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MWillner

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« on: <05-24-14/1540:56> »
In the stat block for Imaginary Annie Goldsmith, she has the quality "Qingong 2".

I can't find any reference to this.

Any ideas?


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« Reply #1 on: <05-24-14/1607:27> »
I think it's a typo for Qigong. It's a Chinese meditative practice with some limited martial applications.
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« Reply #2 on: <05-24-14/1709:06> »
Ok.

Now what does the Adept power Qigong 2 do?

It is not in the book either. (Nor are either of them in Run and Gun).

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« Reply #3 on: <05-24-14/1732:57> »
Qigong was supposed to be the term for Light Body, per a conversation that I had with Giabraltar (he's the one who helped write that section).
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« Reply #4 on: <05-26-14/1350:01> »
Qi is sometimes spelled by westerners "Chi" is it not?
Are Qi and Chi two spellings of the same idea?
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« Reply #5 on: <05-26-14/1355:53> »
Yep! It's also, philosophically, the same thing as SR's mana.
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« Reply #6 on: <05-26-14/1547:43> »
Yep! It's also, philosophically, the same thing as SR's mana.

And perhaps literally the same thing in Shadowrun.  That would make "Qi Focus" seem a bit redundant or perhaps vague, but then it is one of the most flexible foci...
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« Reply #7 on: <05-26-14/1713:43> »
Qi is sometimes spelled by westerners "Chi" is it not?
Are Qi and Chi two spellings of the same idea?
For the record, the difference in spellings comes from two separate "standardized" ways of converting Chinese phonetics into English text.
The older Wade-Giles pinyin method appropriately lists the word as ch'i, which due to translations, transcriptions and simplifications transforms it incorrectly into chi.  Hanyu pinyin, the currently more used alphabet, has the same sound listed as qi in order to avoid confusion with the actual "ch" sound.

Incidentally, this is why you can see both the name Peking, and the name Beijing, and have no idea that they actually are the same place (and are in fact pronounced the same.)

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« Reply #8 on: <05-26-14/1724:22> »
Qi is sometimes spelled by westerners "Chi" is it not?
Are Qi and Chi two spellings of the same idea?
For the record, the difference in spellings comes from two separate "standardized" ways of converting Chinese phonetics into English text.
The older Wade-Giles pinyin method appropriately lists the word as ch'i, which due to translations, transcriptions and simplifications transforms it incorrectly into chi.  Hanyu pinyin, the currently more used alphabet, has the same sound listed as qi in order to avoid confusion with the actual "ch" sound.

Incidentally, this is why you can see both the name Peking, and the name Beijing, and have no idea that they actually are the same place (and are in fact pronounced the same.)
Is this why i sometimes also see Qi spelled "ki"?
or are those different things?
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« Reply #9 on: <05-26-14/1730:03> »
Ki is the Japanese term for it.  Different language, different pronunciation, same word and generally same concept.

Edit:  Ki can also be used in Korean to represent the same concept, though sometimes Anglicized as gi, which shouldn't be confused with the Japanese gi which is a martial artist's outfit.   Aren't related languages awesomely confusing?
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« Reply #10 on: <05-26-14/1738:35> »
I think I've seen shows/manga or played roleplaying games where "ki" is more of a physical thing and "chi" more of a mental thing: so "ki" would be punching holes in walls, and "chi" would be levitating and stuff. Can't remember where, though.

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« Reply #11 on: <05-26-14/1741:37> »
I think I've seen shows/manga or played roleplaying games where "ki" is more of a physical thing and "chi" more of a mental thing: so "ki" would be punching holes in walls, and "chi" would be levitating and stuff. Can't remember where, though.

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