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« Reply #15 on: <04-12-11/1840:20> »
Yes, he was in Terminus Experiment. Also his wife and unborn child were turned into vampires, he ended up killing them and swearing vengence on vampiredom. Somewhere along the lines he became one himself. I don't remember much about his partner.
Is that bit about his wife and child in Terminus Experiment? I find myself tragically unschooled in the novels, so this is the first time I've ever actually heard this part of the story.
Yes it is. He tells it to one of the vampire hunters who fear/hate him because he is a vampire. To get her to feel sorry for him. And of course, it works.
Also, there's vampires with cyberware and genetically altered vampires that can live under the sun and eat normal food in this book . . and elfish lesbian stripper vampire huntresses . .
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« Reply #16 on: <04-12-11/1845:01> »
Vamps can use deltaware

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« Reply #17 on: <04-12-11/1904:01> »
This was BEFORE that.
Also, these are genetically altered and remote-controlled(by chip) mass produced vampires who have lost several of their weaknesses . .
HUNDREDS of them. And one Mafia-Clan has been subverted or maybe even mostly changed into vampires . .
Someone went WAY over the Top with this Novel. Not that it's really bad . . it just does not portray Shadowrun propperly in my eyes . .
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« Reply #18 on: <04-12-11/2015:28> »
I could easily see one Mafia family getting stuck with a spreading strain of HMHVV.  I mean, hell, it's like Herpes.  With biting.   :P
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« Reply #19 on: <04-12-11/2034:23> »
Someone went WAY over the Top with this Novel. Not that it's really bad . . it just does not portray Shadowrun propperly in my eyes . .

Which is in no way unique to this particular novel.

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« Reply #20 on: <04-12-11/2046:52> »
I could easily see one Mafia family getting stuck with a spreading strain of HMHVV.  I mean, hell, it's like Herpes.  With biting.   :P
The Mafia. Who is about as Xenophobic as possible?
Who if they have a choice STILL only want Male Humans of Italian/Sicilian Birth in their Ranks?
Who would look at Yomi and go:"That's a good idea, let's do that with some island around italy too!"
And those are now supposed to accept Vampires, who are not even accepted by Metahumans for the most Part?
i'll go to bed now, i'm tired.
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« Reply #21 on: <04-12-11/2259:16> »
It wasn't the mafia it was the family running a security company called Fratezella(?) Inc. They did some security work for the mafia but weren't "made".
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« Reply #22 on: <04-13-11/0054:23> »
The Fratellanza are the Alta Commissione's all-star company men. The people they call upon to send a Message with a capital "M". There's a whole write-up on them in Vice. The only corporations I can think of off hand actually run by the mafia are Franklin Associates (which has the fire services contract in Seattle) and Trans-Europa.

The Mafia is ripe with nepotism, but I don't they're particularly biased otherwise. There seem to be an awful lot of ork and troll soldati...

As an aside, there are the N’drangheta out of GeMiTo... aka, the insect mafia. Is it ever established whether the Alta Commissione is aware they are bugs? I can't remember.
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