[The_Gun_Nut]

You can do whatever you want, but there are other people at the table.  What if they don't want superheroes in their high tech/low life game?

If you want to do the whole superhero thing, that's fine.  It won't work for everyone, and it isn't exactly canon for SR (nor, as I pointed out, good for the character's health).

[FastJack]

All this reminds me of a d20 Modern game I was in a few years back. Basically, the GM had written it up that the "dark forces" were leaking into our world and our characters were normal people that had to suddenly deal with the extraordinary (undead mostly, but it wasn't a zombie game).

I came into the game late, but I had built a great concept: I was a young Bruce Wayne that was still going about in his training. Now, using just the rules in the d20 Modern book, I had plotted out the course of what was needed to get him to the modern-Batman level -- and I needed 90 levels for it.

Still, we were playing around level 10 and it was fun when the Succubus tried to "convince" me to give up my teammates. And, true to form, good ol' Bruce rolled natural 20s on all the will saves needed.

[Crimsondude]

People have become very mean on the internet, based on the fact that they don't have to face the person theyr'e degrading. It's rediculous, and keeps me away from any form of chat generally. This forum is the only one I go on, and there are so many cool people here. I think it's awesome. I'm not very technically savvy, so sometimes I come off stupid, and peopl who are super-chatters attack with a fury. Perhaps It's all their pent up aggression because they can't talk that way in real life. Or maybe they get bullied. Idk. But as far as Bull is saying, RPGs are supposed to be FUN. Why can't you do whatever the hell you want in a game? I personally don't go beyond what I can reason. But how different is a tallented runner than Batman?

Well, like I said, I was that guy Bull mentioned. But things change. People change. I stopped playing SR for a couple of years because I viscerally hated what it had become. And yet here I am stating in the OP "SR is Awesome Town, Population: You." The 2005 me would've thought I had a stroke.

Anyway, yeah. I agree with you. If it's not fun, it's not worth doing. I just watched the new trailer for Sucker Punch and thought "Oh, I can top that." I actually have a metaplanar adventure idea that makes that trailer and Harlequin's Back look pretty tame. Argh... I wish I could say more.

You can do whatever you want, but there are other people at the table.  What if they don't want superheroes in their high tech/low life game?

If you want to do the whole superhero thing, that's fine.  It won't work for everyone, and it isn't exactly canon for SR (nor, as I pointed out, good for the character's health).

You had me until here.

I never intended for some of my campaigns to look more like Mutants & Masterminds than CP2020, but I don't regret it. The same way superhero books can be more than just guys in tights punching each other (and ironically, best exemplified in the all-ages books maligned by overgrown 13-year olds as "kid books") the whole point of the OP was that SR allows for some amazing, batshit insane things to happen while you're still running a fun, interesting, productive story. It doesn't take away the drama and character development/movements that occur in a campaign just because at one point the PC is dodging a combat drone while they are flying through downtown Seattle.

But anyway, given the sheer number of storylines and plothooks offered in the books, the only thing about superheroes SR hasn't flat-out offered PCs a chance to do is put on brightly-colored spandex as part of the job spec.

No, wait. They can do that in that urban brawl adventure.

PA sums up my excess verbosity yet again. (And the news post that goes with it expands on that with more ... words...)

[Usda Beph]

Heck they can wear it in a regular adventure too! Even more so becuase it covers up their true identity! Why do you think most runners wear trench coats and crap like that? So long as teh authorities never get a tab on their real face a Runner could go around in a diaper and a ski mask. They'd look silly doing it but the points the same.

[FastJack]

Four words: Form Fitting Body Armor

[Patrick Goodman]

Frank Miller said it best, I think, and it's a quote I use all the time, both in and out of game: "There ain't all that much difference between a long trenchcoat and a cape, anyway."

[Patrick Goodman]

Four words: Form Fitting Body Armor

Learn them. Live them. Love them.

[Patrick Goodman]

Looking back over this thread, I'm seriously considering finding the archive of some of my SR3 NPCs, like Aries and Thunder, and posting them. This is the kind of thing they were made for, though my campaign was a little less "high concept" than some of the stuff that's actually come down the pike. Heck, a privately-run "superhero" team where one of the operatives is a cyberzombie (for all intents and purposes), another is a street mage who believes she died and came back to life, yet another is a deep-cover intelligence agent pretending he got court-martialed to fit into the shadows, and one is a dwarf mage still in love with his vampire ex-wife...that's wacky enough without resorting to some of the "high concept" inherent to SR.

I want to run it again, but I don't really want to use SR4 to do it.

[FastJack]

I'd still like to know why, as they grow older, comic book writers get crazier and crazier... (looking at you, Miller and Moore, with a glance at Stan)

[Usda Beph]

Stan was always crazy!
Thats why heroes like the Beast always got the hot bikini clad babes! Stan was quoted as saying something like, 'the Marvel universe is populated by some of the kinkiest women ever known.'

Pat your group sounds like Out present team, Functionally disfunctional! I love the sould of their personalities!

Form Fitting Body Armor is not 'Yellow Spandex'

[Patrick Goodman]

Pat your group sounds like Out present team, Functionally disfunctional! I love the sould of their personalities!

Patrick, please. I know it's shorter, but it's also something reserved for family and REALLY close friends.

Form Fitting Body Armor is not 'Yellow Spandex'

But it CAN be.

[Crimsondude]

Jack Kirby was the real visionary of the Stan & Jack team.

[hazmat the monstar]

You can do whatever you want, but there are other people at the table.  What if they don't want superheroes in their high tech/low life game?

If you want to do the whole superhero thing, that's fine.  It won't work for everyone, and it isn't exactly canon for SR (nor, as I pointed out, good for the character's health).

Yes. If the others don't agree on it, let it go.

[Nomad Zophiel]

I'd still like to know why, as they grow older, comic book writers get crazier and crazier... (looking at you, Miller and Moore, with a glance at Stan)

I don't know. Grant Morrison seems to have toned down a bit, or at least doesn't place his ideas as squarely in the 8th Dimension anymore. Warren Ellis. . .he's always nuts.

[Critias]

I'd still like to know why, as they grow older, comic book writers get crazier and crazier... (looking at you, Miller and Moore, with a glance at Stan)

Partially, it's that everyone gets crazier as they get older.

Also, I think it's got to do with the nature of the publishing/media business.  You can get away with being crazy, once you're established.  Heck, even outside of publishing, just look at a tenured professor versus an adjunct staff member!  Once you've been in the business -- any business -- for a while, and put down some roots, and become a "name" in your field, you don't have to hold back any more.  Moderation is for folks who are worried about repercussions.