[Morg]

Here are a few issues that concern me about Gyrojets.

Even thought RL Gyrojets have been written off as a bad idea they can't be silenced and the are ineffective at close range. I have always found that shooting a mini rocket/missile at someone has a tremendous coolness factor so why not let them shine a little more.

Why is the only Gyrojet weapon a pistol there could be rifles as well and you could even implement the metal storm concept in them to give them a little more of a fire rate, or as a sniper rifle using transonic rounds

I have come to a sudden realization that the Seeker rounds for Gyrojets have been Phased out from SR3 to SR4A could they be resurrected?

as Mini Rockets you could add more ammo types to it they already have Tracker, Taser, and Explosive(Plus rockets) rounds why not the equivalent to APDS, AV, Flare or apply some of the similar effects as explosives eg Chemical rockets, White Phosphorus rockets ect

What kind of weapon modifications can be made to a Gyrojet weapon?

are there any other Gyrojet lovers out there?

[Morg]

I know they exist in other formats already but lets make them Gyrojets

New Gyrojet Rockets             Damage        AP      Availability  Cost
  Gyrojet Ex Plus                     +1             -1            18F        250¥
  Gyrojet Omega(AV)               -            -4/-6          20F       270¥
  Gyrojet Flare                        -2             +2            8           50¥
  Gyrojet Seeker                 As Rocket   As Rocket     +2R      +500¥
  Gyrojet White Phosphorus*    -/4P         -half          14F        260¥
*=White Phosphorus Gyrojet will not receive the +1 DV under water nor will it burn


Because Gyrojet rocket damage is primarily from its explosive charge I feel it should be resisted with impact
When used underwater all Gyrojets get +1 DV
New Gyrojet Weapons           Damage  AP   Mode      RC     Ammo     Availability   Cost
  FN-AALM Gyrojet SMG           6P     -1     SA/BF      2       20(c)         13F          1150¥
  FN-AALR Gyrojet Assault Rifle   7P     -2   SA/BF/FA  2       30(c)          14F         1300¥
  FN-AALG Gyrojet Rifle             9P     -2      SA        (1)      10(c)          16F          3500¥

Thoughts?

[Morg]

Drone weapon               Damage   AP      Mod       RC     Ammo             Availability    cost
 MCT Kouu Suisei               7P       -2      BF/FA*      -      20(ml)x36             20F        9500¥

   The Kouu Suisei "Raining Comet" is a Gyrojet Gunpod is capable of amphibious deployment with incredible fire rates it uses Light Machinegun ranges because of its lack of moveing parts and muzzle loading design It can attain Hyper velocity Fire rates (See Hyper Velocity weapons pg 26 Arsenal)

Thoughts?

[Morg]

Continuing on DS

[The_Gun_Nut]

You could make a micro drone with some C-12 or a fragmentation grenade as its payload and sic it on someone.

BTW, the reason gyrojets were phased out was due to poor engineering and construction, and not due to a bad idea.  Take a gander at some old research and design specs.  (The silly thing had a hammer that struck the FRONT of the rocket and had to be physically moved out of the way by the rocket itself, robbing it of much of it's energy).

[JoeNapalm]

Considering that there are now "smart bullets" under development, some of which use micro-gyros to help alter the trajectory of the bullet in flight, I'd wager that the gyrojet problems would be fairly easy to iron out with over 100 years of progress.

I would expect with increased orbital presence of warring Corps would urge development of such weapons, as long as they proved cheaper/more effective than energy based weapons or environmentally adapted conventional weapons.

Of course, they'd still likely be fairly useless at point-blank ranges.

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

[FastJack]

The fun part about mini-missiles is that, to properly adjust trajectory to a target and such, you need to have built in software and hardware to make those changes.

Which means they could be hacked.

hee hee

[JoeNapalm]

The fun part about mini-missiles is that, to properly adjust trajectory to a target and such, you need to have built in software and hardware to make those changes.

Which means they could be hacked.

hee hee

Ah ha ha! And if they're using an IFF system...Friend / Foe bits, meet my good friend XOR!

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

[The_Gun_Nut]

Until they arm themselves, or are armed by the firer, they would be in autistic mode, most likely.  So no hacking until they are armed, and if they are in the air...weeell, good luck with that.

[JoeNapalm]

I'm thinking that the gun would communicate with a "smart" gyrojet round prior to it firing, in order to set parameters, transfer targeting and environmental data, etc.

Transmitting that data during flight would be problematic, at best - time constraints and jamming come to mind, though a "wireless wire-guided" Gyrojet would obviously have to be actively talking to the guncam.

If it can be communicated with, it can probably be hacked - heck, maybe even armed and detonated in the weapon.

And yes, I DO know I overthink this stuff. 

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

[The_Gun_Nut]

Still hard to pull off.  Skinlink removes so many wireless avenues of attack it can cripple a hacker.  A fire-and-forget warhed would be preferred to one that required constant communication with the launcher, so there goes another.

Not to say that these circumstances will always occur.  There are, after all, still quite a few idiots out there who would ignore these kinds of things.

[Rockopolis]

"But what if I shoot someone and them change my mind?"

[CanRay]

"But what if I shoot someone and them change my mind?"

Wire-Guided systems are old technology, and still damned useful.

[Kontact]

This guy knows what's up.

[Morg]

are there any runners out there that use Gyrojet pistols?