[CanRay]

Also, I wrote as part of Pup the Dog Shaman's storyline that he would have gotten a SIN had he stayed in the legitimate orphanage for a certain length of time, or had been adopted.

As he ran away with his "Sister", the orphanage just collects on his "still being there", and he'll have "Run off" a week or so before the SIN is activated...

Purely my idea, I will admit.

[Crash_00]

I don't know about the orphanage part (I could see it both ways depending on where the orphanage is located), but I definitely think that the adoption what absolutely have to come with a SIN. I could see Ares, Lone Star and several Military and Mercenary groups recruiting SINless straight out of orphanages though.

[The Dweller]

UCAS SINless are "Probationary Citizens" and have "Some" rights.

The "Probationary citizens" things was all around in previous editions, but it disappeared with the Fourth Edition. The corebook says not having a SIN is illegal (SR4, page 38 and SR4A, page 41), which I suppose should apply in the defaull, Seattle, UCAS-setting.

Probationary Citizenship is still in 4th edition.  p.258 SR4 and p.266 SR4A.  Second sentence into 'What's In A SIN?'

[CanRay]

Ah, IIRC (Now that it's kicked my head a bit), it's illegal to be in CERTAIN PLACES without a SIN, but not because you don't have a SIN, but because you're not TRANSMITTING your SIN.

It's a difference, but it splits the legal hair to not be "Legally Discriminatory".

[The Dweller]

And pretty much ensures that johnny law will spin your SINless status to whatever suits their interests at the time 

[CanRay]

"We can pretty much close the case on every unsolved murder in this town, nice job boys!"  "Don't I get a call to my lawyer?"  "You watch too many movies."