[Bradd]

What happened to the FBI Academy when Virginia seceded? Quantico is a major US government town, surrounded by a key Marine Corps base on three sides. Did the UCAS relocate its facilities, or did it hang onto the base & town (like Guantanamo Bay in Cuba)?

On a related note, does anyone have a list of the FBI's counterparts in other North American nations? I'm sure that most of the new nations have their own federal/national law enforcement. Last session, our group connected with Salish-Sidhe agents (I think), and we didn't know what to call their G-men.

[DWC]

The UCAS/CAS border is somewhat dubious, and every map of North America released contradicts itself on where the UCAS/CAS border is.  The older ones place it as running through central VA which allows Langley, the Pentagon, and Quantico to remain in the UCAS.  The one in 6WA places it along the Potomac, putting Arlington, Langley, and Quantico in the CAS.  That would suggest that the FBI Academy, DoD, and CIA relocated north to the wilds of rural MD.

Spy Games includes a list of the investigative and intelligence agancies for a small portion of the world.

[Bradd]

I just discovered that the UCAS includes "North Virginia." According to the Sixth World Almanac, it's part of the FDC sprawl, which suggests that the map is incorrect. It sounds like all of those counties across the Potomac from DC stuck with the UCAS as North Virginia when the rest seceded, so there's no need to relocate all of the agencies and military bases in the area.

I'll have to give Spy Games a closer look. It didn't have much information about the FBI, so I wasn't expecting much about their counterparts.

[Crimsondude]

Quantico is still in the UCAS.

Yes, the maps are incorrect. The UCAS/CAS border is the Rappahannock River.

Yes, there is a North Virginia. Even if there wasn't, Langley and the Pentagon (and every other LE/Intel agency) are headquartered well within the FDC, since the FDC is comprised of Washington and the following counties: Arlington, Fairfax, Montgomery, Howard, Prince Georges.

Spy Games doesn't have much about the FBI except for its national security (counterintel, counterterror, etc.) section.

I have compiled a list of every UCAS federal agency for the DeeCee section of Conspiracy Theories. It's considerably smaller than RL.

Anyway, the national police in Salish are the Rangers, which is a paramilitary police force that used to also serve as its military until the war with Tsimshian. There are also separate Border and Coast Guards. In Sioux it's the Sioux National Police. In PCC it's the Security Force, which is both the police (Civil) and military (Defense). Tír Tairngire has the Peace Force. CAS has the Department of Domestic Investigations, (Department is the CAS term for agencies. UCAS-eqv. depts. are Bureaus), which is a catchall federal law enforcement agency. However, the CAS Secret Service exists as a sub-agency of the DDI to perform executive protection.

[Bradd]

Wow, thanks, that's a huge help! Does Prince William County (FBI Academy/MCB Quantico) also belong on that list? Wikipedia lists quite a few more counties associated with the Washington DC metro area, not sure whether FDC is that big.

Do you know what the CalFree G-men are called? Are they the CBI, like on "The Mentalist"?

Is this info collected in a sourcebook somewhere, or is it new stuff you're working on?

[Crimsondude]

Some of the info is in Shadows of North America, on SSC, Sioux, CAS. Some of it never made it into that book (for some silly reason), but I can't recall offhand which don't have that info. In CFS's case, there isn't a CBI anymore because CFS is a bunch of microstates all within the borders of what used to be California. The closest there is to a statewide police force, even in the CFS "proper" around Sacramento and SF are the Rangers—CHiPs who went rogue/private. They operate as a private police force in the public interest.

The official Federal District only contains those counties I mentioned above. However, the DC metro area ("Beltway") comprises quite a few more, including Alexandria, Prince William, Loudoun, Anne Arrundel. I am doing a writeup of the DeeCee Sprawl for Conspiracy Theories, which is going to be slightly different from War! and Spy Games in that it has two large setting briefs (London and Washington) instead of one major setting and a series of teasers on other settings. Because DC is such a company town where all of the FLEAs operate, I needed to make a list of who's in town.

[Bradd]

That's cool! Thanks for the info.

So the Salish & CalFree both have LEO forces called "Rangers"?

[Crimsondude]

Yes.

[Longshot23]

Come to that, were the Texas Rangers absorbed into/taken over by Lone Star? I hope to have the LS sourcebook soon, but I can't remember any reference to the Texas Rangers, and shudder to think of the likes of Walker as a LS badge - Darth Chuck notwithstaning   

[Crimsondude]

Dude.

Dude.

The Rangers show up in my Counterintelligence chapter in Spy Games.

But, no, they are still run by the state of Texas. However, the Texas Rangers are far more militarized than now after the war with Aztlan. As I described them in SG, if you take this paramilitary police/defense force and add a CI/espionage component then you get the current TRs—men and women who can and will hire/deputize/or otherwise control mercs, runners, other assets in order to do the mission of "One riot, one Ranger."

[Longshot23]

Thanks muchly for that, Crimsondude. 

I remember now, a reference to the TX Rangers in the Aztlan s/b surprised me at the time.

[Stormdrake]

Along those lines which of the Agencies does magic and/or paranatural criminal activity fall under?  The reason I ask is the DEA deals with drugs.  The ATF deals with Alcohol, Tobacco and fire arms.  The Secret Service deals with counterfitting and the ssecurity of the President.  Who would get stuck with dealing with the ramppant abuse of magic in the Sixth World?  I can't see the UCAS or CAS not creating a new agency or one of the old ones grabbing it for themselves. 

[Nath]

According to Threats 2, page 57, UCAS has the BATTF, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Telesma, and Firearms. So they would deal with foci smuggling, possibly also spell formulas. Note that Threats 2 was released in 2001, before the US ATF officially became the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.

[Crimsondude]

This will hopefully be addressed relatively soon because federal magic law enforcement seems kind of a big deal in the UCAS.

[Stormdrake]

Interesting.  Will wait and see what comes down the pipe.