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Ryushiroi

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« on: <10-05-11/1642:50> »
Having just been introduced to Shadowrun recently, and having read a variety of sourcebooks, something seems to be missing in the Denver details.

Since the Front Range Free Zone is supposed to be demilitarized, and said zone includes Colorado Springs, what happened to Cheyenne Mountain?

You know the place shown in War Games (and also Stargate).

shotofentropy

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« Reply #1 on: <10-07-11/1753:18> »
It was demilitarized.

[EDIT] Sorry, my agent has a problem

Athenor

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« Reply #2 on: <10-07-11/1944:40> »
I have the Denver box set, so give me a little bit to check, but if memory serves me right the military was kicked out.

Rumor has it, I think, that the Denver Data Haven is hosted on the leftover computer equipment.

Edit: My bad, that was the Air Force Academy. The details of Cheyanne are in the GM book. I'm looking for current events now. Well, current as of 2055-8.

Final edit: Bah. The writing of the time of the Denver box set does this massive, open-ended thing where exactly what is going on is left extremely vague. And this is the GM's book, no less! Last record was that Pueblo did get the place, called the Hole, but then the UCAS government blew the facility up and buried it. They claimed it was rogue soldiers acting without orders. The explosions were a lot smaller than they should have been, though, and rumors that parts of the facility still exist are out there. There's also rumors of some kind of astral barrier blocking an underwater stream, though these aren't confirmed.
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Ryushiroi

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« Reply #3 on: <10-07-11/2008:08> »
Darn... Well at least that's a start...

Maybe something'll be in Spy Games.

Thanks for looking.

Athenor

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« Reply #4 on: <10-07-11/2043:38> »
Darn... Well at least that's a start...

Maybe something'll be in Spy Games.

Thanks for looking.

No problem. I am still checking, though. Year of the Comet deals more with Ghostwalker's coming to Denver, and Shadows of North America's Denver chapter/Peublo section only mentions the Academy, due to the Nexus. Runner Havens, Feral Cities, and Corporate Enclaves all don't have sections on Denver, although I am admittedly just skimming their table of contents. My next guess after those would be 6th World Almanac (which I don't own yet).
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« Reply #5 on: <10-07-11/2326:13> »
When the USG left the Denver area and Cheyenne Mountain, they set the place to implode.  Apparently, not all of it did -- but nobody's been able to get inside to find out what the hell went on.  In the Denver boxed set, it is left up to the GM what the results are/were:

  • Option A: The guesstimate on how the shockwaves would happen were wrong; the place is just blown, and the issues of astrally projecting through the mountain have to do with Cheyenne Mountain being a holy site/place of power for various tribes in the past, and nothing to do with NORAD.
  • Option B: The blast messed up, and the US military have silent conniptions every time they think about it.  Pueblo drove a new shaft into the mountain, and they're using it as a secure bunker for ... other reasons than nuclear deterrence.
  • Option C: The blast messed up, and Pueblo was NOT able to drive another shaft -- beyond their capabilities, especially since they had other issues to deal with.  The bunker complex is still down there, and may well be useable, but nobody can get to it -- not physically, and not astrally.  Somehow, the inside of the mountain seems to serve as a mystical barrier, and those who hit it come back with their minds a bit scrambled, if they come back at all.  Unfortunately, nobody knows who's in control down there, how they got in, how they're getting out, and what they're doing with it.
For each option A you pick, you get 0 points; for each B, 1 point.  For each C you choose, rack up 3 points, and after adding everything up, you wind up with your Free Zone rating:
  • 0-20: Denver's a nice place to vacation.
  • 21-50: The Chamber of Commerce should issue warnings.
  • 51-80: This place makes Seattle look tame.
  • 81-96: Well, go to it -- but we don't want to play in your campaign.
I don't recall what I'd set up, but I think I was somewhere around the 80 point mark ...
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« Reply #6 on: <10-08-11/1245:33> »
You would think that "strange magical phenomenon" would result in alert status by that day and age, send in the magical threat assessment team with heavy backup and fully investigate why there's a barrier/field/weird effect going on. Instead of, y'know, just kinda leaving it alone and dismissing it as unimportant.



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« Reply #7 on: <10-08-11/1320:54> »
You would think that "strange magical phenomenon" would result in alert status by that day and age, send in the magical threat assessment team with heavy backup and fully investigate why there's a barrier/field/weird effect going on. Instead of, y'know, just kinda leaving it alone and dismissing it as unimportant.



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Eh. Other than those 3 options, the book really doesn't say what the respective governments did or didn't do. The actual text leaves it up as a rumor. This is pretty common across all of the Denver book, due to the "3 option" style -- things don't always make sense.