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Whiskeyjack

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« Reply #15 on: (08:21:28/11-12-15) »
I think they just don't have the right vocal cords.

Easily solved with AR texts.
Playability > verisimilitude.

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« Reply #16 on: (08:33:34/11-12-15) »
Yup, in which case what IS the disadvantage for being much better than trolls?

Extras -
+1 Body
Higher limits for Agilty, Logic, Intuition, Charisma
Claws
Mimicry
Dual Natured
No +100% lifestyle costs

Downsides -
Uneducated (for those wanting to play against type to buy off)
No Thermographic vision (w/o cheap tech)
Dual Natured
Only +1 reach with natural weapons
No +1 dermal armour
20 Karma cost (not with point buy)

At Troll/Sasquatch Body levels, the +1 Body outweighs 20 Karma plus buying off uneducated in Karma cost.

Halinn

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« Reply #17 on: (12:06:49/11-12-15) »
I think they just don't have the right vocal cords.

Easily solved with AR texts.

No, their entire species thing is that they can't comprehend the concept of spoken language.

Whiskeyjack

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« Reply #18 on: (12:11:07/11-12-15) »
I think they just don't have the right vocal cords.

Easily solved with AR texts.

No, their entire species thing is that they can't comprehend the concept of spoken language.
Which doesn't mean they can't text.

Playability > verisimilitude.

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« Reply #19 on: (13:02:16/11-12-15) »
Yes it does, speech centers in the brain determine how you form language.
That's why a dolphin can't text.
A Sasquatch would just stare at you as you chatted to him, not understanding anything you said.
I don't know how one could operate as a runner when you're trying to convey complicated and nuanced plans.
It's just a no go imho.
You could convey simple stuff by pointing and perhaps making faces but that hardly gets to the nut of detailed srunner plans.

But yeah, many of the metatypes in run faster should have lifestyle cost overheads.
The designers just forgot it was a thing.

Another reason why our table doesn't permit them.
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« Reply #20 on: (13:12:03/11-12-15) »
They use sign language, and it's not hard to convert that into a form more easily understood by the average person.

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« Reply #21 on: (14:25:54/11-12-15) »
Well sign language would leave a lot to be desired when it comes to navigating the modern world.

Nonetheless sign language has been shown to engage the language centers of the brain in much the same way that normal language does.
So if a Sasquatch can sign he likely has the capability to be able to understand and build language (i.e. text and read).

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« Reply #22 on: (14:43:34/11-12-15) »
You could convey simple stuff by pointing and perhaps making faces but that hardly gets to the nut of detailed srunner plans.
Because we all know how well all that planning goes sometimes so maybe making faces isn't so bad.  ::)

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« Reply #23 on: (14:52:23/11-12-15) »
Sasquatches explicitly can learn sign language, but like with far too many things from 5e, and Run Faster is a big offender in this regard, we have to look at the 4e equivalent book to find where it's written out rather than implied or forgotten.

Quote from: Runner's Companion p. 66
they appear to lack the ability to comprehend metahuman speech as a form of communication, preventing them from learning spoken metahuman language; interspecies communication is usually accomplished with sign languages.

Quote from: Runner's Companion p. 84
Linguasofts are very valuable for sasquatches, as sign-to-speech, sign-to-text, text-to-sign, and speech-to-sign patches can be easily downloaded for free from the Matrix. This means a sasquatch can use AR gloves with an appropriate linguasoft to translate their sign language into relevant text or computer-generated speech for the language on the linguasoft.
If the sasquatch has an image link and the appropriate linguasoft, any text they see or speech they hear in the language can be translated into animated sign language in their image link. This enables erudite, tech-savvy sasquatches to “speak” to other metahumans without much trouble.

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« Reply #24 on: (16:51:38/11-12-15) »
Excellent stuff Halinn, one wonders why Catalyst shovels so much of the borked text from 4e into 5e but omits so much of the important stuff.
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« Reply #25 on: (16:55:52/11-12-15) »
Excellent stuff Halinn, one wonders why Catalyst shovels so much of the borked text from 4e into 5e but omits so much of the important stuff.
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Obviously to encourage purchase of their older books.

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« Reply #26 on: (12:27:28/11-13-15) »
I just want to know if the exclusion of the old restrictions like 'no cyberware for metasapients' was intentional or just an oversight.

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« Reply #27 on: (18:19:25/11-13-15) »
I just want to know if the exclusion of the old restrictions like 'no cyberware for metasapients' was intentional or just an oversight.

I tend to believe the exclusion was intentional.
Talk with your GM about how much more cyberware or bioware would cost, assuming you can find a doc that understands the metavariant's physical nature well enough to do the work.