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« Reply #15 on: (01:02:45/09-15-18) »
What rating autosoft does a TM get with the Resonance program Echo? (In regards to the machinists daemon)
Yeah, TMs got thrown in the cell with Bubba the Love Troll and sandpaper for lube.
there is autosofts for everything  8)

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« Reply #17 on: (11:04:46/09-15-18) »
Both of those can go above 6.  Autosofts do not.

Besides, if it was submersion grade, then imagine how crappy it would be to spend 20 karma on a stream, and another however much on a couple of submersions in order to actually use that stream, and then only get R3 or so autosofts out of them for however long....
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« Reply #18 on: (16:15:26/09-15-18) »
Datajack Plus questions


#1 - The Datajack Plus states in the Rules text that it can be "connected to a commlink or cyberdeck".  Can the Datajack Plus be connected to an Remote Control Console?  An RCC "can act like a commlink and has all the features of a commlink", so it seems like RAI supports this, and RAW can be argued as well.


#2 - Can a character benefit from more than one Datajack Plus at a time?  RAW would indicate yes (although each one is a separate connected device).  This could make a decker's available programs effectively unlimited - 4 alphaware Datajack Plus at Rating 3 could run 12 Common and Hacking programs for 0.5 essence and 42,000 nuyen...in addition to giving 4 points of noise reduction.

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« Reply #19 on: (16:45:09/09-15-18) »
You would only be able to use the programs running on your persona's device?
You can only form your persona on one device at a time.
The action economy to switch the devices would probably outweigh the unbalance of many datajack pluses.

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« Reply #20 on: (16:52:46/09-15-18) »
But you don't run your persona on your data jack. If what you say would be true, data jack plus wouldn't work at all.
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« Reply #21 on: (19:47:26/09-15-18) »
He said each data jack plus running with a separate connected device. That's the limiter, isn't it?

Datajack plus says it treats the device connected to it as running the program. But even if you multiple connected to different devices, you don't share those programs across devices so...

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« Reply #22 on: (20:34:20/09-15-18) »
Then I'll throw it out there:

  • Can you use more than one Datajack Plus with the same device?

Off hand, I would say "no."

But if Antenna Earware stacks with Datajacks for Noise Reduction, that would suggest that "yes" you can use multiple signal transfer devices with the same Persona Device.
Combine with the fact that you don't require a DNI to form a Persona, and I think the rules support the idea.

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« Reply #23 on: (20:44:47/09-15-18) »
Datajacks stack for noise reduction so why not programs too? Essence has been paid

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« Reply #24 on: (23:29:50/09-15-18) »
So long as your living persona has the ability to connect with a device I don't see any reason it shouldn't work.
From a balance stand point your taking a meaningful hit to have access to a datajack plus, no reason it shouldn't do something for you.
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« Reply #25 on: (04:36:26/09-16-18) »
Datajacks stack for noise reduction so why not programs too? Essence has been paid
Don't get me started on that insanity. -_-
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« Reply #26 on: (05:30:50/09-16-18) »
Datajacks stack for noise reduction so why not programs too? Essence has been paid
Don't get me started on that insanity. -_-

Makes perfect sense, doesnīt it. I also just installed a 2 additional wheels in my car, which is now 50% faster.
Still surprised why this madness is still RAI ::)

(And why I still havenīt seen decker builds with >2 Datajacks. Itīs almost as if the players have a better sense for whatīs cheesy than the responsible freelancers  :P)
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« Reply #27 on: (04:23:14/10-11-18) »
Iīm just putting this here: https://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=28560.msg508519

Fundamental uncertainty over the way Hosts and WANs work. Probably fundamental enough that one of the Kill Code writers designed the rules for "Industry Hosts" around an incorrect(?) assumption about the Core Matrix rules.

Edit: Cleared. The corresponding passages in the Core Roles and/or in Kill Code could still use a clarifying sentence or two, though  ;)
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