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John Schmidt

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« on: <04-29-11/1325:36> »
Does anyone happen to know off of their head what Knight Errants colors are?

I have a police vehicle that want to paint up as KE.
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« Reply #1 on: <04-29-11/1344:54> »
I believe Knight-Errant officers wear black uniforms. I remember it once being compared how Lone Star dresses the part of what a average citizen expects a police officer to look like, while Knight Errant goes out of their way to look like "elite" corporate security.
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« Reply #2 on: <04-29-11/1534:40> »
The illustration in Seattle Sourcebook had Knight Errant in a green-gray (and ugly) uniform. But I also remember a black uniform later mentioned somewhere. Could not tell the book though.

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« Reply #3 on: <04-29-11/1539:52> »
Thanks for the assist.  :)

Not sure about painting the vehicle black. The KE logo is a black KE on a diamond with white background and a gold border. So perhaps a white body with black and gold trim.

Something to ponder.  ;)
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« Reply #4 on: <04-29-11/1558:15> »
Lone Star's colours were Black and Gold.  I've had a few NPCs call them "Bumblebees" for a variety of reasons, not the least of which was how they'd "Bumble" investigations.  :P
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« Reply #5 on: <04-29-11/1622:48> »
DOH!

Well that sucketh mightily!
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« Reply #6 on: <04-29-11/1855:43> »
I've never had my group deal with them, but I base (In my head) Knight Errant's outfits off of the SWAT team of my home town.  (Never mind that I still have no idea why my home town HAS a SWAT team in the first place.  EOD makes far more sense!  I grew up in a mining town, BTW, that's why.).

Black with silver accents, very militaristic, but without any helmets, and very limited on external markings other than rank and name.  It gives a strong sense of authority without being overpowering or frightening to the populous.  Standard patrol has reflective silver accents for high visibility, while other departments have dull silver that doesn't reflect well due to their more clandestine nature.

Detectives, of course, are plainclothes.  A five-year old can still tell they're cops, but they're in suits nonetheless.

Also, I have Hard Corps, Knight Errant's fellow Ares-owned Security Competitor, wearing similar black outfits, but with red accents, and a lot more insignia designating training and (Declassified) operations.

As I now know the location of the supply store for Emergency Services (Police, Fire Department, Ambulance), and have an item on order there (Tanker Boots!), I'll probably get more ideas for things from what they have in stock as they also supply security companies.
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« Reply #7 on: <04-29-11/2041:07> »
Canray, you just echoed what I always thought exactly, just substitute who has the silver and red.

Black, red accents, military cut, higher ranking officers might wear a beret, that sorta thing all day long.
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« Reply #8 on: <04-30-11/0251:46> »
The original Seattle Sourcebook, Page 157, has a color plate picture with a bunch of Security Forces represented.

Knight Errant is in black and grey/silver.  The Logo is a simple red, stylized logo that mixes the K with the E.

It's very similar to this logo that I found on a Shadowrun WIki a while back:



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« Reply #9 on: <04-30-11/0256:54> »
OK, so probably grey uniforms with silver or gold highlights.  Probably silver for patrolmen ("Enlisted" due to Ares using military nomenclature) and gold for detectives and higher ("Officers").

EDIT:  Thanks for the logo, Bull!
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« Reply #10 on: <04-30-11/0315:36> »
Keep in mind that logo is unofficial.  I have no idea who did it, but as far as I can tell, it's not from any of the published books.  At least not English ones.  (The site is only partly in English, and has a wikia.pl address, so is Polish, so may be from one of the licensed Shadowrun products).

That said, it's clearly based on the only Knight Errant logo to actually see print in an English book...  Waaaaay back in the Seattle Sourcebook, as I noted.  In SS, the KE logo is red, and centered over a gray diamond outline on the uniforms belt buckle.

I'm trying to see if I can dig up a scan of the images.  I have the book, but not a scanner. 

EDIT:  WIth Season 4 in Seattle, Knight Errant shows up fairly regularly.  At some point I want to see about getting an updated and official logo done, and probably see about updating their unirms and color schemes at the same time.

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« Reply #11 on: <04-30-11/0929:05> »
@Bull: That KE logo was the one that I had found online. I like the look of it and was planning on using it on the police vehicle I am working on. Since this vehicle has a SRT/SWAT look to it, black as the base color would certainly work. Swap the black KE of the symbol with silver. The gold border with red, and the white field of the diamond with grey. I will put together a mock up in photoshop and post the results to see what people think a bit later today.
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« Reply #12 on: <04-30-11/1031:39> »
Thanks for that logo Bull.  I saved it to my "When things go wrong" file.

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« Reply #13 on: <04-30-11/1911:07> »
Thanks to Crimsondude, I got the color plate "Seattle's Finest" scanned.  I cropped it down a bit, but you can see the colors for KE (and the other security forces).



For reference, it's Aztechnology in the upper left and on the ground in the tan and orange, Renraku in black with the red sash/cape, Mitsuhama is the female in the light blue and silver, KE is the Black and SIlver guy who's pointing, Lone Star is the troll in the blue & gold (of course), and Fuchi (R.I.P.) is the guy kneeling.

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« Reply #14 on: <04-30-11/1913:42> »
Also, in the always fun game of "Spot the Queensryche Reference" from the 1st and 2nd ed days...  We have Eyes of a Stranger as Grafitti. :)