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Datajacks in 4e

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« Reply #60 on: <09-01-11/2340:13> »
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« Reply #61 on: <09-02-11/0026:28> »
In one game I ran, the hacker suffered Dumpshock...  Four times in one day, I think, and was unable to soak one point of damage.  Just a bit of rest and back into the streets.

He decided to go lay down and sleep after he started bleeding from the nose, eyes, and ears (Stun Track to Physical Track).  "F*** the rest of you, I'm going to bed."

It wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't for the fact that he was locked in the back of a Lone Star squad car for the third one.
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« Reply #62 on: <09-14-11/2003:16> »
Personally, I like a data jack along with other cyber-ware just so your other gear isn't wireless. I don't even want the possibly someone can hack my eyes, ears or limbs.

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« Reply #63 on: <09-14-11/2204:11> »
And there's just something satisfying about having plugs in your body.  ;D
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« Reply #64 on: <09-15-11/0710:17> »
Personally, I like a data jack along with other cyber-ware just so your other gear isn't wireless. I don't even want the possibly someone can hack my eyes, ears or limbs.

You realize you can turn the wireless off and just run cyberware off of DNI, right?

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« Reply #65 on: <09-15-11/0737:45> »
A few points in the book try to make a good case for why cyberwear has wireless, and why it should be on. Being able to run diagnostic links and updating firmware being the primary reason, but some cyberware -has- to be wireless if you don't have a datajack. Your imagelink eyes  and soundlink ears can't talk to your comlink without wireless unless it's stuffed in your body too.  A smartlink requires a connection to the weapon.

Well, play it like a hipster and go wired. No spoof command can mess with your gun if it's wireless is turned off. Nobody can detect your nodes in hidden mode if you went to the secret 4th option: Radio = Off mode. Heck, you can just use it to run all your other cyberware though the fortress of upgraded firewalls and black IC your paranoid shadowrunner heart can put on your comlink before you expose yourself to the wide open world.
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« Reply #66 on: <09-15-11/1117:21> »
Heck, you can just use it to run all your other cyberware though the fortress of upgraded firewalls and black IC your paranoid shadowrunner heart can put on your comlink before you expose yourself to the wide open world.
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« Reply #67 on: <09-15-11/1636:55> »
Your imagelink eyes  and soundlink ears can't talk to your comlink without wireless unless it's stuffed in your body too.  A smartlink requires a connection to the weapon.
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« Reply #68 on: <09-15-11/1654:40> »
Acutely, without a datajack you can't run cybereyes/ears on a cable, and skinlink is a bit confusing, as normally it allows other skinlinked devices to talk to each other. If cyberware counts as skinlinked or not is debatable.

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« Reply #69 on: <09-15-11/1712:21> »
Acutely, without a datajack you can't run cybereyes/ears on a cable, and skinlink is a bit confusing, as normally it allows other skinlinked devices to talk to each other. If cyberware counts as skinlinked or not is debatable.

Cyberware that is within about 1.5" of the surface of the skin can use Skinlink. Deeper 'ware can also use Skinlink, but needs to have a modification to allow it to work (basically an "antenna" to get it within range of the Skinlink).

This is per RAW, but I don't have the book handy to cite the page number.

EDIT: Unwired, page 61

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« Reply #70 on: <09-16-11/0211:25> »
Thanks Joe, makes it pretty clear that skinlink removes most reasons you'd want a datajack.

An odd question, dose it ever explicitly say that your implants can share information over DNI? If so, as long as you have one implant skinlink-able, all of them are. If they can't.. well, I would be surprised.

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« Reply #71 on: <09-16-11/0315:32> »
Instead of using a datajack to connect to non-wireless data you want to steal it would be logic just to have a small router that you plug into a port and then connect wireless to that.
Thats how I get internet on my computer at home. Vastly superior to a netcable dragged through half the house  ;D

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« Reply #72 on: <09-16-11/0606:30> »
Or you could plug your comlink into the computer you want to steal data from directly. (Comlinks do generally have a port for that)

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« Reply #73 on: <09-16-11/0607:17> »
Thanks Joe, makes it pretty clear that skinlink removes most reasons you'd want a datajack.

An odd question, dose it ever explicitly say that your implants can share information over DNI? If so, as long as you have one implant skinlink-able, all of them are. If they can't.. well, I would be surprised.
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« Reply #74 on: <09-16-11/1001:20> »
Well, there you go. The reason to buy a datajack is the same reason someone buys a cyberweapon. So that they have their item of choice and it can't just be taken off of them. The datajack can talk to your commlink via a skinlink, thus allowing you to to full VR without risking the trodenet being ripped off, the nanopaste being washed off or the cable being yanked out. You only have to worry about the commlink being removed from contact with your body and that's probably under your clothes, so if that happens you have bigger problems than dumpshock.
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Which I think is sort of like arguing that a partial erection should get all the benefits of an erection.