/1953:17> »
18 minute mile? That gives you like 1 lap to walk >.> holy cow!

That's for 2 miles.

ok that makes it much better then xD. Lol makes me feel worse is I have generally a 10-12 minute mile. XD Of course I've never jogged the whole time either so. XD

Well, if they ever bring back conscription, then you'll be safe in the knowledge that you aren't fit enough for a combat role. ;)

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« Reply #58 on: <10-03-11/2103:23> »
I'm content that I'm not even fit enough for a clerical role if there's a draft.  :P
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« Reply #59 on: <10-03-11/2106:43> »
I'm content that I'm not even fit enough for a clerical role if there's a draft.  :P

Physically, or otherwise? ;)