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DesVoeux

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« Reply #30 on: <04-17-11/2228:51> »
Ah, the CrashCart fiasco! Thank you, it was bugging me that I couldn't think of any particularly horrible things from Evo's history and was about to start rummaging through old sourcebooks.
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« Reply #31 on: <04-17-11/2237:42> »
CrashCart fiasco!

can someone pm me details?

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« Reply #32 on: <04-18-11/0215:14> »
People, especially VIP's got into "accidents" then got "rescued" by CrashCart faster and cheaper than DocWagon did . . And they got Cyber-Replacements with 2XS-Chips hardwired into them built in as part of the restauration of what was left of them to begin with. Remote Control 2XS Chips, to boot. So CrashCart could send people on trips better than BTL if and when they wanted to. And even if they did not, the chips themselves were still giving off higher than usual rates for chips, so the endeffect was that the people got burned out within weeks to months. And those who did not were, i think, seen as prime rib meat for insect spirits to possess . .
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« Reply #33 on: <04-18-11/1155:45> »
Stahl, man, Spoilers!
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« Reply #34 on: <04-18-11/1453:20> »
#1 Shiawase. I want to be part of a big family megacorp.

#10 Saeder-Krupp. I know the Big A is full of blood mages, but I would not work for a boss so hard to please.

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« Reply #35 on: <04-18-11/1533:56> »
The only time I wanted to work for Saeder-Krupp was when Scale (Lofwyr's drake/ally/henchman) responded to someone saying they'd never work for a dragon with something along the lines of, "Imagine being given access to more information that you thought fathomable, any resources you could dream of, and the most powerful being in the Sixth World... that's working for Lofwyr." I wish I could find what old book that's from... but it really made me want to create a Drake player character working for the Golden Snout.
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"No one starts a war; or rather, no one in his senses ought to do so; without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by that war and how he intends to conduct it." - Carl Philipp Gottfried von Clausewitz

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« Reply #36 on: <04-19-11/0232:43> »
Stahl, man, Spoilers!
Dude . . after more than 5 years, i just don't really care anymore . .
That's like people not knowing the end of Romeo and Juliet(They both die), or Titanic(They all die) . .
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« Reply #37 on: <04-19-11/0458:50> »
The Universal Brotherhood was like The Sixth Sense of Shadowrun... it was powerful because it was the first big, dark twist.
Bull. Crap.

The Universal Brotherhood came out in 1990. Shadowrun might have been a year old at that point. Even in-game storywise, and most certainly among players, most people have been around long enough that they knew, or only knew, a world where the UB was evil.

Anyway, I'd pick Aztechnology, just like I always do when these things have come up since ... a long time.
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"Nonetheless, he should be slow to believe and to move, nor should he make himself feared, and he should proceed in a temperate mode with prudence and humanity so that too much confidence does not make him incautious and to much diffidence does not render him intolerable.
   From this a dispute arises whether it is better to be loved than feared, or the reverse. The response is that one would want to be both the one and the other; but because it is difficult to put them together, it is much safer to be feared than loved, if one has to lack one of the two. For one can say this generally of men: that they are ungrateful, fickle, pretenders, and dissemblers, evaders of danger, eager for gain. While you do them good, they are yours, offering you their blood, property, lives and children, as I said above, when the need for them is far away; but, when it is close to you, they revolt."
   -- Niccolo Machiavelli. The Prince (Mansfield, 2nd ed.), p.66.

"The prince should nonetheless make himself feared in such a mode that if he does not acquire love, he escapes hatred, because being feared and not being hated can go together very well. This he will always do if he abstains from the property of his citizens and his subjects, and from their women... But above all, he must abstain from the property of others, because men forget the death of a father more quickly than the loss of a patrimony."
   -- Niccolo Machiavelli. The Prince (Mansfield, 2nd ed.), p.67.

"I conclude, then, returning to being feared and loved, that since men love at their convenience and fear at the convenience of the prince, a wise prince should found himself on what is his, not on what is someone else's; he should only contrive to avoid hatred, as was said."
   -- Niccolo Machiavelli. The Prince (Mansfield, 2nd ed.), p.68.
Being a company man I have long held has meant having a higher than average rate of having to deal with civilians and not just the shadows. In the shadows, you're feared; in the real world Aztechnology PR is so g-d good you're loved; and generally if you are good enough to rate being a company man you know how to blend those sentiments together in both worlds so that you are both loved and feared.

And no one lives long enough to hate you much.
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« Reply #38 on: <04-19-11/1016:07> »
The only time I wanted to work for Saeder-Krupp was when Scale (Lofwyr's drake/ally/henchman) responded to someone saying they'd never work for a dragon with something along the lines of, "Imagine being given access to more information that you thought fathomable, any resources you could dream of, and the most powerful being in the Sixth World... that's working for Lofwyr." I wish I could find what old book that's from... but it really made me want to create a Drake player character working for the Golden Snout.

Dragons of the Sixth World, I'm pretty sure. It's where Scale and another drake are sniping at each other in commentary.

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« Reply #39 on: <04-21-11/0459:49> »
Crimson, I hope you realize that Machiavelli wrote "The Prince" as a satire and critique of the Medici family (the mobbin-est family in the history of Itally) after they turned him down for patronage and publically insulted him.  It... wasn't meant to be taken seriously... though the Medici's beat him by massively reprinting it and portraying it as a serious work in order to defame Machiavelli.  Hell, they bought the Papacy, twice.  What's ruining the name of a young political theorist next to that.  The longevity and proliferation of The Prince is a testament to the power of the Italian mob.

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« Reply #40 on: <04-21-11/1556:23> »
Crimson, I hope you realize that Machiavelli wrote "The Prince" as a satire and critique of the Medici family
That's become a more modern interpretation, but there is by no means a consensus on that idea. Many still believe Machiavelli was looking for work anywhere he could get it and was sucking up to the Medici.
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« Reply #41 on: <04-26-11/2324:32> »
Crimson, I hope you realize that Machiavelli wrote "The Prince" as a satire and critique of the Medici family (the mobbin-est family in the history of Itally) after they turned him down for patronage and publically insulted him.  It... wasn't meant to be taken seriously... though the Medici's beat him by massively reprinting it and portraying it as a serious work in order to defame Machiavelli.  Hell, they bought the Papacy, twice.  What's ruining the name of a young political theorist next to that.  The longevity and proliferation of The Prince is a testament to the power of the Italian mob.

Most of it is just common sense. At least I believe so. I got bored halfway through because I wasn't learning anything new...

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« Reply #42 on: <04-27-11/2000:40> »
Hm. I'll just say that you missed the most important part.

Of course, consider that I specifically cited the Mansfeld edition. Straussians straight up represent!

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« Reply #43 on: <05-25-11/0717:02> »
#1 is DocWagon all the way
#10 would be Renraku.  Boooooooring!
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