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« Reply #15 on: <02-02-12/2128:20> »
Really depends on the weight of the pistol its attached to. If its a mostly plastic automatic like modern glocks are then it would be horrendous, but if it were an all metal gun it shouldn't be too bad.

My grandpa used to have an old WW2 flare gun that had been modified to fire a 12 guage shell. It weighed considerably less than my .357 but the recoil on it wasn't much worse. At most, I'd say a +1 recoil modifier, but I wouldn't really even go that far since the Hatamoto II doesn't bother with it.

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« Reply #16 on: <02-26-12/1006:40> »
sounds like a great way to break your wrist, unless your using .410 rounds.
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« Reply #17 on: <03-17-12/2235:14> »
Here in the real world, the Confederate States of America issued around three thousand "pistols with underbarrel shotguns" to its cavalrymen and a few officers. The LeMat Revolver was a nine shot cap & ball black powder weapon, in .42 Ball, that had a single-shot 16 guage shotgun built in. I've had the pleasure of playing with a modern reproduction, albeit made with modern smokeless powder and calibers (specifically 20ga shotgun / .44 magnum) and it was a fine weapon, the handgun rounds were as controllable as any similar revolver when fired with one hand (actually, a little gentler with the extra weight and long cavalryman's barrel). The shotgun kicked quite a bit and I wasn't brave enough to try it one handed, but the weapon's owner showed me that it was quite possible if you knew what you were doing.

Mechanically, a Ruger Warhawk or Colt Deputy with an underbarrel Hachimoto would be the perfect way to represent the gun in SR4.
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« Reply #18 on: <03-17-12/2253:15> »
I want a double barrel version of the Remington room-sweeper

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« Reply #19 on: <03-17-12/2354:57> »
 ;D

i want the double barrel Hachimoto (or any heavy pistol), styled something like this
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« Reply #20 on: <03-18-12/0759:56> »
I want a double barrel version of the Remington room-sweeper

Add a burst fire modification to the Remington Roomsweeper, see if your GM will allow you to remove its semiauto mode. Done.

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i want the double barrel Hachimoto (or any heavy pistol), styled something like this
<<insert photoshop>>

Because it would be so much fun clearing a Type I malfunction and a Type II malfunction at the same time... But why stop at two barrels when you can have the P333AT from Kel-Tec!
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« Reply #21 on: <03-18-12/0804:33> »
Because it would be so much fun clearing a Type I malfunction and a Type II malfunction at the same time... But why stop at two barrels when you can have the P333AT from Kel-Tec!

From their quote "...just as reliable as our other guns on the market..." I take it that Kel-Tec guns are crap?
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« Reply #22 on: <03-18-12/0846:59> »
Kel-Tec guns are, well... Kel-Tec is like the Hyundai of the gun world. They're a budget-priced brand, which means you get budget-priced quality control, fit and finish, and so forth. Mind you, Kel-Tec of 2012 is a much bigger company and has much better quality than Kel-Tec of 1992. But gun folks have long memories... we're still mocking HK for a catalog they published in the late `90s were the ammunition was loaded into the magazine backward, many of us are still miffed at Smith & Wesson for the trigger locks of the `90s, and... well... our worship of John Moses Browning (Praise Be Unto Him!) is kinda creepy.

I own an early production run P3AT, bought it used (with less than 50 rounds through it for 60% of retail!), and it had some failure to feed problems during my break in of it. The pistol was still under warranty, even though I wasn't the original owner, they fixed it for me pretty quick. It's very reliable and my daily carry.  I've also been lusting after a KSG shotgun, which has been getting excellent reviews and might just be the most Shadowrun-y gun I've ever come across in real life.

Edit to Add: The RFB is also a very neat gun. Very hard to find though, massive backorder even years after it was released.
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« Reply #23 on: <03-18-12/0954:37> »
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I take it that Kel-Tec guns are crap?
Na, they just aren't great guns. If you want to see complete crap quality look no further than Hi-Point.

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« Reply #24 on: <03-18-12/1146:47> »
I have to stop reading the forums as soon as I woke up, Ajax.

I was wondering where the hell you found a PIAT!
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« Reply #25 on: <03-18-12/1240:51> »
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I take it that Kel-Tec guns are crap?
Na, they just aren't great guns. If you want to see complete crap quality look no further than Hi-Point.
Yeah.  When a semi-auto 9mm runs like $150 or so, you know you're getting some quality issues.  ;)

On the other hand, I've continued to hear nothing but good reviews of their carbines, for the money.  I've never really heard anyone say anything positive about their actual pistols, but those carbines of theirs are -- by all accounts -- pretty solid for the cash.  I know lots of guys who keep 'em as a trunk gun.

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« Reply #26 on: <03-18-12/1338:24> »
;D

i want the double barrel Hachimoto (or any heavy pistol), styled something like this
<<insert photoshop>>
  *except it's not a photoshop.*

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2012/03/09/its-real-the-double-barrel-arsenal-1911/
Carpe Noctem (seize the night)
Carpe per Diem (seize the pay), Carpe Dentum (seize the teeth), Carpe Denim (seize the pants)
Carpe Panem (seize the bread/capital)

no, i won't "just get over it."

NERPS!! for idiocy! NERPS!! for the minty fresh feeling! NERPS!! for gods! NERPS!! for guard duty!