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Title: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: Scarecrow71 on <09-04-12/1545:53>
So, I have a question about the list of coming missions in Season 4.  Are the convention mission packs and the prime missions going to be released for sale anytime soon?  Or are they already available?
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: Scarecrow71 on <09-05-12/2014:02>
Anyone?
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: Black on <09-05-12/2015:57>
*tumble weed rolls on by...*

Can I put my hand up and say that I too am keen on these?
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: Dr. Meatgrinder on <09-05-12/2131:01>
As I understand it, there are no prime runner missions.  (And I suspect the Scrambles will always be con-only because of the effort and personnel it takes to pull one off.)

There was talk of sending CMPs through the full publication, but I think the only thing to come from that was Elven Blood (Gen Con only release, hardcopy of Ancient Pawns and the Tir-series 2012 CMPs).  Since Elven Blood sold out at Gen Con (or had fewer than a handful of copies left on Sunday), I'd also imagine they know there's interest in seeing more of these...and perhaps even PDF releases.  The London-series 2012 CMPs should do pretty well in this format as well, though I'm guessing earlier CMPs are probably best left for single-mission PDF release.

Given that the main summer con season is just closing (Dragon*Con and PAX were last weekend), I'd imagine there's a recovery period for most of the people in the position to make this happen.
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: Scarecrow71 on <09-05-12/2209:09>
As I understand it, there are no prime runner missions.
Check the Season 4 downloads page.  2 of them, all the way at the bottom.
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: DWC on <09-05-12/2226:58>
You'll note that the mentions of the two Prime missions don't have links to DriveThru or Battleshop.  They also don't have any players who've ever seen them.  They don't exist beyond a concept on someone's laptop.
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: Scarecrow71 on <09-05-12/2317:03>
You'll note that the mentions of the two Prime missions don't have links to DriveThru or Battleshop.  They also don't have any players who've ever seen them.  They don't exist beyond a concept on someone's laptop.
Technically, neither do the final 3 missions or any of the convention missions.  So by your logic, those are nothing more than concepts on someone's laptop.

But assuming they become reality...
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: DWC on <09-05-12/2328:03>
Except that a lot of people have ran and played all of the 2011 CMPs, along with Missions up to 4-10, including the much squee'd over Felicia Day.  It's just the Prime Missions and the last two SRM04s that have yet to see the light of day.
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: Black on <09-05-12/2333:36>
Except that a lot of people have ran and played all of the 2011 CMPs, along with Missions up to 4-10, including the much squee'd over Felicia Day.  It's just the Prime Missions and the last two SRM04s that have yet to see the light of day.

Those of us elsewhere in the world have never seen these missions, except when mentioned in passing on these forums.

Alas, many of us have no idea what a 'summer convention season' actually is....
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: Critias on <09-06-12/0000:25>
Just a heads up, but I've hollered at Bull about this thread and hopefully he'll be here with the official info soon. 
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: DireRadiant on <09-07-12/1012:02>
Except that a lot of people have ran and played all of the 2011 CMPs, along with Missions up to 4-10, including the much squee'd over Felicia Day.  It's just the Prime Missions and the last two SRM04s that have yet to see the light of day.

DWC, you also are a concept on someone's laptop then. By this logic. :)

BTW, next summer you need to get me your contact info and you can join in on the whiskey tasting.
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: DWC on <09-07-12/2337:16>
To the people who've only dealt with me via message board, I kind of am only a concept on a computer.

And I'll have to bring something from the local distillery next year.
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: Bull on <09-08-12/0215:20>
It's complicated.  Short answer, Elven Blood will be out in a month or two.  There are still a couple mid-sized conventions left for the year.

As for the earlier stuff...  that's complicated as well, but is being worked on.

Prime Missions are a whole bag of problems.  Short answer is that the first three that were commissioned had authors bail on them.  After that I got tied up with things, and since Prime Missions are only for characters that have been promoted to Prime Runner status and not "regular" Missions characters.  As far as I've been able to determine, we ended up with very few Prime Runners after season 3, so combined with the author trouble I put the Primes on the shelf for a bit.  We're working on getting a couple out to test them before Season 5 launches though.

Also, the website is hideously out of date again.  The joys of not having a regular webmaster.

Bull
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: CanRay on <09-08-12/0929:50>
Spider monkies that know HTML and Java are hideously expensive and hard to upkeep.
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: Scarecrow71 on <09-08-12/2324:16>
Speaking as an IT person and a programmer....

About a decade ago, knowledge of HTML/ASP/JSP/CSS/Java was required if you wanted to do anything with web pages.  And the more complicated you wanted to get - such as adding buttons (oh my!) or text fields (gasp!), the more complicated it was to actually do the task.

In today's day and age, WYSIWYG editors are standard, and you can pretty much create any web page with little to no coding knowledge.  Yes, the languages are nice to know in the event you want to do something really far out (like secured socket layering or advanced transact-sql database calls), but it's no longer necessary to know these things.

As a programmer, I can't remember the last time I actually wrote a piece of code that I didn't copy and paste at least some part of it from somewhere else.  You don't need to recreate the wheel - you just need to make sure the wheel fits the car you're driving.

But you are right on one thing - we aren't cheap.  But loads of Mountain Dew keeps us happy.  :D
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: CanRay on <09-09-12/0031:41>
I miss the days of Notepad.

...

GIT OFF MAH LAWN!
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: rasmusnicolaj on <09-09-12/0203:23>
It's complicated.  Short answer, Elven Blood will be out in a month or two.  There are still a couple mid-sized conventions left for the year.

As for the earlier stuff...  that's complicated as well, but is being worked on.

Prime Missions are a whole bag of problems.  Short answer is that the first three that were commissioned had authors bail on them.  After that I got tied up with things, and since Prime Missions are only for characters that have been promoted to Prime Runner status and not "regular" Missions characters.  As far as I've been able to determine, we ended up with very few Prime Runners after season 3, so combined with the author trouble I put the Primes on the shelf for a bit.  We're working on getting a couple out to test them before Season 5 launches though.

Also, the website is hideously out of date again.  The joys of not having a regular webmaster.

Bull

Wgat about the 8 Convention Mission Packs from 2011 (and I quess there are some from this year also)?
It would be cool if they could be puplished as the regular missions for us non-US citizens.
Please. Pretty Please...

Rasmus
Title: Re: Convention and Prime Missions
Post by: rasmusnicolaj on <09-09-12/0205:21>
Yeah I also know Java and HTML but I use Joomla and assorted templates when I have to make a webpage. Its faster, easier and tend to yield a better result.
I still like to open a notepad and write some code though. Must be a nostalgic thing  :)

Rasmus