[bigity]

Luckily as a former motorcycle, the heat signature is through the roof and it will be easy for every nut with a SAM to shoot ya down if it came to dealing with this vehicle

[Barskor]

They would have to be a nut to spend 750 too 1,000 plus to randomly shoot down one of a dozen aircraft in an area just for giggles.

[kirk]

They would have to be a nut to spend 750 too 1,000 plus to randomly shoot down one of a dozen aircraft in an area just for giggles.

Well, that depends on the situation, now doesn't it?

If you're flying over Aztechnology airspace and they send an air control emergency notice - that is, "All aircraft in local airspace: identify yourself and allow ground control rigging access, or be shot down," what're you gonna do? Give'm control, or risk being shot down?

[bigity]

Or they can do a visual inspection.

Hey Bob.
Yea.
Do we have any motorcycles with ballons attached to make them float?
Drek no.
That's the one to shoot down.

[Barskor]

They would have to be a nut to spend 750 too 1,000 plus to randomly shoot down one of a dozen aircraft in an area just for giggles.

Well, that depends on the situation, now doesn't it?

If you're flying over Aztechnology airspace and they send an air control emergency notice - that is, "All aircraft in local airspace: identify yourself and allow ground control rigging access, or be shot down," what're you gonna do? Give'm control, or risk being shot down?

As there are Maps of such air space combined with autopilot to avoid such blunders that is an unlikly situation.

Or they can do a visual inspection.

Hey Bob.
Yea.
Do we have any motorcycles with ballons attached to make them float?
Drek no.
That's the one to shoot down.

Haahaa yah because Motercycle wheels are so important for proper flight

[kirk]

They would have to be a nut to spend 750 too 1,000 plus to randomly shoot down one of a dozen aircraft in an area just for giggles.

Well, that depends on the situation, now doesn't it?

If you're flying over Aztechnology airspace and they send an air control emergency notice - that is, "All aircraft in local airspace: identify yourself and allow ground control rigging access, or be shot down," what're you gonna do? Give'm control, or risk being shot down?

As there are Maps of such air space combined with autopilot to avoid such blunders that is an unlikly situation.

Well, yes there are. But if someone's thinking of shooting you it's because you did a run, probably into someone's airspace. And if we're talking about this at all we're talking about you involving your flying motorcycle.

If it's not contested airspace you don't need to have all that stealthy stuff. If you need that stealthy stuff then it's contested airspace.

[Barskor]

With the range of the gun on board and the Hemdol missles in the drone wrack  I don't need to have the tower enter restricted airspace at all. Same for the Motercycle   what the point of have a rifle that can shoot over a mile if you don't use it at range?

[kirk]

Barskor,

Have you noticed that all your arguments are "I play smart and the bad guy plays stupid?"

Your runners are in the corp territory. How deep? Well, if you're thinking they'll need a vehicle to get out they're not on the border.  So your choices are stay WAY outside my airspace and use your heimdalls, or come inside my airspace and use your rifle.

If you're in my airspace and my guys start taking overhead fire, I WILL institute air control.

If you're outside my airspace, your drones get tracked. I now have a very narrow window in which to look. Your protection is not perfect. You're a balloon with a motorcycle underneath - with a lot of stealth and moving faster than any other balloon in the sky.

I keep saying this about your designs. They're distinctive.

One of the rules of the battlefield is shoot the different thing first. I tend to carry that as a general principle. If it's different but here it's important and killing it matters.

You are obvious. You are distinctive. I might shoot you down on the principle of "most likely target" and pay the fines in court.  Or I might send my air control vehicles up to take a real hard look at the target airspace to see what's there, and shoot you if you fire a second burst.

[kirk]

Let me be plainer about this.

You asked who'd shoot down a bunch of aircraft on the chance of getting the right one? Bad question. I see ten aircraft. Nine are normal, everyday, standard craft -- helicopters, the LTA bus for executive commuters, maybe a regional commuter fixed wing.

And then there's that one which is trying to hide. It's turned off the IFF and transponder, it's masking its signal, it's stealthed, and even though ti's a balloon it's moving as fast as some helicopters.

I don't have ten targets. I have one. If you go down and I still take fire, well, I goofed. I'll pay the court fine. (or rather my company will, and "the individual who made that mistake was lost in the firefight, your honor.")

[Barskor]

And you tend to play bad guys as omnicent or all knowing And then there's that one which is trying to hide. It's turned off the IFF and transponder, it's masking its signal, it's stealthed, and even though ti's a balloon it's moving as fast as some helicopters. Dam they cracked all that how fast seconds or minuets? And why would I need to redline the engins all the time?
 and if my team is miles into corp teritory holy drek sounds like a major run and if i have to risk a noneliving not me asset i'll lite the fuse myself.

I like distictive and  I like to hide it (in plane sight or Cammoed) when running a risk. Allways taking just off the shelf running gear is boring safer vs tracking mayby  there are options in the books for a reasionthey are not all traps for newbies.

[bigity]

Nobody is saying it's wrong per se, just that it's very much a unique table style, like pink mohawk squared.

[Barskor]

So style if it has substance and is effective at a/many tasks why not ?
If the Coprs use it to track me means  that they can identife the jobs i have done  As long as they can't put my  face or other id to me they can keep score all they like.
Any how people who push sota are valuable to the mega's I might be dead or stuck with a crainial bomb and tracking device Npc village here we come. or self extraction run!

[bigity]

I can't really make out what you are saying with your ..typing style.

I'm saying don't expect that kind of 'style' work work at most tables.

[kirk]

And you tend to play bad guys as omnicent or all knowing And then there's that one which is trying to hide. It's turned off the IFF and transponder, it's masking its signal, it's stealthed, and even though ti's a balloon it's moving as fast as some helicopters. Dam they cracked all that how fast seconds or minuets? And why would I need to redline the engins all the time?
 and if my team is miles into corp teritory holy drek sounds like a major run and if i have to risk a noneliving not me asset i'll lite the fuse myself.

I like distictive and  I like to hide it (in plane sight or Cammoed) when running a risk. Allways taking just off the shelf running gear is boring safer vs tracking mayby  there are options in the books for a reasionthey are not all traps for newbies.

heh - if they were omniscient they'd blow you out of the sky before you got to shoot.

Tell you what. run the numbers for the other aircraft in the air with you and ground control - the little drone/sensor package that tries to run its little airfield - and the air watchers who are watching for air strikes on their facilities. Most of them will be R3, some will be R4. They're using radar. And with the exception of the security forces they'll be running them pretty much full time.

What you'll find is they're tossing 3 to 5 dice to spot your large object with threshold 1. They'll have that dice pool because chameleon coating doesn't matter to radar, and neither does the night. The only thing you get is distance, and radar goes a heck of a lot further than your heimdalls.

[Barskor]

Indeed it should be build better
Well go big or go home as they say.
Thundercloud Contrail racing bike 10 slots page 108 AR 5,000
Lighter than Air 1 slot 2.400
Improved sensor Array1 slot 1,000
Chameleon Coating 1 slots 6,000
Signature Masking 6 6 slots 12,000
Weapon Mount normal sized fixed flexability external visability 1 slot 1,500
Turbo Charger rating 4 4 slots X2 cost 14,800

Handling -1 Acelleration 30/60 Speed 90 Piolt 4 Body 6 Armor 4 Sensors 6


The GTS Tower Arsenal book pages 121/122
Modified  Chameleon Coating 1 Improved Sensors1
Signature Masking 6 6 slots cost x2 24,000
Handling 0 Acceleration 10/30 Speed 120 Pilot 3 Body 4 Armor 2 Sensor 3
Comes with Wepons mount external flexable remote controlled and so you allways can get a signal through a Retransmiter signal 6
And Multi launch drone rack.

Rename  it Goad