[Sichr]

It occurs to me that the chainmail shirt listed in the rules, while mostly inferior in every other way to pretty much any modern armor, should provide considerable protection versus electrical attacks.




-k

It's like wearing a faraday cage!

It realy is not the same. Farraday cage is ie closed microwave owen. Microvawe oven with opened doors is not faraday cage. see the difference?

[Morg]

maybe you could go Str/2+2P*e  -1AP reach 1 and get rid of the rest of the entry then it's more like a gladiatorial weapon, not a big market for it however

[JustADude]

It occurs to me that the chainmail shirt listed in the rules, while mostly inferior in every other way to pretty much any modern armor, should provide considerable protection versus electrical attacks.

Also can't forget, that unlike the other electrical attacks, Stick-n-Shock does not reference the page describing the additional effects, and thus does not have them tacked on.

It's Electrical damage, A4BG. It has the little (e) on the damage code and everything.

Further reference isn't required.

[Mirikon]

It occurs to me that the chainmail shirt listed in the rules, while mostly inferior in every other way to pretty much any modern armor, should provide considerable protection versus electrical attacks.

Also can't forget, that unlike the other electrical attacks, Stick-n-Shock does not reference the page describing the additional effects, and thus does not have them tacked on.

It's Electrical damage, A4BG. It has the little (e) on the damage code and everything.

Further reference isn't required.

Agreed. Dealing electrical damage automatically has the effect described under electrical damage.

[All4BigGuns]

Then Firewall would have to be limited by System and Response. You can't say that Firewall doesn't have that normal rating restriction, but make the claim that SnS is "broken" because it supposedly has something the description doesn't say it has. Choose one or the other. Can't have it both ways.

[Sichr]

Stick-n-Shock 6S(e) –half Impact 5R 80¥

Damage Value (DV): A weapon’s Damage Value represents the
amount of damage it causes when it hits a target. Damage Values
consist of a number (the boxes of damage inflicted) and a letter
indicating the type of damage caused: P for Physical, S for Stun.
See Damage, p. 162.
A notation of (f) following the DV means that the weapon’s
damage and AP are precalculated for flechette ammunition
(p. 323). A notation of (e) indicates the weapon inflicts Electricity
damage (p. 163).

WTF???

[All4BigGuns]

Again, look at all the descriptions of the other electrical weapons/attacks. All but the ammunition reference the page in the description, and despite what some may claim, it is the same logic used in the claims that Firewall isn't limited by Response.

[Sichr]

 

[Sichr]

Illiterate
Bonus: 10 BP
Despite the omnipresence of iconography, voice recognition
and talking AROs in communications, the written word is still a
useful tool for conveying nuanced and detailed information. While
many people in the Sixth World are barely literate, an Illiterate character
never learned to read at all (maybe she grew up on the streets, or
in an isolated rural or wilderness setting). These characters must rely
on other characters or technology to translate written information
for them. Illiterate characters can use commlink software in conjunction
with built-in scanners or cameras to translate written words to
sound. They can also learn to use computer programs that rely on
icons rather than written commands and instructions; however, such
characters receive a –4 dice pool modifier to all computer-related
tests and cannot have a Computer Skill higher than 1.
Finally, Illiterate characters may not take any Academic,
Professional, or Interest Knowledge skills that require reading,
either during character creation or in play (until the quality is
bought off with Karma).

Don`t worry. It only takes 50 Karma points to get rid of it

Well I guess once you become Troll, you cannot change back whatever you do...

[Reaver]

Then Firewall would have to be limited by System and Response. You can't say that Firewall doesn't have that normal rating restriction, but make the claim that SnS is "broken" because it supposedly has something the description doesn't say it has. Choose one or the other. Can't have it both ways.

Um....
pg 221 SR 4e main book....

"MATRIX ATTRIBUTES: Firewall, Response, Signal, And System. Two the the Matrix Attributes are based on the hardware in the device, and the other two are software running on that hardware. "

As written, Firewall would be a limited by System and/or Response, just in the same way that your character's Agility is limited by his Willpower or Body. (Which they are NOT!)
here's a way to look at those attributes.

Firewall = Willpower/body*  (resists attacks that "affect the mind" IE: sleezing, spoofing, direct damage)
Response = Agility/reaction (how fast the response to stimuli, IE: loading a program,
Signal = Perception/Charisma (how to you interact with your environment, IE: can you access the matrix and nodes from accoss the city, or do you have to rub up against a person to see there profile)
System = Body/Willpower (how much damage you can take, and how you resist that damage)

it is from those four attributes that control of the matrix is given, percieved, used, and combatted. They are not limited by each other, THEY impose limits on everything in the matrix. Much like your character's Attributes limit  what you character can do.

[All4BigGuns]

I've dropped the whole thing because it has become quite obvious that people will stick with their belief on the matter.