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Striking Calluses Clarification

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JoeNapalm

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« on: <08-11-16/1341:19> »

Am I reading this right?

They're listed as $250 / 0.05 ESS, sold individually, but you have to buy two to receive any benefit?

Why in the name of Dunklezahn's Ghost wouldn't you just write that as $500 / 0.1 ESS for +1 DV?

I mean, that's just....GAH.

Eschew obfuscation!!


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« Reply #1 on: <08-11-16/1432:04> »
You get a benefit from one: P instead of S damage with your punch
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« Reply #2 on: <08-11-16/1632:55> »
You get a benefit from one: P instead of S damage with your punch

I cannot think of a less efficient way to accomplish that.  ::)

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« Reply #3 on: <08-11-16/1639:13> »
True, but that's what you get for being cheap and not buying a set  ;)
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« Reply #4 on: <08-11-16/1734:05> »
You can't put them on cyber hands as I recall.

So if you have a cyberarm on your right side, you only need to buy 1 for the left...

(Of course, why your not punching with your metal right hand is beyond me...)
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« Reply #5 on: <08-11-16/1817:19> »
It could have less Strength/Agility than your normal one...
Would you want to go into a place where the resident had a drum-fed shotgun and can see in the dark?

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« Reply #6 on: <08-11-16/2328:05> »
Maybe your a Nartaki who lost an arm in bad fishing accident?

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« Reply #7 on: <08-12-16/0051:22> »

Oh bloody...

Looks like Striking Calluses and Bone Density Aug won't stack with Knucks?!

I guess I can see that, but I'd think a tougher, denser limb behind the hardliner gloves would still let you strike harder -- one of the limits of how hard you can hit someone is how tough your hands are. 

In any case, that's a dead even heat -- $14k for 17[9] 7P, or $15K for 15[8] 9P.

Of course, the latter also costs me 10 Karma and the Wanted Neg Quality.

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« Reply #8 on: <08-12-16/0156:22> »
Liberal application of striking calluses are part of how you end up with unarmed damage in the low twenties.

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« Reply #9 on: <08-12-16/0940:06> »
Liberal application of striking calluses are part of how you end up with unarmed damage in the low twenties.

I would assume that's on a Troll?  :o

I've finagled it up to 9P[8] -4 AP with four Striking Calluses, Level 2 Bone Density Augmentation (#@$%ing HOBO CHARGEN!) and a weak-ass Qi Focus.

I guess the Qi Focus doesn't affect damage, but it does offset somewhat losing the Weapon focus.


You can't put them on cyber hands as I recall.

So if you have a cyberarm on your right side, you only need to buy 1 for the left...

(Of course, why your not punching with your metal right hand is beyond me...)

Also - you've still only got 1 pair, so no bueno, no bonus.

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« Reply #10 on: <08-12-16/1301:44> »
Adept power Critical Strike confers +1 DV doesn't it?

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« Reply #11 on: <08-12-16/1355:16> »

Yup, and Penetrating Strikes is -1 AP/level, which is kind of the  same thing.

Unless this hobo is punching other hobos.

Bum fights, and such...otherwise anti-armor is pretty much plus damage.

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« Reply #12 on: <08-12-16/1404:20> »
Not exactly, AP is only about 1/3 as effective as +DV

If you can, you should look at Adept Spell (Elemental Aura). That one has huge damage potential.
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« Reply #13 on: <08-12-16/1438:47> »
Not exactly, AP is only about 1/3 as effective as +DV

If you can, you should look at Adept Spell (Elemental Aura). That one has huge damage potential.

Okay, since each die only has about a 1/3 chance of being a hit? I guess that does make sense.

In that case, Penetrating Strikes has diminishing returns. Rank 1 gives me a 33.3% chance of nullifying a hit on their damage resist roll.

But R2 is only +22.25%, R3 +14.81%, and 9.88% for R4.

At that rate, I might drop it from R4 to R3, dumping that point back into Combat Sense R3...also diminishing returns, but balanced out vs my current PS 4/CS 2.

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« Reply #14 on: <08-12-16/1459:15> »
Not in all cases: When you are dealing with Hardened or Vehicle Armor, AP becomes very important.

That said: Yes, Combat Sense R1 is a very good power to have - not so much because of the defense bonus but because it becomes a lot harder to surprise you.
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