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Title: History of the Sixth World
Post by: FastJack on (11:00:37/12-28-11)
After reading a couple other threads, I realized that many of the posters and players on the forums here don't have the encyclopaedic knowledge of the sixth world that Bull, Wakshaani, Wyrm, myself and other old-timers have. So, here's this thread.

The rules:

1) This is NOT a discussion thread. Opinions, suggestions, etc. will not be kept and, most likely deleted from the thread.
2) If you have a bit of history that you want to share, put it here. Just post what you know and any sources, if you have them.
3) If you have a question about anything, post it here. When responding to the question, make sure you quote the original post in your post so it will be easier to find.
4) Don't get carried away. If something is not canon, or you don't have the sources where you think you saw it, make a not of it in your post. Either we can track down the source or declare it apocryphal.
5) If anything is from a source that is recent (within six months of when you're posting), PLEASE use spoiler tags!!

Enjoy!

Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: FastJack on (11:01:17/12-28-11)
Here's the first bit, copied from Wakshaani's response on the survivors of the Echo Mirage team. I know that this is fact, and in one of the books. As soon as I can track down exactly where, I'll post it.

Alice Haeffner was killed in action against the Crash Virus, but either became the first E-Ghost or the Virus absorbed her personality and made itself into a copy of her ... the jury was never able to say for certain on this one. Regardless, the Matrix entity Alice of Wonderland vanished in Crash 2.0, seemingly destroyed, along with Wonderland.

"Buddy" made it out of the Crash Virus alive, but with a wide array of psycotropic issues. He never recovered, and finally died in 2050. Until his death, he was active as a decker in the shadows. (Possibly an old writer's PC? Dunno.)

Major David Gavilan was the officer in charge of the project. He became Damien Knight.

Ken Roper and Michael Eld left the military and got themselves a start-up company (Matrix Systems)and  producing the world's first commercial deck. Villers bought into the company (But they would only allow him to have 49% of it), then the two both died in "accidents" and all their research was destroy in a mysterious fire. Villers showed up a week later with copies of their work, prototypes of their Cyberdecks, and had assumed full control of the company after their deaths. He leveraged this into one-third ownership of Fuchi.

Keith "The Suit" Hannigan worked for Fuchi, but was snatched by Mitsuhama Computer Technologies in 2046 and hasn't been seen since. (hmmm...)

Erica "Static" Rutledge became a Shadowrunner.

These are, to my knowledge, the only ones who made it out of there. Lucien Cross is connected to Knight's Nanosecond Buyout, wich had to have had some kind of cyberdeck tech behind it, but I don't *think* he was ever outed as a member of Echo Mirage. More likely he was a tech head that Gavilan recruited, brought to a secret underground bunker, and went, "See this? This s the best computer in the entire world. It can do thing sthat you can only dream of. It's yours, if you do me a favor first..."


UPDATE
Keith "The Suit" Hannigan and Erica "Static" Rutledge both had their profiles posted in Virtual Realities, the 1st Edition SR sourcebook for all things decking (FASA 07107, published 1991).

Ken Roper and Michael Eld are mentioned in Matrix, the 3rd Edition Shadowrun (FASA 7909, published 2000) book on decking.

Damien and Alice are "suggested" to be Gavilan and Alice Haeffner in Corporate Download (FASA 7125, published 1999). The Nanosecond Buyout is also discussed here, as well as in Portfolio of a Dragon.

As for Buddy, I'm still searching.

Update 2: CanRay informs me that Buddy's story is in the novel 2XS.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Wakshaani on (16:03:27/12-28-11)
If anyone has requests...
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Mirikon on (16:12:59/12-28-11)
If anyone has requests...
Bios for Captain Chaos, Dodger, Fastjack, and Hatchetman.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Bull on (17:05:55/12-28-11)
Short Versions:

Captain Chaos - Neo-Anarchist, moderator for Shadowland during mid-1st edition, I think.  (the original moderator just posted as Sys0p, IIRC).  Not much is actually known about Cap outside fo his duties with Shadowland.  He was given an encrypted program call "JackBNimble" in Dunklezahn's will.  He died during Crash 2.0, but the JackBNimble program activated and may have "Saved" a backup copy of Cap.  this is just a rumor at this time.

Fastjack - One of the oldest and most skilled deckers, Jack was born in 1999, and during the Awakening received a message on his old Mac Firestorm computer from someone named Saelatra that said "Good morning world. Welcome back. Play nice." What or who Saelatra is has never been revealed.  Jack got used as a rules example a bunch in the 1st edition core rulebook.  He invented the Attack Program "Jackhammer".  He's rarely seen in the flesh, and his matrix icon is a human male figure that's constantly "blurred" so that none of it's features are recognizable.  After the Crash 2.0 and the death of Captain Chaos and Shadowland, he gathered a group of interesting runners (and a few non-runners) and started up Jackpoint.  he may have a daughter named Perri, who runs the shadows as Skald.

Dodger -- Dodger is a bit more complicated, since Dodger featured heavily in a bunch of early SR novels and later ina  couple plotlines.  Dodger is an elven decker who took his name from the Charles Dickens' novel Oliver Twist (and often speaks witha  bit of archaic old English).  He was part of a runner team with an ork named Kham, a mage named Sally Tsung, a street samurai named Ghost Who Walks Inside, and later a decker/shaman named Sam Verner (Who Dodger names Twist).  Dodger discovered an AI hidden in Renraku's Seattle mainframe named Morgan and fell in love with it.  Renraku captured Morgan, but Dodger rescued her, but she was damaged by Renraku dissecting her code to figure out how she worked.  Dodger and Morgan (Now calling herself Magaera) ended up fighting against Renraku and later Deus.  I'm not certain of Dodger's 4th edition status off hand, as I don't think he's been mentioned.

hatchetman - Hatchetman was a street samurai and regular Shadowland poster.  He is featured in the In Game fiction for the 2nd edition SR book Cybertechnology where he gets implants and becomes one of th first Cyberzombies.  It is generally assumed that he is long since dead, as Cyberzombies don't have a long life expectancy in the first place and the 1st generation 'zombies were even worse (6 months to a year at best).

Bull
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Crimsondude on (17:18:00/12-28-11)
Cap's first appearance was, I believe, in NAN vol. 1. He acts like a sysop in NAN, and he definitely serves as the "host" of Neo-Anarchist's Guide to Real Life (products 7202 and 7208 respectively) though it's not explicitly stated that he's a sysop. He's identified as one in Denver.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Bull on (17:30:38/12-28-11)
Thanks James.  I wasn't certain exactly when he started posting regularly, just that he wasn't in the first few books.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Longshot23 on (02:54:32/01-01-12)
Cap may have been - there was someone called 'Control' in the earliest books.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (22:13:07/01-05-12)
"Buddy" made it out of the Crash Virus alive, but with a wide array of psycotropic issues. He never recovered, and finally died in 2050. Until his death, he was active as a decker in the shadows. (Possibly an old writer's PC? Dunno.)

Keith "The Suit" Hannigan worked for Fuchi, but was snatched by Mitsuhama Computer Technologies in 2046 and hasn't been seen since. (hmmm...)

Erica "Static" Rutledge became a Shadowrunner.
Keith "The Suit" Hannigan and Erica "Static" Rutledge both had their profiles posted in Virtual Realities, the 1st Edition SR sourcebook for all things decking (FASA 07107, published 1991).

Update 2: CanRay informs me that Buddy's story is in the novel 2XS.

Couple of things.

First, Buddy is not a 'him', but a 'her'.  She was a neurology student and researcher at the University of Washington, wound up with bipolar disorder, and was killed by Black IC in '2XS', which (though I originally thought was concurrent to the UB adventure 'Missing Blood') is actually in 2052, and plays with CrashCart -- which Yamatetsu buys up after the 2XS debacle.  She is whom I was thinking about before -- and we never get her actual name, so far as I could discover.

Second, I'd forgotten that both Hannigan and Rutledge have their profiles in the original Virtual Realities -- or, more accurately, in the short story about Rennie and Dr. Halberstam that is the second half of it.  Both the Suit and Static were part of the Echo Mirage tech team.

Which means that we have only one example (Buddy) as to what the Crash virus did to people who weren't left as total vegetables -- and, actually, the one person whom we know for certain was an EM decker.

In my personal opinion, that makes for one commander (Gavilan/Knight), four techs (Hannigan, Rutledge, Roper, and Eld), and one decker (Buddy) who made it out alive of whom we know the names, and one (Alice) who died.  I'm not entirely certain whether or not Kyle Haeffner was on the Echo Mirage team in some way; I vaguely remember him being so, but I can't nail down why I think so yet.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: CanRay on (01:11:45/01-06-12)
I don't have time, and am a bit too beat up mentally, to go through 2XS right now (I have two copies for some reason), but IIRC, it was 2051 or 2052 when the book happened.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Bull on (01:57:11/01-06-12)
I really need to get ahold of the novels again *sigh*  Never had a complete collection, but what i did have got ruined in a flood about 6 years ago.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (02:00:28/01-06-12)
I don't have time, and am a bit too beat up mentally, to go through 2XS right now (I have two copies for some reason), but IIRC, it was 2051 or 2052 when the book happened.

2052, as I said.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: CanRay on (10:51:59/01-06-12)
I don't have time, and am a bit too beat up mentally, to go through 2XS right now (I have two copies for some reason), but IIRC, it was 2051 or 2052 when the book happened.
2052, as I said.
And that's why I shouldn't post at 1 AM.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: BlackMyron on (21:10:59/04-27-12)
 The adventure "Missing Blood" from the UB boxed set is indeed set at the same time as 2XS (not surprising, considering the late, lamented Nigel Findley wrote the main UB sourcebook, although not the adventure) - Dirk Montgomery is friends with private eye Patrick Bambra, and cues within the novel and adventure suggest that Dirk visits him while in hiding not too long before the PCs encounter him.

On a related note to the original question in the thread, "Night's Pawn" indicated that some people pegged FastJack as one of the Echo Mirage team, but an authority on the subject said that the rumors were false, as all the 'fates' of the former members were all accounted for and he wasn't one of them.

 As far as Cross, the connection with Knight/Gavilan is that he worked for Acquisition Technologies alongside him.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Wakshaani on (20:25:08/06-22-12)
*bump* Just leaving lunch and heading back to work, but, I have some free time this weekend if anyone else has some history that they want plopped onto a table. I was thinking about a general "The Horrors and Shadowrun" thing, from the Great Ghost Dance to Dunk's death, Oscuro, and today, but I didn't know if anyone really worries about that sort of thing anymore. 
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Mirikon on (21:32:56/06-22-12)
Harlequin still worries about that sort of thing, as do all the old Powers, to varying degrees. ;)
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: wolfrider66 on (01:23:31/09-15-12)
My campaign is taking place in FDC. The players will eventually get involved with Rozilyn Hernandez through a botched assassination attempt in front of their apartment complex. Her motorcade or escort is ambushed, her vehicle disabled and blown open. Her security attachment is toast. She will be the damsel in distress that my newb runners, fresh out of AD&D, won't be able to ignore. They will rush to her aid to find out just how deep a rabbit hole can be as she doesn't remember her name or anything else for that matter. A minute later their news feeds light up with sketchy details of the attack and who she is. Then a Mr. Johnson calls and offers them a job they can't refuse.............to be cont.

That is for the future.  Right now I need to know what caused the Rift at Watergate. Was it Dunkelzahn's assassination? I am also a Shadowrun newb as my Jack Point tag so elegantly states, and although I have alarmed my wife with hundreds of dollars worth of "research" materials (Game books by the dozens lol), I don't seem able to sort that out. I have found tons of rumors on who was there at it's closing, but I might want to play that out with my guys. So I need to know how it started and is there a mission book or something that has it?  :o

wolfrider66
"Make your own luck"
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Wakshaani on (01:46:07/09-15-12)
The in-world talk is that it was some kind of bomb (Some say nuke, others point out that there wasn't enough boom for that) and the assassins have never been caught.

Behind the scenes, Dunk found out that the Horrors were near to coming over way, way early, due to mana spikes from the Great Ghost Dance. Having to act quickly, he used himself as a blood sacrifice, killing himself violently and using that power to take care of business.

It's the Dragonheart trilogy that gives full details, I believe. I read the first one, but never got any further than that.

http://www.amazon.ca/Shadowrun-Dragonheart-Saga-Stranger-Souls/dp/0451456106
http://www.amazon.ca/Shadowrun-Dragonheart-Sage-Clockwork-Asylum/dp/0451456203
http://www.amazon.ca/Shadowrun-Dragon-Heart-Saga-Beyond/dp/0451456742

The novels are a weakpoint of mine, sadly. Lots of stuff went on there that's hinted at in other places, but only really discussed in the novels. The whole Crashcart thing, for instance, which I *still* haven't tracked down. That'll teach me to loan out 2XS, huh? *grumble*
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: CanRay on (02:38:39/09-15-12)
2XS, good book!  I think I have two copies at the moment.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (06:16:59/09-15-12)
The Rift was caused by Dunkelzahn, yes.  In a moment of extreme duress (i.e. he discovered that the Horrors were getting help and were about two days from bridging the gap between their world and ours instead of, you know, a thousand years) he self-immolated.  Certain individuals (*cough* Harlequin *cough*) believe it was a nuke that did the job; I highly doubt it.  Very high level, possibly a unique spell derived from what Dunkelzahn knew of his brother Ghostwalker's ability to, ahh, 'planewalk', yes.  Nuclear, though, no.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: CanRay on (12:13:56/09-15-12)
I think the "It was a NUKE!" thing is in the same vein as "Mama Cass choked to death on a ham sandwich", some WAG stated, "The only way a dragon could have died was due to a nuclear weapon", and it just went from there as gospel, then he was really talking out his hoop.

My money is on a pocket FAE, myself.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Wakshaani on (15:19:47/09-15-12)
I remember when a FAE was used in Desert Storm. Some of the US allies flipped and were, like, "Did you just nuke those guys?!" and teh US military had to be all, "No, no, just a fuel-air bomb. No fallout, you're fine."

The Marines wound up dropping around 250 of 'em, mostly on minefields, where the pressure wave would set 'em all off.

Neat toy.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Crimsondude on (17:14:10/09-15-12)
I think the "It was a NUKE!" thing is in the same vein as "Mama Cass choked to death on a ham sandwich", some WAG stated, "The only way a dragon could have died was due to a nuclear weapon", and it just went from there as gospel, then he was really talking out his hoop.

My money is on a pocket FAE, myself.

It was Mike Mulvihill's (the Shadowrun line developer at the time) explanation on Dumpshock. So it's not quite gospel. However, I seem to recall some characters in Stranger Souls thinking it was, including Daviar (which is probably how Harlequin would "know"). As far as I know it's never been explained in-canon. I know I didn't say for sure what the official cause is in CT because I was already being too clever with "And then Dunkelzahn exploded." :)

It's also reinforced by the run in Super Tuesday where the runners are hired by Carla Brooks (Dunkelzahn's head of security) to do a Simsense run where they are to rig a shoebox-sized "recording device" to the bottom of another presidential candidate's (Booth's) limo. The presumption there is that the only thing that size capable of creating an explosion as powerful as described in PoaD and Stranger Soulsówhich in both is also described as being very powerful but clearly contained by (Dunkelzahn's) magical defensesówould be a miniaturized SADM, AKA a briefcase nuke. Though there is a character in PoaD who gives a gloriously wonkish non-nuke explanation.

There are also references in the online material, though I don't recall offhand if it's in PoaD, about the Gen Con '96 tournament run (when Dunkelzahn bit it in one of the most memorable events in Gen Con history, and PoaD was released) where the runners are serving as security for the Grundland's Cookies Ball at the Watergate and had to stop a group of wendigo shamans in the underground garage from completing a ritual.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Puls3evo on (14:13:27/12-19-12)
Request:

Target: UCAS describes changes made to the Boston MBTA Subway system, and the emergence of the Catacombs. Is there any information on what parts of the T are Active/Black in 207X?

Quote
Target: UCAS, pg 43, The Catacombs
... but nearly all records and maps of the early subway were lost during a fire in the Hall of Records in June '29...
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Bonesinger on (22:13:16/12-24-12)
I would like to know about South America, not just Amazonia and the northern part of the continent.
For instance, what about Chile, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay? Did Brazil split into various separate countries (other than Amazonia) like the USA did?
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: samiam on (23:48:10/02-21-13)
Along the same line...I'm gearing up to start a 2050-based campaign and am looking for a 6th World map in 2050 - any chance of pointing me in the direction of a good source?  The 6th World Almanac is great...is there anything similar for the 1E time frame?  Alternatively, if it exists, a list of border changes from 2050 to 2070s.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Crimsondude on (14:00:38/02-22-13)
Eh ... This is close enough for government work. Though it seems to have been updated to 2062.

http://thor.divnull.com/pub/srun/maps/world2062.pdf
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: samiam on (20:41:15/02-22-13)
Much appreciated, 'dude.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Nath on (18:13:15/02-24-13)
Eh ... This is close enough for government work. Though it seems to have been updated to 2062.

http://thor.divnull.com/pub/srun/maps/world2062.pdf
The map was updated with Year of the Comet (it shows Los Angeles as Pueblo territory) but doesn't include information brought by later books, like Target: Wastelands (Egypt annexed Lybia, not Algeria), Shadows of Europe (Euskalherria is independent, Belgium splits in two, with Wallonia joining France and Flanders joining Netherlands), Dragons of the Sixth World (Sudan mentioned as separate from Egypt), Shadows of Asia (lots of things), Feral Cities (Angola and Tunisia still exist), etc.

Also, it got one thing wrong from Year of the Comet, made clear in Wake of the Comet: Amazonia annexed Guyana, not French Guiana (where is located the Kourou space center).
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Wakshaani on (19:01:36/02-24-13)
Also missing: the Rio Gambit from Dirty Tricks.

I need to go ahead, bite the bullet onmy weak cartography, and post that map.

...

Note to self: Drop a line to Mr Hardy when I get off work.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Nath on (12:04:46/02-25-13)
The Rio Gambit happens after 2062, and so does the Ute annexation by Pueblo, so I wouldn't require them on a map titled "world2062". I was mentioning information from books published after Year of the Comet. Those books thus are set after 2061, but those information should have already appeared on a map in 2062.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Coi on (06:57:32/08-06-13)
Along the same line...I'm gearing up to start a 2050-based campaign and am looking for a 6th World map in 2050 - any chance of pointing me in the direction of a good source?  The 6th World Almanac is great...is there anything similar for the 1E time frame?  Alternatively, if it exists, a list of border changes from 2050 to 2070s.
The second ed core rulebook came with a map that is labled: '(most of) north america' and second ed was 2053. I only have it in hard copy I'm afraid. But it shouldn't be too hard to find now that you have a name to search for ;)
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Tzeentch on (14:20:52/11-11-13)
Good lord that's some serious thread necromancy. For a current map you can use my KMZ to overlay on Google: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mt7x9eoifb0uy39/SR_Nations_LayerToKML.kmz
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Ragnarok on (20:39:28/10-31-16)
I don't recall if it was ever discussed: Did anyone claim responsibility for Dunkelzahn's assassination?
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: EiraHaexa on (20:41:46/10-31-16)
I don't recall if it was ever discussed: Did anyone claim responsibility for Dunkelzahn's assassination?

Not that I'm aware of. I think it's pretty widely known by now that he offed himself to power the Dragonheart.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Sendaz on (21:11:13/10-31-16)
I don't recall if it was ever discussed: Did anyone claim responsibility for Dunkelzahn's assassination?

Not that I'm aware of. I think it's pretty widely known by now that he offed himself to power the Dragonheart.
That's just what his PR people wanted you to think to make it sound more noble.

I heard it was all a testing of a Prototype Microwavable Jiffy Pop Popcorn gone horribly wrong.

The buttery smell at the blast site sort of gave it away.   ;D
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: EiraHaexa on (21:23:36/10-31-16)
I don't recall if it was ever discussed: Did anyone claim responsibility for Dunkelzahn's assassination?

Not that I'm aware of. I think it's pretty widely known by now that he offed himself to power the Dragonheart.
That's just what his PR people wanted you to think to make it sound more noble.

I heard it was all a testing of a Prototype Microwavable Jiffy Pop Popcorn gone horribly wrong.

The buttery smell at the blast site sort of gave it away.   ;D

As a popcorn addict with a nostalgic love for Jiffy Pop, I have to say there are worse ways to go out.  :D
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (02:26:01/11-01-16)
Actually, I believe that in-game it's still a mystery; the Dragonheart isn't a publically-known item, so him suiciding to power it (in the emergency bid to shut down the Aztlan Locus and the Bridge they were creating) would be even less well-known as Harlequin's sending multiple runner teams on astral quests in order to essentially do the same at other spike/bridge points.

Which means that ICly, conspiracy theories no doubt continue to abound.  My personal favorite is the 'military/spook' in the Portfolio.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Mirikon on (09:55:08/11-01-16)
Agreed with Wyrm. There are RUMORS on conspiracy theory sites that say Dunkelzhan killed himself, though the reason for doing that is unknown. Keep in mind, these are the sites that Plan 9 says are a little wacky. Anyone with actual KNOWLEDGE of the facts is far too close to it to go blabbing, either because it hurts their agenda, or it would get them killed.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Rosa on (07:39:00/11-02-16)
Assets inc., Nadja Daviar, Ghostwalker, Aina Dupree, Ehran the Scribe, Harlequin and Lofwyr are probably the only ones that know the full story. Have i forgotten anyone?

Edit: Yes i have. Add Frosty and Talon to the list.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Marzhin on (12:24:15/11-02-16)
Assets inc., Nadja Daviar, Ghostwalker, Aina Dupree, Ehran the Scribe, Harlequin and Lofwyr are probably the only ones that know the full story. Have i forgotten anyone?

Edit: Yes i have. Add Frosty and Talon to the list.

Well you can remove Aina from the list, since she's dead...
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: EiraHaexa on (12:36:08/11-02-16)
Assets inc., Nadja Daviar, Ghostwalker, Aina Dupree, Ehran the Scribe, Harlequin and Lofwyr are probably the only ones that know the full story. Have i forgotten anyone?

Edit: Yes i have. Add Frosty and Talon to the list.

Well you can remove Aina from the list, since she's dead...

Or is she?
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Marzhin on (12:45:46/11-02-16)
Or is she?

Physically, at least, I'm pretty sure she is.
Spiritually, however, that's another question... one I hope the writers will answer eventually.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: EiraHaexa on (12:57:45/11-02-16)
Or is she?

Physically, at least, I'm pretty sure she is.
Spiritually, however, that's another question... one I hope the writers will answer eventually.

Physically, she's six feet under Arran. Spiritually, on the other hand...I've got a feeling that Dunkie's gift of "hope" given to her in his will was more than just a kind gesture.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Sendaz on (15:38:35/11-02-16)
Been toying with a scenario where Ysrthgrathe is literally pulling a Harlequin and putting together a runner team to go retrieve her wayward soul via a metaplanar jaunt, because while he is still a Horror Prick he has a soft spot for Aina and wants her back in the game.
Plus he knows it will grate on her nerves to no end knowing that he had aided her so.

He would do it himself, but something is interfering with his link to Aina.  He can still sense her, but not much more, so he is looking to use some tracking magicks.
Plus he suspects she may be in realms that he won't be able to enter himself.
While he can't enter the physical realm at present, he can still yank on the strings of one of his puppets to have them handle recruiting and organizing the runners. 

Of course this will not go unnoticed by certain parties, especially when the runners raid the property she left to Harlequin who had left it pretty much exactly the way she left it as a tribute to her memory.  Hilarity is sure to follow and the runners may need to think and talk quick on their feet to make the best of the situation.


Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Dwagonzhan on (18:35:34/11-02-16)
Or is she?

Physically, at least, I'm pretty sure she is.
Spiritually, however, that's another question... one I hope the writers will answer eventually.

As long as it isn't as weird or ambiguous as how they answered Dunklezhan's "death".
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: EiraHaexa on (19:46:49/11-02-16)
Been toying with a scenario where Ysrthgrathe is literally pulling a Harlequin and putting together a runner team to go retrieve her wayward soul via a metaplanar jaunt, because while he is still a Horror Prick he has a soft spot for Aina and wants her back in the game.
Plus he knows it will grate on her nerves to no end knowing that he had aided her so.

He would do it himself, but something is interfering with his link to Aina.  He can still sense her, but not much more, so he is looking to use some tracking magicks.
Plus he suspects she may be in realms that he won't be able to enter himself.
While he can't enter the physical realm at present, he can still yank on the strings of one of his puppets to have them handle recruiting and organizing the runners. 

Of course this will not go unnoticed by certain parties, especially when the runners raid the property she left to Harlequin who had left it pretty much exactly the way she left it as a tribute to her memory.  Hilarity is sure to follow and the runners may need to think and talk quick on their feet to make the best of the situation.

I've been playing with the idea that she knew her actions at the rift would end her life, and sacrificed herself deliberately to free herself from Yrsgrathe for good. I like to think her actions caused her to transform into something, and Harlequin would very much like to know what that something is.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Crimsondude on (22:20:05/11-02-16)
Hmm.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: EiraHaexa on (22:34:23/11-02-16)
Hmm.

A nuyen for your thoughts?
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Sendaz on (08:41:47/11-03-16)
Hmm.
Tease :P
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Crimsondude on (20:30:25/11-03-16)
I don't know shit. I just know what ideas I threw around when I was still in the writing pool.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (01:01:33/11-04-16)
*sighs*  I really need to dive back in there ... or else get my own shit done.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Rosa on (07:05:44/11-24-16)
A clutch of Dragons - "The Things we do for love" part two ( page 149 ) certainly adds to this idea that we haven't heard the last of Aina, i just hope they actually pick up on it at some point.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Wakshaani on (10:09:38/11-24-16)
Aina is not forgotten.

Watch the skies.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Ragnarok on (12:09:21/12-03-16)
Aina is not forgotten.

Watch the skies.

While I haven't read A Clutch of Dragons, am I right to assume that Aina is a dragon?
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: MijRai on (12:31:15/12-03-16)
Aina Dupree was (is?) an Immortal Elf, not a Dragon. 
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: EiraHaexa on (15:27:55/12-05-16)
Aina Dupree was (is?) an Immortal Elf, not a Dragon.

And the mother of Thais, and Harlequin's lover for centuries, and..and...and...
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Ragnarok on (00:56:55/12-06-16)
Aina Dupree was (is?) an Immortal Elf, not a Dragon.

Thank you for clarifying that info for me.  I always thought that she was an elf, but I wasn't completely sure.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Opti on (14:05:24/05-09-17)
If you are watching the skies, you won't see her. If you are looking elsewhere, though... you may have seen her already.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: EiraHaexa on (14:48:51/05-09-17)
If you are watching the skies, you won't see her. If you are looking elsewhere, though... you may have seen her already.

What? *looks all over* Where?
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Opti on (01:42:37/05-10-17)
That would be telling. But you won't find her by looking for her by name...
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (18:50:37/05-17-17)
Ommmm .....
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Neojudas on (22:35:10/04-05-18)
Just upstarting this.  Always wanted a better timeline software/application to track this stuff.  I miss Lester Wards (ie; Wordmans) material and time he used to have in the game.
Title: Re: History of the Sixth World
Post by: Lewis Greywolf on (10:47:17/05-09-18)
Question / Request
In Sprawl Wilds page 42, Ashes starts of with "it's a pivotal event" and "define the destiny of the Ork Underground" but I can't find any offical follow-up. Does anyone know what the canon outcome is? And what's the date for Ashes? (I was thinking April 2075, right after Carbon Copy)