[Lacynth40]

Good enough for me. You make it sound awesome, Bull.

[FastJack]

Good enough for me. You make it sound awesome, Bull.

It is awesome. I've been using it for Pathfinder as well. Now, I'm not going to lie and tell you it's cheap, but the base price is really good and they have reasonable prices for additional datapacks.

The best part, however, is that it is customizable. So, with a little work, you can make sure that race/item/whatever that isn't in the system can be added to your system.

[bigity]

I seem to recall that out of the gate it wasn't even going to support all the released material, and from personal experience they have been sloooooow in the past to add that kind of thing.  And then you have to pay for it.  This is in regards to new books, IIRC they do update errata for free (hahahaha assuming there was a source for it).

Sure, they are a business, and I have a choice as a consumer.  So the notepad, pencil, and calculator as always available choices as well.

[Bull]

I'm still under NDA, so I'm limited in what I can say, but out of the gate they support a fair amount.  But for the initial release, the concern is getting everything working right.  Once the rules are in place, a lot of Shadowrun update material is simply a matter of adding in numbers, since most stuff doesn't really change the rules at all.

[bigity]

Don't get me wrong, I think the tool itself is awesome.  I used the crap out of it during my Warhammer 40k days.

It's the support and practices around it that keep me away from em.  The whole fool me once thing and all.

[CanRay]

Yeah, well, not like I have a group to make it useful for me anyhow.   

Someday...  Someday...

[AJCarrington]

Don't get me wrong, I think the tool itself is awesome.  I used the crap out of it during my Warhammer 40k days.

It's the support and practices around it that keep me away from em.  The whole fool me once thing and all.

Same company, different program and different license.  Their support of Pathfinder has been pretty solid...for me, no issues at all with the speed of data set releases.  It is a little frustrating not knowing the releases plan(s)...though all should be revealed next week when the data set launches.

That being said, at the end of the day, you have a number of different choices available to you...just have to find what works best.

AJC

[bigity]

Yes it's a different tool but the same concept.  They make software that facilities playing games.  The software is pretty solid.

[AJCarrington]

Fair point.

Rob just posted over on the Lone Wolf forum indicating that full details would be provided in the July update, due in a couple of days.

AJC

[Trenchknife]

I'm a pretty big fan of Lone Wolf.  I use their Army Builder software quite a bit for various miniatures games and it is well done.

[AJCarrington]

Info from the latest Lone Wolf update:

The long wait is nearly over - Shadowrun will be releasing at Gen Con next week. For our final preview before Shadowrun releases at Gen Con, we have two last screenshots for you. First, the Technomancer, showing complex forms, sprites, and an inset image of the Living Persona on the Matrix tab. Second, a street samurai with two identies, multiple lifestyles, and enough contacts to keep him in work.

Remember, we'll be releasing the Shadowrun data package at Gen Con next week! It'll be released concurrently on our web site on August 4th, the first day of the show.

AJC

[AJCarrington]

Some info from Rob re the release tomorrow (yay!!):

The initial release will include just the core book and a few bits from supplements. We've already begun work on some of the major supplements, and we plan to begin releasing those as addons in the next few months. As always, users will be able to add whatever custom material they want via the editor, but we'll be tackling all the major stuff ourselves.

We need to nail down the details about the addons with Catalyst at GenCon this week (and possibly in the weeks following), so we won't be announcing any concrete details until that's all sorted. Thanks in advance for you patience on that stuff....

AJC