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Digital_Viking

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« on: <01-10-11/1009:04> »
Ok so we have the Tir Ghosts, Sioux Wildcats and...well what else is there? I'm sure they are mentioned somewhere, but I have missed it - so what are some other the other "premier" units in Shadowrun? Anything from CAS, or one of the merc companies? As I say, I'm sure they have been mentioned, but damned if I can find them.
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« Reply #1 on: <01-10-11/1153:09> »
SAS mentioned in the London Sourcebook (way back in first Edition), also cited in the 3rd Edition follow-up Shadows of Europe but there aren't any stats or history details, etc.

I know that there was a chapter on mercenary outfits in obne of the third Edition sourcebooks, State of the Art 2063 I think. Met 2000, Tsunami, 10,000 Daggers etc. That goes into the background and fluff along with new toys and rules. The only other book really going to town on military/mercenaries in the Sixth World was the second Edition Fields of Fire sourcebook, now available as an ebook download.

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« Reply #2 on: <01-10-11/1157:43> »
Don't know why SAS (and Firewatch) slipped my mind.
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« Reply #3 on: <01-10-11/1323:31> »
CAS ferrets,
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« Reply #4 on: <01-10-11/1324:46> »
CAS ferrets,
Where's that from?
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« Reply #5 on: <01-10-11/1421:23> »
CAS ferrets,
Where's that from?
Just Compensation, a novel by Robert Charette. They were retconned in SoNA to not really exist and the Ferrets name now belongs to a Marine recon unit. Pthbbbbbbbt on that.

UCAS and CAS basically have the same specfor units as now. Seattle 2072 says the Ranges allow women though. I used to run the SR military site if you can find it on the Internet Archive. The special mission units now are likely to still exist. So it is a matter of new countries than whether the SEALs are still around (they are).

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« Reply #6 on: <01-10-11/1425:25> »
Just Compensation, a novel by Robert Charette. They were retconned in SoNA to not really exist and the Ferrets name now belongs to a Marine recon unit. Pthbbbbbbbt on that.

UCAS and CAS basically have the same specfor units as now. Seattle 2072 says the Ranges allow women though. I used to run the SR military site if you can find it on the Internet Archive. The special mission units now are likely to still exist. So it is a matter of new countries than whether the SEALs are still around (they are).
Well I just assumed Marines existence - we are eternal ;)  Thanks, I will give it a look up
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« Reply #7 on: <01-10-11/1443:55> »
In the novel they are Force Recon or a subunit of FR (I forget which) but they act with similar undercover subversive tactics as Spetsnaz. I thought it was a cool idea. Apparently others felt differently. Of course these militaries are considerably smaller now and so it wuld stand to reason that specfor would change as well over time to reflect being part of militaries with no official presence beyond their own borders.

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« Reply #8 on: <01-10-11/2302:00> »
I have added a "Spellbourne" Magical unit and a black ops hacker unit to my Shadowrun Game.

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« Reply #9 on: <01-10-11/2325:35> »
Renraku has the Red Samurai, elite "security" teams. Each squad of five usually includes one spellcaster.

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« Reply #10 on: <01-11-11/0459:48> »
I have heard the (UCAS) Navy S.E.A.L.s referenced, if only in passing and in character creation posts.
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« Reply #11 on: <01-11-11/1239:57> »
I think that it would make sense that the French Foreign Legion would still be around.  Also the British Marine Commando and SBS.  Russia would still have the Spetsnaz and Alfa.  Now whether Germany would still have the GSG9 is up for debate seeing that the country split up. At least this is my opinion.

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« Reply #12 on: <01-11-11/1253:54> »
I imagine one or more of the various German states would maintain something at least resembling it.

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« Reply #13 on: <01-11-11/1827:51> »
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« Reply #14 on: <01-12-11/1646:02> »
I imagine one or more of the various German states would maintain something at least resembling it.

You got to wonder how special a Spec force team is when they come from a really small nation state without huge budgets.  Special Forces take millions of dollars to train and equip.  I mean does Costa Rica's special forces really hold a candle to the Russia's Alfa or Delta?  I guess maybe if some of the small German states spec ops were supported by SK?  Then the question would be could you really trust them?