[Senko]

Shame I deleted the deckplans before you got a look at them then, here's the full plan if you don't mind taking a quick look (I'll take it down again in a bit)? I'll also throw in the descriptive text again even if it doesn't match up as for your ressponses.

1) Hmmm no rooms are shown but if that's what it is then that's not something I'd have ever thought off, it sounds like what's on the top deck though.

2) I was thinking more along the lines of the Mobius which uses drones for the work and requires only 1 rigger to actually run the ship.

3) Hmmm don't think that's it as there are a lot of them.

Designed to sleep twelve guests on the main deck,two on the owner deck, and eight crew on the lower deck, the ship can easily fit ten times that many during a party. The guest sleeping quarters, not berths, six entire rooms, are located in the fore section of the main deck along with attached full bathrooms. The two foremost cabins also have hot rooms between the sleeping quarters and the bathroom. A stairwell is located near the fore that goes up to the social deck. The aft section has a circular stair near amidship followed by a large social/dining room. Beyond that is another large social areabuilt around the glass lower section of the pool on the deck above. A split stairwell near the aft of the ship leads up to the social deck.

The owner deck is the entertainment heart of the Classic 111. The aft section of the deck is also known as the pool deck, because that’s where the eight-meterlong pool is, along with its sitting and sunning areas. The pool deck, fore deck, emergency boat berths, and balconies are the only open areas of this deck. The foredeck has seating and sunning chairs along with a bar. It also possesses an access stair to the main deck, along with the anchor rigging and a pair of Zodiac Geminis for porting and emergencies. The enclosed areas of the owner deck contain a large social area near the pool that often doubles as a bar or dance area for parties, a bathroom attached to the club, the central stair with access to the emergency boat decks, and the owners living quarters. The owners quarters consist of an office, conference/social room, workout room, sauna, bathroom, two walkin closets, and the master bedroom at the fore. While it may sound like a lot, none of the rooms feel cramped. The conference/social room has floor-to-ceiling windows, as do the workout room and office.

Above the owner deck is the control deck. The fore section of the deck is the control room, where the control room is completely enclosed with access from the lower decks as well as two doors out around the rear sitting area. The rear sitting area is a simple table and seats or a hot tub. This is only accessible through the control room, so it’s either for the captain and crew, or it’s intended to torture them as bikini-clad elves slither through the control room on the way to the tub.

The lowest deck is all motors, ballasts, and storage. It’s all very tight compared to the upper decks, but the owners and guests rarely come down here. If they do, the last thing they are worried about is the cramped space.

[CitizenJoe]

Yeah, I'd say there was just some mix up about the directions.
The hot rooms are in fact in the back of the ship at 6 resp. 7

Where did you think aft was on that picture.  I thought it was to the left, i.e. the pool was towards the stern. 

I kinds had issue with deck heights, unless there was an engineering deck between the two that were shown. Unless the pool was an "above ground" style pool, it should have dropped into the lower deck, but there were passages and rooms below it.  Also, the sauna (top right of lower deck) climbs up on those steps so that room would have to be a meter or two taller than the rest of the deck.

[Senko]

That's been my problem here, take a look at the descriptive text the pool is meant to not only go to the deck below but have an entire room built around its glass bottom instead we get a kitchen and laundry. I hadn't thought about the sauna's tiered seating before though.

[CitizenJoe]

If you take a look at the vintage 111m yacht, pool access is from the owner deck with glass walls around the pool on the main deck. Maybe the deck above the pool is the access deck.

Or maybe the artist didn't have a hundred years of nautical architecture under his belt.

[Senko]

I honestly don't care if the ship as presented is one any experienced sailor will take one look at and go "That'd tip over and sink in a light wind." or if they mix up nautical terms. What bugs me is that the entry in the book doesn't match up its descriptive text to the deckplan and the deckplan itself makes no sense in a lot of areas when you look at it just in its own layout e.g. no access to the cockpit, that room at the end of the control deck's section (whatever it is) or the warehouse at the front of the ship on the middle deck. Take a good look at the deckplan and tell me how your meant to get into the warehouse? Then there's things like this line "The owners quarters consist of an office, conference/social room, workout room, sauna, bathroom, two walkin closets, and the master bedroom at the fore." it doesn't matter if they're at the front or rear of the ship, it matters that they aren't at either on this deck only parts of them are and I don't see a workout room anywhere. That's what's causing me troubles. I'm even willing to live with the fact the artist of the deckplan probably didn't communicate as closely as they should have with the writer who came up with the descriptve dialogue I just want to make sense of the two so I can adapt it with some idea of what I'm dealing with. Things like what a hot room is, why the deckplan has 3 kitchens but only 1 laundry, how you're meant to get into the cockpit and things like that. Give me these and I'll use the deckplan, maybe modified a little to include things from the description or real world sources I like.

[CitizenJoe]

These ships aren't produced in the hundreds, there's maybe a few made every year and every one of them is custom.  So, for that price tag you can pretty much put things where you want. I personally, would grab the existing, proven to work Vintage 111 picture and either modify or assign rooms from that picture.  If the decription bothers you, just take a magic marker and cross out the stuff that doesn't make sense.  The picture is one example of a custom ship.  Other ships could be drastically different.

[Senko]

Moved this here as you replied while I was editing.

On the vintage yes access does look like it would be from the deck above but if you look at the one from the rigger book you can see that's not possible on this one as the pool goes under that window on its deck and the deck above is just smooth planking so that pool is probably only half a metre to a metre deep just enough to lounge and swim in. That is an example of something I could modify but I want to know enough so I can decide if I would prefer to extend the pool up like the real world model or down and rearrange the rooms on that deck a little. It wouldn't take much if those unlabelled small rooms are actually bedrooms just remove them, move the laundry/kitchen/warehouse to there and convert that space into a large entertainment area with the glass bottom of the pool extending into it. However to make that decision I need a better idea, hopefully from someone who does know about these kind of ships as I've never even taken a cruise of just what all the names and rooms actually are. For instance returning again to that large room with the pipes in it on the top deck I have no idea what that is it could just be a nice piece of artwork or it could be a vitally important component of making a yacht actually work and until I know I can't make a decision if I should remove it, move it or leave it in place. I don't like moving/changing things unless I have either a decent idea of what I'm playing with or its something like a starship and the whole things theoretical anyway as long as you like it and have the basics (living quarters, cockpit, engines, etc).

I am actually trying to dig up a nice complete deckplan of that ship rather than just the two social ones (and preferably one that's labelled) so I can get an idea of passenger rooms, crew quarters, how much of the lower deck is things like ballast and how much is free space for stores, whether the cockpit has access from the side ala movies and as I mentioned above which rooms have to go in there somewhere.

[BetaCAV]

No one can even tell me what a hot room is?

My guess would be a "hot tub room".

[Aryeonos]

If Ihad to guess I'd say a hot room is the vanity room with sink that features a heat lamp or heated floors for warming up drying off and doing your grooming. While the actual bath remains free.

[Jack_Spade]

I already told you: Hot room is just an umbrella term (paradigma) for the (Finish) sauna and the Turkish bath.

[Senko]

Yes you did, it just seems an odd thing to put between a bedroom and its bathroom especially when its a group sauna. Can you help with the other questions please?

[Jack_Spade]

Let's see:

2) I assume that the 8 crew quarters means that there's meant to be 8 crew to run it could you modify this for the single person running of the lurssen by adding drones?

Sure. I'd even say that the autopilot is enough to get it from point A to point B. Maintenance can be done by drones

3) What are those rooms between the kitchen and the bedrooms on the lowest deck and the bedrooms and the bar area on the middle deck going by the description they should be bathrooms but each of the guest quarters has its own ensuite and it would make more sense to have 1 bathroom for crew than to make this many smaller ones.

I'm disregarding the text and looking only at the deck plan:
The kitchen at 10 and the bedrooms at 8 don't have a room between them. That's just a corridor. I don't see any rooms between the piano bar(11) and the bedrooms (

With regards to layout.

1) It say's there's a "A stairwell is located near the fore that goes up to the social deck. The aft section has a circular stair near amidship followed by a large social/dining room." I can't see this stairwell on the deckplan, in fact the only stairwell I can see are the circular one and one that appears to go down presumably to the lower deck.

There is no stairwell. The text is wrong. Or the plan. Or both.

3) It then goes on to say "Beyond that is another large social area built around the glass lower section of the pool on the deck above. A split stairwell near the aft of the ship leads up to the social deck." The split stairs is on the deck above not the main deck and there is no sign anywhere on this deck of a large social area built around the lower part of the pool in fact the area below the pool is divided between  warehouses, laundry and the kitchen a pool furthermore that is at the bow of the ship not the stern.

The text is wrong. Or the plan. Or both.

4) Moving on it says "The owner deck is the entertainment heart of the Classic 111. The aft section of the deck is also known as the pool deck, because that’s where the eight-meterlong pool is, along with its sitting and sunning areas."  As mentioned aearlier the aft section of this deck only has the split stair heading up while the pool is at the other end.

The text is wrong. Or the plan. Or both.

5) It say's "the central stair with access to the emergency boat decks" but there are no boat decks emergency or otherwise shown on the plan.

The text is wrong. Or the plan. Or both. There are no boats, only escape pods on the middle deck.

It goes on with stuff on the deckplan not matching the description, am I making some horrible mistake here or does the deckplan as shown in the book have only a partial resemblance to the description of where things are located in the text? It seems like they've mixed up parts of the various decks and the terms for the front and rear of the ship or whoever made the deck plan was more interested in making a very nice ship rather than matching the description. I think the 3 decks shown are the control (top), owner (middle) and main (bottom) with the lower deck holding the crew quarters not shown however there's only meant to be 2 people who can sleep on the owner deck which match's the top deck on the plan not the middle one while the sauna that's meant to be on the owners deck is on the bottom most one.

They described a different ship. Most likely the plan was made by an artist with little experience in ship building (Which is to be excused. I don't have any either). Otherwise there should be access to the machine deck as well as some indication how you board that thing if you aren't coming in with a heli or by climbing down to the water level without stairs.

[Senko]

I was thinking that was going to be the explanation, you'll also notice there's no actual way into the cockpit or that room with the big pipes.

Adding a way to board the ship I can do by cribbing it from the vintage one earlier in the thread I just need to figure out what can and can't be changed, troublesome. I thought the smaller rooms were bedrooms as well. As I said I don't mind something made by someone with no experience in ship building I don't have it either but I really wish the writers of text and drawers of pictures would at least double check they've got the same thing.

[Aryeonos]

I was thinking that was going to be the explanation, you'll also notice there's no actual way into the cockpit or that room with the big pipes.

Adding a way to board the ship I can do by cribbing it from the vintage one earlier in the thread I just need to figure out what can and can't be changed, troublesome. I thought the smaller rooms were bedrooms as well. As I said I don't mind something made by someone with no experience in ship building I don't have it either but I really wish the writers of text and drawers of pictures would at least double check they've got the same thing.

Since gun haven I've learned to just ignore the art. It doesn't really seem like they're even trying anymore.

[CitizenJoe]

Seriously, just Google mega yacht deck plans and use them.  The price doesn't really matter because a player will never afford one.