[Head Hunter]

Low - 300; Mid - 400; High - 500; -- Should a person go any higher than 500Bp? o_o

--Head Hunter

[Kot]

You mean Build Points?

[Head Hunter]

Yes.. Sorry. Should a person go over 500Bp? Or should it remain as is?



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[Kot]

Over 500 BP why? I mean, if you want to have a Prime Runner campaign, then why not. But other than that? I don't see why they should. Yes, there is never enough BP's to spend, but that's what makes the character creation and development processes so appealing. You get to create a runner an play him through from the very beginning, watching his skills/attributes/other stuff go up as he gets better and better... And you get to decide how that happens. So as for me, nope, no BP 500+ characters beyond Prime Runner npc's. That spoils a lot of fun.

[Head Hunter]

That is very true. I was just wondering how far the numbers went. (: Thanks for the input.

[FastJack]

Technically, you can give them as many BP as you want during character creation. However, if I start characters off with 1000+ BP, they will run into Lofwyr in their dealings.

[Chaemera]

I want to see the 100 BP game... Talk about street level, you're probably playing middle-school kids.

[Kot]

Just getting all attributes (besides Edge, for a Human character) costs 80 points. So, a 100 BP character would be elementary school, or kindergarten age kid.

[The_Gun_Nut]

Huh?  What do you mean?  The first point of an attribute is always free.  If they have a racial bonus (human Edge, elf Agility + Charisma, et.) then that gets figured in, as well.  But baseline stats are always free.

[FastJack]

Also, if you build a 100 BP character, the most you could spend on attributes is 50.

[Chaemera]

Huh?  What do you mean?  The first point of an attribute is always free.  If they have a racial bonus (human Edge, elf Agility + Charisma, et.) then that gets figured in, as well.  But baseline stats are always free.

I think he means buying all attributes up one point above baseline.

[Kot]

I left out "to two points". Sorry, got distracted a bit. Seems like one of my players is still interested in the SR campaign. One...

[etherial]

Low - 300; Mid - 400; High - 500; -- Should a person go any higher than 500Bp? o_o

--Head Hunter

I wouldn't bother with anything over 500 BP. At that point, the the power curve difference between BP and Karma is so huge that you're much better off using Karmagen.

[Glyph]

Build points are more scalable at the lower end than karmagen, but at the higher end, you need to start adding additional things to it - such as higher Availability, more that can be spent on gear, and so on.  Otherwise, you will have a disproportionate number of awakened characters.  They will get everything they want and have points left over, so they will go "Hey, I'll make this guy an adept."

Most high-level games with prime runners  use 400-500 build points, then add some karma on top of that.  This lets the players do things like initiations, raising additional skills to 5 or 6, and so on.  Because going over 500 points, you are typically creating upper echelon runners.

[Bradd]

@Glyph: Yeah, my group does that. We keep a running total of karma and cash earned, so that players can build new PCs roughly equivalent to the current ones. It also helps me double-check that the karma and cash roughly follow the karmagen formula, so that karma-heavy and cash-heavy builds keep pace with each other.