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« Reply #15 on: (15:03:32/01-10-12) »
I'll take a look at 5th when it comes out, not going to outright say no tell I at least see the rules...but honestly, even if the rules are jawdroppingly amazing, and they straighten out their business practices, nothing short of a public appology for 4th edition is going to get me to think of wizards as anything but a crap corporation on the same level as walmart/amazon. Regardless of any of it, it's going to be rather hard for them to beat out Pathfinder/Paizo, least in my mind. The rules and setting are very well done (not perfect mind you, but solid), but the biggest hurdle is the customer service.

Oh, I'll probably look at it, but WotC will have to do some miraculous stuff to ever get a penny of my money again. Especially after they decided to say 'screw what people want' and stop producing PDFs.
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« Reply #16 on: (19:57:51/01-10-12) »
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« Reply #17 on: (20:27:12/01-10-12) »
I want to know where my Transformers G1 RPG is.  :P
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« Reply #18 on: (01:12:18/01-11-12) »
Oh, I'll probably look at it, but WotC will have to do some miraculous stuff to ever get a penny of my money again. Especially after they decided to say 'screw what people want' and stop producing PDFs.

>>>> [ Yes, I can honestly say that what helped save me from experiencing 4E was the lacking ability to buy the books as PDFs.  I have about 30 Shadowrun books and a few other RPG books in my laptop.  I carry them all with me around the world and am able to read and stay active developing my campaign no matter where the shadows take me.  PDF game books are wiz. ] <<<<
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« Reply #19 on: (01:19:34/01-11-12) »
As far as not being able to find 4th ed D&D books on PDF, have none of you heard of Bittorrent?
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« Reply #20 on: (01:24:34/01-11-12) »
As far as not being able to find 4th ed D&D books on PDF, have none of you heard of Bittorrent?
*Cough*  No, none of us have ever heard of any kind of illegal downloads of copyrighted materials at all.  Nothing to see here.   >:(
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« Reply #21 on: (01:47:05/01-11-12) »
As far as not being able to find 4th ed D&D books on PDF, have none of you heard of Bittorrent?
*Cough*  No, none of us have ever heard of any kind of illegal downloads of copyrighted materials at all.  Nothing to see here.   >:(

However, as far as I'm aware, and of course depending on your jurisdiction, many places will allow you a legal "digital backup" of a legally licensed/purchased Intellectual Property that was acquired in DTF or CPF (Circular Plastic Format); a precedent set when people began ripping .MP3s off their CDs and playing them on their computers.

Aka, if you have the book you can legally scan it into a PDF yourself, or take the shortcut and download a digitization that another legal purchaser has so generously provided for his fellow legal purchasers' convenience.

The fact that evil scoundrels, who have not paid the rightful owners for the rights to use the product, latch onto this generous attempt at the aiding of a perfectly legal endeavor is a sad byproduct of the dishonesty inherent in human nature.
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« Reply #22 on: (01:54:36/01-11-12) »
Hey, I buy my Shadowrun PDFs. For other systems, I check out a PDF, and if I like it, I'll grab a legal copy. Otherwise, I delete, and move on, not having shelled out good cred on bad merchandise.
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« Reply #23 on: (01:57:32/01-11-12) »
As far as not being able to find 4th ed D&D books on PDF, have none of you heard of Bittorrent?


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« Reply #24 on: (13:08:09/01-11-12) »
Pathfinder PDFs are one of the main reasons I'm able to stay current with the Pathfinder rules. Of course, I'm spoiled rotten by their low cost/high quality, which makes purchasing Shadowrun PDFs very painful at times. I'll still get all the ones I'm interested in, it's just a much much slower process.

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« Reply #25 on: (22:41:41/01-11-12) »
I dunno what's worse, the fact that I can't seem to escape this news no matter what board or forum I go to, or that the 3aboos are getting more bold.
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« Reply #26 on: (23:52:38/01-11-12) »
DND 3.5E is to "competitive algebra"

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DND 4E is to "pretty pictures for twelve year-old recluses."

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No way did you say that, nearly every time I talk of the scourge of RPGs I say marketing towards fucking twelve year olds ruined the game I grew up on and every person that thought version four was a good idea for the players was a liar and I could rant and rant but I wish they would make a public apology for version 4
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« Reply #27 on: (08:15:42/01-12-12) »
Okay, before we start stoking any flames here, let's remember that a) it's just a game and b) this is a Shadowrun forum. If this turns into any type of "Edition Wars", I'll lock the thread.

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« Reply #28 on: (10:04:37/01-12-12) »
Quote from: From the article posted by OP
And if the publishers are wondering which customers to listen to, they might want to pay special attention to boys aged 13-17.

Yes...

this bodes well.

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« Reply #29 on: (19:36:36/01-12-12) »
DND 3.5E is to "competitive algebra"

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DND 4E is to "pretty pictures for twelve year-old recluses."

P.S. - Damn 12 year-olds, ruining America. :P
No way did you say that, nearly every time I talk of the scourge of RPGs I say marketing towards fucking twelve year olds ruined the game I grew up on and every person that thought version four was a good idea for the players was a liar and I could rant and rant but I wish they would make a public apology for version 4

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