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« Reply #60 on: (13:59:59/03-15-16) »
Isn't there a cylinder fed gl in gun haven 3?

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« Reply #61 on: (16:49:40/07-05-16) »
((I am cross posting this in both official errata and Missions forums as this is for a Missions character, but should also be noted for official errata))

Found a couple of oversights for the Flame Bracer exotic weapon. Hard Targets P184

A: There's no mention of ranges.

B: There's no mention of ammo cost/availability.

Also, it seems like in the table on P187 Ares Monotip Arrows and Seeker Shafts might have the costs swapped?
Ares Monotip Arrows are basically an arrow head, yet have a (Rating x) cost, while Seeker Shafts have a flat cost going against standard arrows, injection arrows and static shafts all having (Rating x) costs.
...as to the Monotip arrows, I think about about that.  Makes more sense to me that the Seeker Shafts would be based on arrow rating. 300¥ for a rating 10 arrow that only grants -2 AP is a bit steep (like 3 times as expensive as a Depleted Uranium round.).

I thought it was a misprint and was supposed to be "30¥ + Rating" like the arrowheads in R & G.
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« Reply #62 on: (17:53:33/07-05-16) »
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« Reply #63 on: (20:11:49/07-06-16) »
Sphinx, you're the real MVP :P
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« Reply #64 on: (20:54:02/07-06-16) »
Sphinx, you're the real MVP :P
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« Reply #65 on: (21:49:36/07-06-16) »
nice work Sphinx

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« Reply #66 on: (11:23:20/08-23-16) »
Hey Guys

The German "Hard Targets" finally came out and for those interested, "electronic firing" is now an internal mod, not a barrel one anymore.
On top of that, the current stats for spellblades are now:
"The Damage done by Spellblades is physical. The damage code is Force + Netto success on the attack role with a meleeweapon skill of his choice. Accuracy is equal to force, reach is 1. AP is equal to the Force of the spell, minus 1."

Flame Bracers use Taser ranges, ammo cost is 100 Nuyen  / 10 Shots, Availability is 8F.

Pricing for the seekershaft is [Rating of the Bow] x 30 Nuyen, Mono-Arrows cost 45 Nuyen a piece.
If you remember anything else that was unclear, feel free to ask, I'll look through the book if there are answers.
And no, before you ask, Ammo Swap is still an underbarrel mod, somebody screwed up at Pegasus...

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« Reply #67 on: (11:31:11/08-23-16) »
Someone needs to change Sphinx's title from "Chummer" to "Errata God".
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« Reply #68 on: (13:39:33/08-23-16) »
Hey Guys

The German "Hard Targets" finally came out and for those interested, "electronic firing" is now an internal mod, not a barrel one anymore.
On top of that, the current stats for spellblades are now:
"The Damage done by Spellblades is physical. The damage code is Force + Netto success on the attack role with a meleeweapon skill of his choice. Accuracy is equal to force, reach is 1. AP is equal to the Force of the spell, minus 1."

Flame Bracers use Taser ranges, ammo cost is 100 Nuyen  / 10 Shots, Availability is 8F.

Pricing for the seekershaft is [Rating of the Bow] x 30 Nuyen, Mono-Arrows cost 45 Nuyen a piece.
If you remember anything else that was unclear, feel free to ask, I'll look through the book if there are answers.
And no, before you ask, Ammo Swap is still an underbarrel mod, somebody screwed up at Pegasus...

Excellent, I've been waiting very much for that translation
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« Reply #69 on: (01:20:59/04-28-18) »
Hey Guys

The German "Hard Targets" finally came out and for those interested, "electronic firing" is now an internal mod, not a barrel one anymore.
On top of that, the current stats for spellblades are now:
"The Damage done by Spellblades is physical. The damage code is Force + Netto success on the attack role with a meleeweapon skill of his choice. Accuracy is equal to force, reach is 1. AP is equal to the Force of the spell, minus 1."

Flame Bracers use Taser ranges, ammo cost is 100 Nuyen  / 10 Shots, Availability is 8F.

Pricing for the seekershaft is [Rating of the Bow] x 30 Nuyen, Mono-Arrows cost 45 Nuyen a piece.
If you remember anything else that was unclear, feel free to ask, I'll look through the book if there are answers.
And no, before you ask, Ammo Swap is still an underbarrel mod, somebody screwed up at Pegasus...

Forceblade and Manablade both should have had the base damage be equal to successes in the spellcasting test and of course limited by force as usual. Then have this damage increased by net hits.
The damage should have been resisted by body+armor+counterspelling or willpower+counterspelling.
The only reason to add armor to powerblade is because it affects physical objects, and so doesn't just pass through the armor. powerblade should be also given ap of force.

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« Reply #70 on: (12:23:14/08-08-18) »
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... A traditional style bow can be designed to be collapsible, requiring a Complex Action to assemble. Cost for this modification is an additional 50 nuyen per point of Rating.
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This doesn't actually detail the mechanical benefits for the modification. Nor is it entirely clear whether it's referring to the Rating of the bow, or of the modification.

Add a concealability modifier (and size description?) for collapsible bows.
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« Reply #71 on: (20:25:27/08-08-18) »
I can't answer the collapsible bow question RAW or RAI, but I can say that a player at my table has one (we allowed the motorized add) and we ruled that it collapses down to heavy pistol size.  She carries it in a sholder rig.

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« Reply #72 on: (03:23:54/08-09-18) »
I always imagined the collapsible bow as the example given in the Avengers when Hawkeye readies his bow. It collapses down to the size of a small case (about a foot by 6 inches). And it already readies in a Complex Action, so I'm not sure how motorizing it would help...

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« Reply #73 on: (03:44:08/08-09-18) »
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... A traditional style bow can be designed to be collapsible, requiring a Complex Action to assemble. Cost for this modification is an additional 50 nuyen per point of Rating.
- 197

This doesn't actually detail the mechanical benefits for the modification. Nor is it entirely clear whether it's referring to the Rating of the bow, or of the modification.

Add a concealability modifier (and size description?) for collapsible bows.

well, you buy a bow by its rating. There is no mention that "collapsible" has a rating system. it sounds more like like a yes/no thing to me. There fore, the $50 x (rating) would refer to the rating of the bow. It also doesn't list a bonus for collapsing your bow, other then it takes time to assemble again (yay!) So i would agree something seems missing on this end of that purchase.
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« Reply #74 on: (12:14:47/08-09-18) »
Add a concealability modifier (and size description?) for collapsible bows.

Well, you buy a bow by its rating. There is no mention that "collapsible" has a rating system. it sounds more like like a yes/no thing to me. There fore, the $50 x (rating) would refer to the rating of the bow. It also doesn't list a bonus for collapsing your bow, other then it takes time to assemble again (yay!) So i would agree something seems missing on this end of that purchase.

Comparing the benefits for other collapsing weapons (see Concealability Modifiers table, SR5 p.420, for reference):
  • The Extendable Baton (SR5 p.422) goes from +2 when extended to 0 when collapsed.
  • The Telescoping Staff (SR5 p.422) goes from "not concealable" (+10) to "stun baton size" (+2) when collapsed.
  • The Krime Bill (Street Lethal p.18) goes from "not concealable" (+10) to +4 when collapsed.
  • The Cavalier Flash machine pistol (Street Lethal p.34) goes from 0 to -2 when collapsed.
  • The Collapsible Scythe (Hard Targets p.183) goes from "not concealable" (+10) to 0 when collapsed (or -4 to see the blade).
  • The Victorinox Collapsible Hatchet (Hard Targets p.179) says it folds down to "pocket size." Assume from baton size (+2) to commlink size (-4).
  • The Cougar Collapsible Spear (Hard Targets p.179-180) says it appears to be a "standard, fixed-blade knife." Assume from spear (+10) to knife (-2).
  • The PSK-3 Collapsible Heavy Pistol (Run & Gun p.32) says it's "barely larger than a wallet." Assume from heavy pistol (0) to commlink size (-4).
  • The PPSK-4 Collapsible Machine Pistol (Run & Gun p.34) says it's an "innocuous-looking box." Assume from machine pistol (+2) to flash-pak size (-2).

In the absence of a specific explanation in the weapon description, I'd guess that a "collapsible" firearm moves two steps down the table, while a melee or projectile weapon moves three steps down. E.g., from bow size (+8) to baton size (+2).