[CanRay]

Oh frag, the '80s...  What were we thinking?

WHAT WERE WE ON???

[Bull]

I love that fashion style.  I miss it.   

Bull

[CanRay]

Yeah, certainly beats what's out there today.

Don't even get me started on cars.  I'm with Marv, "They all look like electric shavers." or some such.

Well, at least we know how they were dressed in 2050, but fashions change.  Even security forces.

[bigity]

Do the shoulderpads at least have cutting edges or something?  I mean, THERE MUST BE A REASON 

[Bull]

Yeah.  One thing I keep pushing Brent and the art guys for is to try and find a "unique" style, regardless of what it is.  Too often, we get "bog standard futuristic", which annoys me.  Say what you will about teh SR1 art, but it had some major style and flair.

[Bull]

Do the shoulderpads at least have cutting edges or something?  I mean, THERE MUST BE A REASON 

I wanted to put Armored Shoulderpads as a fashion accessory into Attitude...  Like Helmets, they add a +1/+1 to armor rating, but give you a 1 point to your Street Cred (Positive if you're dealing with old school runners and fixers, Negative if you're dealing with the younger crowd

[bigity]

Do the shoulderpads at least have cutting edges or something?  I mean, THERE MUST BE A REASON 

I wanted to put Armored Shoulderpads as a fashion accessory into Attitude...  Like Helmets, they add a +1/+1 to armor rating, but give you a 1 point to your Street Cred (Positive if you're dealing with old school runners and fixers, Negative if you're dealing with the younger crowd

Haha, I like it.

[DesVoeux]

I finally found where Knight Errant is described as having black uniforms. New Seattle (Best. Sourcebook. Ever.) describes Knight Errant as "sleek and stylish in their black uniforms". That quote and the picture that has defined how I visualize K.E. troopers are both on page 77.

[John Schmidt]

Funny thing about the shoulder pads phenom...it was relegated to television and the movies. Looking through my high school year books, it wasn't this all incompassing fashion trend.

As for the fashion sported by today's youngsters...I really enjoy it. There is something infinitely amusing seeing some gangsta running from the police holding up his baggy pants. Then you have the 'I'm too lazy to get dressed so I am wearing my PJ's in public' which speaks volumes to me. My personal favorite though has to be the 'Tramp Stamp tattoo', a billboard advertivesment as to the young lady's intentions.   

Thanks Bull for the scan, most of my older SR books are still packed up.

Thanks DesVoeux for the reference in New Seattle.

[John Schmidt]

Back on topic...

I have decide to do a black and red scheme on the vehicle.

Still working on the KE logo...red KE with two variants of borders. For some reason the KE logo reminds me of Heckler & Koch's logo. Anyone remember has Ares bought up H&K?

[Bull]

John:  when you get the color scheme and any designs, let me know.  I'd like to see about getting a uniform design and maybe a "Style SHeet" put together for my Missions artists, so if they need to drawn Knight Errant, they can

As for HK...  I can;t find anything solid.  They're still around, obviously, but no word on who owns them, far as I can see.

[CanRay]

They might still own themselves after all.  Ford has remained independent after all.

But, considering the state of Germany, I'd be betting H&K is a S-K subsidiary by now.

[John Schmidt]

Thanks for your help Bull and to everyone else as well. I will post up a pic as soon as I get it done. 

@CanRay, S-K would be the logical choice for acquiring H&K.

[CanRay]

So, with no official statement, H&K could still own themselves...  They could be an open S-K subsidiary...  Or they could be a secretly-purchased and owned Mega Subsidiary.  Ares is the most likely choice, but it could honestly be anyone.

Actually, considering their work in the media, Horizon would likely have a major interest in H&K, considering how popular their weapons are in movies...

[John Schmidt]

According the old FanPro Corporate Index, H&K were not a subsidiary and the last time that they were mentioned was in the Canon Companion. I have to say that I am pretty surprised though...I would have thought that S-K would have acquired them a long time ago.