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« Reply #30 on: <08-27-11/2051:06> »
Or Dunkie gets edited it, and it seems like the real raw feed, and everyone gets confused, "Isn't he dead?"
Then you've got Ghostwalker on your ass.


Or more amusingly, thinking Dunkelzahn is alive and is using you somehow.
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« Reply #31 on: <08-29-11/1514:54> »

Step 1. Clear your tail.

Step 2. Goto ground.

Step 3. Lay low until you know how bad it is.

Step 4. Get on the good side of the dead dudes enemies/superior/beneficiary.

Step 5. ???

Step 6. Profit!


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« Reply #32 on: <08-29-11/1841:25> »
Some good ideas and tips. With the game coming up this weekend there will be a lot of ideas being fired off before it goes down. We didn't have all players there so several were running as NPC's with the group giving ideas on what they would do/say. Those players should be there this time so we will have full force to plan on how to rework this mess.

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« Reply #33 on: <08-29-11/2022:01> »
just kill everyone they send after you until it becomes financially unfeasible to continue and they realise how bad ass you are, so hire you instead

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« Reply #34 on: <08-29-11/2113:19> »
Well, Erasing Video is hardly covering your tracks there are so many ways in which a GM can logically track you...

Video is the most obvious option, and having a hacker edit it out is a good idea, but remember this is 2072.

First off all your PAN activally tracks your location in the more  secure areas of seattle unless in hidden mode which i doubt there were unless you stated. this is also something your hacker can erase or edit.

you casting a spell can be tracked for ... i beleive it is Force hours, unless you spend complex action(S) to erase them, i cant remember the exsact formula it is to erase the magical residue but yeah... it can be tracked. and remember you cast 2 force 7's.

and with severe damage to two 30 story buildings there will be some sort of response team at the buildings shortly after the severe damage took place, and who ever owned the building would probably be a little but hurt .

and as a GM that sent a Runner Team against you he isnt going to let those slip... if he knows about them.

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« Reply #35 on: <08-29-11/2128:13> »
And that's why Murky Link is so damned handy!  :D
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« Reply #36 on: <08-29-11/2321:04> »
Well, Erasing Video is hardly covering your tracks there are so many ways in which a GM can logically track you...

Video is the most obvious option, and having a hacker edit it out is a good idea, but remember this is 2072.

First off all your PAN activally tracks your location in the more  secure areas of seattle unless in hidden mode which i doubt there were unless you stated. this is also something your hacker can erase or edit.

you casting a spell can be tracked for ... i beleive it is Force hours, unless you spend complex action(S) to erase them, i cant remember the exsact formula it is to erase the magical residue but yeah... it can be tracked. and remember you cast 2 force 7's.

and with severe damage to two 30 story buildings there will be some sort of response team at the buildings shortly after the severe damage took place, and who ever owned the building would probably be a little but hurt .

and as a GM that sent a Runner Team against you he isnt going to let those slip... if he knows about them.

Naielo

At the time I cast the spells my aura was that of an awakened wolf so it will require *by my count using the books* 9 successes *got 4 successes on masking my aura* to notice the true aura attached to the spells. The two force 7's will be an issue but as long as I don't go casting more of the same spell type I will be fine. The aura imprint they find is just the shadow of my aura through that spell it doesn't give info on me. *Again according to the book* The big advantage is that it allows them to set up a pattern to magic use and use it to track down the person or to bust them in the act and use it as evidence.

The PANs are one of the issues but the identities they were attached to are easily tossed.

The other runner team after us was all part of the module he was running, I guess the guy we killed was supposed to be giving us jobs later on. Lesson learned, don't play a vindictive personality when you are suffering from food poisoning, it leaves you acting really short fused.

Since the buildings were in Manhattan it is going to be bad, but with evidence that the guy who destroyed the buildings was a member of the corp that *I think* owns them... Yeah it will be a black mark but also a reason to expand and improve on what was there.

Oh we do have to figure out why the video's of the people that did the "crime" has already been altered to look like different people. Just another mystery that will be solved once the game starts, it might be the other Johnson didn't want his involvement known or some corp is trying to spin it and pick up a new team. The only on that knows isn't talking yet heh,

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« Reply #37 on: <08-29-11/2342:10> »
Manhattan

Someone knows you did it. No on can do anything there without someone knowing, it's the most tightly corp controlled city and almost everyone has a MeFeed running.

This may not be catastrophic though, it might get used as leverage against you at some point though BUT if you're lucky the Neo Anarchist's are the ones who hear about  it and you can get jobs from them.

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« Reply #38 on: <08-31-11/0422:30> »
First off all your PAN activally tracks your location in the more  secure areas of seattle unless in hidden mode which

Technically speaking your commlink tracks your location no matter the mode it's in (unless it's OFF via the new and highly unauthorative "take energy cell out" routine (which, I think, will require brute force by 2072 as companis do not WANT you to take the cells out)). Also, it tracks your location no matter the sec status of the area you're in.

For further inspiration, I recommend this artful visualization of German iPhones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EI7yQnRy7QQ

And – even though it's in German – this VAST and DETAILED animation of all data collected by an iPhone (the grey dot is its GPS position, the other things shown are spots it connected to (even in so-called "off" mode), calls that were made etc. Adjust the "Geschwindigkeit" (speed) to slow down or speed up the animation.
http://www.zeit.de/datenschutz/malte-spitz-vorratsdaten
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« Reply #39 on: <08-31-11/1325:27> »

Technically speaking your commlink tracks your location no matter the mode it's in (unless it's OFF via the new and highly unauthorative "take energy cell out" routine (which, I think, will require brute force by 2072 as companis do not WANT you to take the cells out)). Also, it tracks your location no matter the sec status of the area you're in.


What i meant is your PAN can be tracked very easily unless in hidden mode. in which they would have to sucessfully scan for it.

Electronic Warfare + Scan (15+, 1 Combat Turn) Extended Test

But in order to detect a hidden node you have to be aware that one should be there but missing. a spider seeing a person enter the building but not seeing an active PAN would be a good reason to scan for one.

Naielo

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« Reply #40 on: <08-31-11/1657:32> »
Someone care to update me on what exactly Murky Link is? I've seen it a few times but have never come acrossed it in my core rule book. o.O'

Is it one of the supplements?
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« Reply #41 on: <08-31-11/1705:48> »
SR4A page 92.
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Any ritual sorcery (p. 184) directed against the character receives
a –3 dice pool modifier. Note that this quality may work against the
character in some circumstances, such as when friendly magicians want
to use ritual sorcery to locate or aid the character.

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« Reply #42 on: <08-31-11/1829:49> »
Only Ritual sorcery? Isn't ritual where more then one person is casting the same spell? <.< I haven't dabbled into that part of it thus far but I guess we'll see.
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« Reply #43 on: <08-31-11/1855:56> »
First off all your PAN activally tracks your location in the more  secure areas of seattle unless in hidden mode which

Technically speaking your commlink tracks your location no matter the mode it's in (unless it's OFF via the new and highly unauthorative "take energy cell out" routine (which, I think, will require brute force by 2072 as companis do not WANT you to take the cells out)). Also, it tracks your location no matter the sec status of the area you're in.

For further inspiration, I recommend this artful visualization of German iPhones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EI7yQnRy7QQ

And – even though it's in German – this VAST and DETAILED animation of all data collected by an iPhone (the grey dot is its GPS position, the other things shown are spots it connected to (even in so-called "off" mode), calls that were made etc. Adjust the "Geschwindigkeit" (speed) to slow down or speed up the animation.
http://www.zeit.de/datenschutz/malte-spitz-vorratsdaten

If you are in a secure area that requires a non-hidden id you shoud always carry a basic comlink, have it in public mode, slave it to your real comlink, and run the real one in hidden.  It doesn't set off the whole "hey, that guy is trying to hide" thing, and you can use a burn identity, a law quality SIN to be erased afterword, or an "exposure" identity, a better SIN that you expect to be more durable, but is still seperate from the one you pay the rent and buy your groceries with.  Which should be fake as well.

On top of this, consider one use com codes, call anonimizer services, and disposable comlinks for security areas.

If it sounds paranoid, it is, but thats how you stay alive.  A runner with one comlink might as well paint a big target on their face, ass, and heart.

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« Reply #44 on: <08-31-11/1936:41> »
Only Ritual sorcery? Isn't ritual where more then one person is casting the same spell? <.< I haven't dabbled into that part of it thus far but I guess we'll see.
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