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The Wonders of Silence

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« Reply #15 on: <01-12-11/1209:35> »
To make it less expensive (still gonna be pricey, either money or karma-wise), the gun would have to be hand crafted and inlaid with special materials.

Hand crafting a revolver shouldn't be that hard, but hand crafting a sniper rifle or an assault rifle will be extremely problematic.  Doable, but there are easier ways to achieve ones goal.

It would be wicked cool, though.
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« Reply #16 on: <01-16-11/0219:42> »
Just use subsonic rounds and a suppressor/silencer.  The only sound will be the sere reset (trigger mechanism simply put) and possibly the hammer, if weapons geared for caseless rounds still have hammers...  
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Drill out the rifling in the firearm to make the weapon subsonic while still using a suppressor/silencer (you won't have the same range with the weapon, but it will be almost as quiet as the first example).  

Those are the cheapest routes!

EDIT:
Revolvers being silenced is an oxymoron, since the cylinder isn't enclosed there is always going to be the sound of the round going off that can't be muffled (which is what silencers/suppressors do).  But it's the future so who am I to say...
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« Reply #17 on: <01-16-11/0927:58> »
EDIT:
Revolvers being silenced is an oxymoron, since the cylinder isn't enclosed there is always going to be the sound of the round going off that can't be muffled (which is what silencers/suppressors do).  But it's the future so who am I to say...

Thatīs where magic is your friend! *grin*
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« Reply #18 on: <01-16-11/1315:04> »
There have been a few examples of a silenced revolver, but pretty much all of them require modifying the cylinder so it not only rotates, but slides forwards to slightly envelop the end of the barrel. When cycling the cylinder first slides back to release the barrel, rotates to the next round, then slides forward to mate with the barrel again.

Pretty much not seen in any production models, purely one-off experimental designs.



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« Reply #19 on: <01-16-11/1324:17> »
There have been a few examples of a silenced revolver, but pretty much all of them require modifying the cylinder so it not only rotates, but slides forwards to slightly envelop the end of the barrel. When cycling the cylinder first slides back to release the barrel, rotates to the next round, then slides forward to mate with the barrel again.

Pretty much not seen in any production models, purely one-off experimental designs.



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Sounds interesting, probably also helps accuracy and range too.

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« Reply #20 on: <01-16-11/1452:02> »
If I'm not mistaken most of those weapons used a specific cartridge where the brass actually protruded slightly in front of the cylinder (with the bullet recessed into the case) and was engaged into a slight widening at the beginning of the barrel by a forward motion of the cylinder and the pressure from the gases expanding and tightly pressing the (relatively soft) case, sealing the gap. The Nagant model 1895 used this design, and was made in significant numbers by the russians.

IMHO it is more an exercise in somewhat perverted engineering, as you can get the same increase in power (about +15/20% muzzle velocity) with a hotter load, if you really need a silenced weapon an automatic pistol would do the trick.

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« Reply #21 on: <01-16-11/1532:25> »
Yeah, I had forgotten about the Nagant.

Theoretically, you should be able to install a working silencer on a Nagant.

[edit] Ahah, yes, see here:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/Nagant%20model%201895%20silencer/ranb40/firearms/1895nagant-1.jpg



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« Reply #22 on: <01-18-11/1334:24> »
THAT was incredibly ugly... *grin* I mean, the whole point of sticking to your revolver instead of getting a pistol is that the revolver is so much cooler...
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