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[SR5] Rigger jumped in firing his vehicule weapons
忍:
--- Quote from: ClaytonCross on ---Question 2) is - does is control rig bonus applies to the limit - thus making the test (Gunnery + Logic) [Accuracy + Control Rig Level].
- Gunnery +rig bonus(SR5 p451) +2 hotsim +logic [Accuracy + rig bonus(SR5 p266)]
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Logic + Gunnery + Control Rig Rating + 2 for hotsim [Accuracy + Control Rig Rating]
Is this what you mean? I've rewritten for improved readability.
Aaron:
I think if you're firing via control rig and in hot sim, you'd get the bonus. Control Device is, after all, a Matrix Action.
If you're firing the weapon without Sensor targeting, your dice pool would be (Gunnery + Agility + 2) and your limit would be [Accuracy + Control Rig rating].
If you're firing with Sensor targeting, your dice pool would be (Gunnery + Logic + 2) and your limit would be [Sensor + Control Rig rating].
Tym Jalynsfein:
--- Quote from: Aaron on ---I think if you're firing via control rig and in hot sim, you'd get the bonus. Control Device is, after all, a Matrix Action.
If you're firing the weapon without Sensor targeting, your dice pool would be (Gunnery + Agility + 2) and your limit would be [Accuracy + Control Rig rating].
If you're firing with Sensor targeting, your dice pool would be (Gunnery + Logic + 2) and your limit would be [Sensor + Control Rig rating].
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In my opinion, if you are jumped into the Vehicle/Drone, and are firing the weapon without sensor targeting, then you are firing blind and will be using the rules for firing blind. The Sensors are, after all, how you perceive when jumped in. Sensor targeting will of course require the use of your Logic Attribute. If you are behind the weapon itself and are using Mk 1 Eyeballs, then you are manually firing the weapon and would use your Standard Attack Rolls (Using Agility). :) 8)
ClaytonCross:
--- Quote from: 忍 on ---
--- Quote from: ClaytonCross on ---Question 2) is - does is control rig bonus applies to the limit - thus making the test (Gunnery + Logic) [Accuracy + Control Rig Level].
Gunnery +rig bonus(SR5 p451) +2 hotsim +logic [Accuracy + rig bonus(SR5 p266)]
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Logic + Gunnery + Control Rig Rating + 2 for hotsim [Accuracy + Control Rig Rating]
Is this what you mean? I've rewritten for improved readability.
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Yes, that is correct.
ClaytonCross:
--- Quote from: Aaron on ---I think if you're firing via control rig and in hot sim, you'd get the bonus. Control Device is, after all, a Matrix Action.
If you're firing the weapon without Sensor targeting, your dice pool would be (Gunnery + Agility + 2) and your limit would be [Accuracy + Control Rig rating].
If you're firing with Sensor targeting, your dice pool would be (Gunnery + Logic + 2) and your limit would be [Sensor + Control Rig rating].
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1.Sensor targeting is not about using the sensors, you always use the sensors when gunning and rigging. Its about letting the drone auto control weapons. (Think of it a Golden Eye auto aim, but crappy) So in this case your not just talking sensor quality but computer recognition and over ride. Its usually better to aim your self, but if you have a crappy gun you can use it to "auto-aim" its low accuracy. That is the intent of Sensor targeting. Not to cripple good weapons.
2.Gunnery while jumped in is ALWAYS a matrix action and logic.
3.Gunnery using remote is ALWAYS logic.
4.Gunnery with hands on the gun is agility.
My point is if you jumped in you get the rig bonus to pool and limit. If your not jumped in you don't. Its already complicated enough that I use a spread sheet with six rows for basic gunnery with my rigger. I don't need it more complicated.lol
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