[mtfeeney = Baron]

I'm pretty slow at actually making my character.  Is this a race to post a finished character or does it help that I was the first to respond?     I could throw together a haphazard character, I guess... but then I wouldn't be too happy with it.

[Mirikon]

I'll work up Chikage for karmagen. Never done that before, so this'll be fun. Are you allowing Rigger 4? Because I was going to use the Nadeshiko for this.

[mtfeeney = Baron]

I'll work up Chikage for karmagen. Never done that before, so this'll be fun. Are you allowing Rigger 4? Because I was going to use the Nadeshiko for this.

I hope the answer is yes.  Since I saw that book and your idea for the AI sammy, I've wanted to see it in action.

[Mithlas]

I have a few characters I could bring to this party:
Chikage - An AI Street Samurai. Trust me, it works.

Sakura - A human miko Mystic Adept.

Tamamo-no-Mae - An AI Face. Again, it works, even in meatspace.

Iceblade - Elven combat mage.

Selena - Elf bow adept

Any of your ideas sound interesting - though I presume that the AI concepts would operate primarily out of a drone, probably humanoid? Most of this game will be meatspace, which is why I noted leaning away from AI.

I think Hawk Eye and Night Vision are ones that anyone can take anyway.

Normally maybe, but the reasoning for them now being either SURGE'd or genengineered is related to one of the plots (as well as adding a dose of science/explanation to the qualities). It's not like it's expensive to grab them through equipment, if that's all you're concerned about. Genecrafted doesn't necessarily come with SINer or Records On File, due to off-the-book companies bringing experimentation to the world stage.

I'll work up Chikage for karmagen. Never done that before, so this'll be fun. Are you allowing Rigger 4? Because I was going to use the Nadeshiko for this.

Minus the mimic mod, I don't see a problem with it. You could also get a humanform Evo Orderly with some modifications to remove a few of its limiters - I thought it was directly inspired by a Korean nursing aide robot, and would interpret that as being a humanoid if obvious drone, if that's what you're looking for.

[Aryeonos]

Here's my Naga, variously known as Nidhogg or Kukulkan. The only real difference is that he has 1 point of karma left over from character gen to spend on nuyen, so I'll buy some essentials with it.

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== Info ==
Street Name: Nidhogg
Name: Aaliyah
Movement: 5/20, Swim: 8/20
Karma: 0
Street Cred: 0
Notoriety: 0
Public Awareness: 0
Naga Male
Composure: 11
Judge Intentions: 11
Lift/Carry: 10 (75 kg/50 kg)
Memory: 10
Nuyen: 10

== Attributes ==
BOD: 5
AGI: 3
REA: 5
STR: 5
CHA: 6
INT: 5
LOG: 5
WIL: 5
EDG: 1
MAG: 7

== Derived Attributes ==
Essence:                   6
Initiative:                10
IP:                        1
Astral Initiative:         10
Astral IP:                 3
Matrix Initiative:         5
Matrix IP:                 1
Physical Damage Track:     11
Stun Damage Track:         11

== Active Skills ==
Animal Handling            : 0                      Pool: 4
Animal Training            : 0                      Pool: 4
Archery                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Armorer                    : 0                      Pool: 4
Artisan                    : 1                      Pool: 6
Assensing                  : 4 [Psychometry]        Pool: 9 (11)
Automatics                 : 0                      Pool: 2
Blades                     : 0                      Pool: 2
Climbing                   : 0                      Pool: 4
Clubs                      : 0                      Pool: 2
Computer                   : 0                      Pool: 4
Con                        : 4                      Pool: 13
Counterspelling            : 1 [Combat]             Pool: 8 (10)
Cybercombat                : 0                      Pool: 4
Data Search                : 0                      Pool: 4
Demolitions                : 0                      Pool: 4
Disguise                   : 0                      Pool: 4
Diving                     : 0                      Pool: 4
Dodge                      : 1 [Ranged Combat]      Pool: 6 (
Escape Artist              : 0                      Pool: 2
Etiquette                  : 4                      Pool: 13
First Aid                  : 0                      Pool: 4
Flight                     : 0                      Pool: 4
Forgery                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Gunnery                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Gymnastics                 : 0                      Pool: 2
Hacking                    : 0                      Pool: 4
Heavy Weapons              : 0                      Pool: 2
Infiltration               : 0                      Pool: 2
Instruction                : 0                      Pool: 5
Intimidation               : 0                      Pool: 5
Leadership                 : 4                      Pool: 13
Leadership, Command        : 4                      Pool: 12
Leadership, Direct Fire    : 4                      Pool: 12
Locksmith                  : 0                      Pool: 2
Longarms                   : 0                      Pool: 2
Navigation                 : 0                      Pool: 4
Negotiation                : 4                      Pool: 13
Palming                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Parachuting                : 0                      Pool: 4
Perception                 : 3 [Scent]              Pool: 8 (10)
Pilot Ground Craft         : 0                      Pool: 4
Pilot Watercraft           : 0                      Pool: 4
Pistols                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Riding                     : 0                      Pool: 4
Running                    : 0                      Pool: 4
Shadowing                  : 0                      Pool: 4
Spellcasting               : 6 [Manipulation]       Pool: 13 (15)
Summoning                  : 1                      Pool: 8
Survival                   : 0                      Pool: 4
Swimming                   : 0                      Pool: 4
Throwing Weapons           : 0                      Pool: 2
Tracking                   : 0                      Pool: 4
Unarmed Combat             : 2 [Subdual Combat]     Pool: 5 (7)

== Knowledge Skills ==

== Qualities ==
Changeling (Class III SURGE)
Distinctive Style
Extravagant Eyes
Feathers
Flashbacks (Common) (GM Discretion)
Glamour
Magician
Mania/Phobia (Uncommon, Mild) (Phobia of Snakes)
Nocturnal
Records on File (Mitsuhama Computer Technologies)
SINner (Standard) (Evo)
Thermal Sensitivity

== Spells ==
(Tradition: Psionic, Resist Drain with WIL + INT (10))
Alter Memory               DV: (F÷2)+2
Control Thoughts           DV: (F÷2)+2
Deflection                 DV: (F÷2)+1
Hot Potato                 DV: (F÷2)-1
Increase Reflexes          DV: (F÷2)+2
Influence                  DV: (F÷2)+1
Magic Fingers              DV: (F÷2)+1
Mana Bind                  DV: (F÷2)
Mob Mood                   DV: (F÷2)+2
Net                        DV: (F÷2)+3
Orgasm                     DV: (F÷2)-2
Orgy                       DV: (F÷2)

== Critter Powers ==
Armor (Ballistic) (2)
Armor (Impact) (3)
Dual Natured
Guard
Natural Weapon (Bite: DV (STR/2)P, AP 0)
Sapience
Venom

== Lifestyles ==
Street  1 months

== Weapons ==
Unarmed Attack
   Pool: 5   DV: 3S   AP: -   RC: 0
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[All4BigGuns]

I think Hawk Eye and Night Vision are ones that anyone can take anyway.

Normally maybe, but the reasoning for them now being either SURGE'd or genengineered is related to one of the plots (as well as adding a dose of science/explanation to the qualities). It's not like it's expensive to grab them through equipment, if that's all you're concerned about. Genecrafted doesn't necessarily come with SINer or Records On File, due to off-the-book companies bringing experimentation to the world stage.

Mainly said anything on that because the original mention just made it sound like you thought they were SURGE qualities rather than changing something...

[RHat]

I am interested, just haven't had time to review the creation rules yet.

[Mirikon]

I'll work up Chikage for karmagen. Never done that before, so this'll be fun. Are you allowing Rigger 4? Because I was going to use the Nadeshiko for this.

Minus the mimic mod, I don't see a problem with it. You could also get a humanform Evo Orderly with some modifications to remove a few of its limiters - I thought it was directly inspired by a Korean nursing aide robot, and would interpret that as being a humanoid if obvious drone, if that's what you're looking for.

Um, what's wrong with the mimic mod? Because I was going to bump that up to Mimic 3. The whole point of the Nadeshiko is that it is a human-looking anthroform drone. Obvious drone is the exact opposite of what I'm going for.

[Mithlas]

Um, what's wrong with the mimic mod? Because I was going to bump that up to Mimic 3. The whole point of the Nadeshiko is that it is a human-looking anthroform drone. Obvious drone is the exact opposite of what I'm going for.

Took me a while to find Mimic - my printing of Arsenal doesn't have it except for the paragraph on page 139, and my understanding was that it was 14F or something like that availability. Assuming the errata thread on this forum is correct, Mimic Rating 3 would only be availability 9.

With all of the cyborg-izing going on in various parts, walking around looking like you've got cyberlimbs wouldn't necessarily be that hard. A drone would have the same susceptibility to metal detectors, though drones have a significant advantage in their ability to shrug off damage and its effects, granting them a degree of utility, power, and resistance that few other combinations have. What exactly is the concept? I could take a look at a PM on whatever you've got drawn up already if it's already as you want to play it, and see if that's something that fits.

[Mirikon]

Basically, I gave the drone Mimic 3, and a frame upgrade, to make it look like Nadja Daviar. Why? Because the idea of a drone Daviar-clone street samurai makes me smile. Also, the drone's history is that it was a former... relaxation aid that Chikage 'liberated'.

[All4BigGuns]

Basically, I gave the drone Mimic 3, and a frame upgrade, to make it look like Nadja Daviar. Why? Because the idea of a drone Daviar-clone street samurai makes me smile. Also, the drone's history is that it was a former... relaxation aid that Chikage 'liberated'.

So...a sex-bot...

[Mirikon]

Basically, I gave the drone Mimic 3, and a frame upgrade, to make it look like Nadja Daviar. Why? Because the idea of a drone Daviar-clone street samurai makes me smile. Also, the drone's history is that it was a former... relaxation aid that Chikage 'liberated'.

So...a sex-bot...

Modified into a combat drone, yes. Last time I tried it, it ended up being a drone that cost over 180K, including autosofts.

[RHat]

Basically, I gave the drone Mimic 3, and a frame upgrade, to make it look like Nadja Daviar. Why? Because the idea of a drone Daviar-clone street samurai makes me smile. Also, the drone's history is that it was a former... relaxation aid that Chikage 'liberated'.

So...a sex-bot...

So, drone Molly Millions.

[Aryeonos]

Oh good, my Naga bargains in blowjobs, we'll get along great.

[All4BigGuns]

Character I'm working on 'bargains' with a shiv to the kidney