The Barrens Bang-Stick is a name commonly given to single-shot single-use crudely-made lead-pipe firearms (i.e. zip guns) built out of a shotgun shell and common household objects. It cannot accept any modifications. It is a single use weapon with practically no range; use half Taser ranges, rounding down when necessary. If the shell used is one that spreads (shot, flechette), it is automatically on a Wide spread, as these have no choke.
Weapon Damage AP Mode RC Ammo Availability Cost Barrens Bang-Stick 7P -1 SS 0 1 3F 25¥
Firearm Class Cost Multiplier Hold-Out Pistol 1.08 Light Pistol 0.79 Machine Pistol 0.63 Heavy Pistol 0.46 Submachine Gun 0.41 Shotgun 0.50 Sport Rifle 0.47 Assault Rifle 0.56 Sniper Rifle 0.64 Machine Gun 0.54
| Weapon | Damage | AP | Mode | RC | Ammo | Availability | Cost |
| Springfield Finalist | 6P | -1 | SA | 2 | 18 (c) | 40F | 2630¥ |
| Weapon | Damage | AP | Mode | RC | Ammo | Availability | Cost | Type |
| Colt M412 Designated Marksman Rifle | 6P | -2 | SA | (1) | 10 (c) | 10R | 1000¥ | Sporting Rifle |
And, to kick things off:
Weapon Damage AP Mode RC Ammo Availability Cost Springfield Finalist 6P -1 SA 2 18 (c) 40F 2630¥
This elegant squashed-ceramoplast heavy pistol is made by Springfield exclusively for their parent company of Shiawase, who restricts them to the personal bodyguards of the Shiawase family and field agents of the MFID. The weapon itself is invisible to MADs, and users typically load hermetically sealed caseless Hi-C plastic rounds, to keep it that way; its slimline contoured design even reduces its profile by -1. The Finalist comes standard with a smartlink with skinlink, silencer, an underbarrel weight, and a personalized grip; it is also hardened for melee combat. Popular requests include gecko grip (+180¥) and chameleon coating (+1400¥), which requests must be submitted at the time of order placement. Crafting takes a minimum of 30 days due to the nature of the material preparation.
Fewer than 20 Finalists are crafted each year, leading to several Street Cost situations being automatically applied (unless, of course, you are such an agent) -- Distribution channels monopolized (+20%), Law enforcement crackdown on item (+50%), and Market dry (+20%) are all applied to this weapon's base value (making its base 5000¥, or 8000¥ 'fully loaded') before figuring for additional cash spent to gain another die for an availability test (the 25% of which is, of course, 1250¥/2000¥).
SR3 Cannon Companion Creation[spoiler]
SR3 Cannon Companion Creation
Heavy Pistol Base (9M, wt 2.75, Conc. 5, RC 0, Ammo 10, FCU 2, Points 120)Original Springfield Finalist: 10M, wt 3.0, Conc. 7, RC 2, Ammo 18(c), FCU 0, Points 806. Gross Cost: 4030¥.
- Increased Power (1): wt +0.25 , -0.25 FCU, 80 points.
- Increased Conceal (2): +2 Conceal. 40 points.
- Recoil Compensation (1): wt +0.25, RC +1, -0.5 FCU, 70 points.
- Decreased Weight (6): wt -1.5, 30 points.
- Increased Ammo ( 8 ) : Ammo +8. 16 points.
- Ceramic Components (3): wt -0.3, -0.75 FCU, 60 points.
- Smartlink II: wt +0.5, -0.25 FCU, 180 points.
- Rangefinder: wt +0.1, -0.25 FCU, 30 points.
- Reinforced Barrel: wt +0.5, RC +1, -0.25 FCU, 25 points.
- Melee Reinforced: wt +0.25, -0.5 FCU, 15 points.
- Silencer: wt +0.2, -0.25 FCU, 100 points.
- Increased FCU (4): +1 FCU, 40 points.
Bulk Production Modifier: Heavy Pistol, 0.46 Net Cost: 1860¥
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Conversion Notes/Justification:
[spoiler]Current statistics are based roughly on a modified Ares Predator IV, with the damage remaining parallel to the Ruger Super Warhawk (10M becomes 6P). With the above modifications (without Chameleon Coating or Gecko Grip), the weapon comes in at 1725¥ before ceramic/plasteel component modifications. The price is not six times higher for the same reason the Morrissey Élan and the HK Urban Fighter are not both 2100¥ -- corporate design and production. It is, however, well above even the most expensive heavy pistol, is quite rare, and is very difficult to acquire.
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As good as Eleanor's article was (she was a pretty good writer for someone who had a Science degree and worked for the ATO), and the Cannon Companion rules were, Kenneth Peters' Cannon Companion Redux (http://tzeentchnet.pingslave.com/Shadowrun/CannonCompanion_Redux.pdf) was the best tool I found for making guns in SR3, and what I used to create The Streetline Single (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5172.msg83719#msg83719).As the guy who mostly rewrote that section of Cannon Companion (it's where my "Additional Writing" credit came from, instead of just the playtesting credit I was expecting), I'm glad you found it useful. Even if you did use Ken's book instead. :)
As good as Eleanor's article was (she was a pretty good writer for someone who had a Science degree and worked for the ATO), and the Cannon Companion rules were, Kenneth Peters' Cannon Companion Redux (http://tzeentchnet.pingslave.com/Shadowrun/CannonCompanion_Redux.pdf) was the best tool I found for making guns in SR3, and what I used to create The Streetline Single (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5172.msg83719#msg83719).As the guy who mostly rewrote that section of Cannon Companion (it's where my "Additional Writing" credit came from, instead of just the playtesting credit I was expecting), I'm glad you found it useful. Even if you did use Ken's book instead. :)
Isn't that an "Additional Information" credit? ;)Probably. It's been a while since I cracked the cover on that one.
And the Cannon Companion rules are good, don't get me wrong, Ken just took it that little bit further. Without your work, he most likely wouldn't have been able to. I miss rules like that in SR4A...Oh, I'm sure he'd have been able to come up with something. He saw some of the same playtest drafts I did, and he's a sharp guy. He didn't need me to do something for his inner gearhead to take off. :)
That does bring up a good point. What is the likelihood of a future supplement having rules to design our own weapons and armor? And custom drones?
Colt Ouroboros:
Colt Steel Ouroboros:
As good as Eleanor's article was (she was a pretty good writer for someone who had a Science degree and worked for the ATO), and the Cannon Companion rules were, Kenneth Peters' Cannon Companion Redux (http://tzeentchnet.pingslave.com/Shadowrun/CannonCompanion_Redux.pdf) was the best tool I found for making guns in SR3, and what I used to create The Streetline Single (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5172.msg83719#msg83719).
Can I please order 2 for christmas both with chameleon coating. It would be nice if they could come already wrapped and preferably in a velvet-lined box of cherrywood.
Rasmus 8)
CAS P-29 S.O.S:
Availability: 24F
Cost: 12,300¥
Standard Mods: Internal Silencer*, Heavy Barrel, Melee Hardening, Smartgun System, Reduced Weight, Ceramic Components 3
Tripwire Tactical A-42 Bodyguard AKA "The Overcoat Special"
A-42 Bodyguard:
Type: Assault Rifle
RC: 0 (2)
Cost: 4,000¥
As good as Eleanor's article was (she was a pretty good writer for someone who had a Science degree and worked for the ATO), and the Cannon Companion rules were, Kenneth Peters' Cannon Companion Redux (http://tzeentchnet.pingslave.com/Shadowrun/CannonCompanion_Redux.pdf) was the best tool I found for making guns in SR3, and what I used to create The Streetline Single (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5172.msg83719#msg83719).
While I appreciate the 'CC Redux' rules, they are an entire revamping, instead of a minor tack-on rule that simply turns a restricted run of weaponry into a new product line (with associated mass-production discounts). What I wish to ensure is that the weapons that are here are based as closely as possible off canonical SR information.
Isn't that an "Additional Information" credit? ;)Probably. It's been a while since I cracked the cover on that one.QuoteAnd the Cannon Companion rules are good, don't get me wrong, Ken just took it that little bit further. Without your work, he most likely wouldn't have been able to. I miss rules like that in SR4A...Oh, I'm sure he'd have been able to come up with something. He saw some of the same playtest drafts I did, and he's a sharp guy. He didn't need me to do something for his inner gearhead to take off. :)
Heavy Barrel no longer does anything for a pistol; reduced weight cannot be combined with ceramic components either. Very, very expensive, very, very difficult to get a hold of, even despite the (okay, admittedly fuzzy) comment in the fluff about it being kept 'in competition with the main side arms of other nations'. Is this supposed to be a widely-used piece like that suggests, or a highly restricted one? Also, why is the CAS producing this directly, instead of contracting it to a weapons manufacturer?I never noticed that they completely changed the Heavy Barrel mod, a 2073 version would probably replace it with Electronic Firing (RC and quieter). While it isn't written out, someone with Low Frequency hearing should be able to hear a normal suppressed weapon much much easier. I figure that while you can't usually modify ceramic components with reduced weight, guns can come standard bending the rules (glares at Ares Alpha). Its standard issue for stealth operations (mostly special forces), but can stand up to other nations sidearms despite being tuned for silent operation.The fluff was written for 2063. As for the CAS, they were trying to keep the design under wraps.
Even with the 0.46 Heavy Pistols price modifier, this thing comes in at a whopping 5660¥. With a silencer that doesn't work as well (technically) as a normal one, why should I purchase this instead of some other MAD-based weapon into which I could ladle a few relatively inexpensive modifications?
Again, wildly expensive; I can get four FN HARs for this, and get them twice as fast. Though they might not fold away like this, they always have those two points of recoil comp. Not sure if you have the Concealability right; am I correct in believing that you're saying it is naturally more concealable than an SMG, and when folded up it falls between a heavy pistol and a machine pistol in concealability??The entire point of the gun is concealability, not the recoil comp. The SR3 version had the concealability of a Light Pistol when folded up. Bullpup design allows the whole package to wind up roughly the size of an SMG, but the helical clip largely cuts down the profile. Folding in the stock and grips, it should come out to be roughly the size of a mini-bat and its specifically designed to be worn strapped under the shoulder.
1) Beehive (aka shotgun aka flechette pack)Been planning to stat those up when i get some time to do my weapon and ammo listing for 40mm grenade launchers.
Do you happen to know what Ken's working on these days?I don't know that he's working on anything gaming-related. We don't talk much anymore. Last I heard, he was working on a graduate degree of some sort in Idaho, which his Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=710936297) seems to back up.
Also, why is the CAS producing this directly, instead of contracting it to a weapons manufacturer?Like, say, Cavalier Arms...? (Gotta get in the plug where I can....)
That does bring up a good point. What is the likelihood of a future supplement having rules to design our own weapons and armor? And custom drones?Magic 8 Balls says, "Uncertain."
One I would buy in a heartbeat.That does bring up a good point. What is the likelihood of a future supplement having rules to design our own weapons and armor? And custom drones?Magic 8 Balls says, "Uncertain."
I don't think there are any immediate plans for such a thing. It is something I'd like to address in my copious unstructured free time, however. Think it would make a smashing ebook.
One I would buy in a heartbeat.That does bring up a good point. What is the likelihood of a future supplement having rules to design our own weapons and armor? And custom drones?Magic 8 Balls says, "Uncertain."
I don't think there are any immediate plans for such a thing. It is something I'd like to address in my copious unstructured free time, however. Think it would make a smashing ebook.
A custom Sniper Rifle
N7 Hawksnipe Widow
D: 8P
AP: -2
Mode: SS/BF
RC: (1)
Ammo: 20
Availability: 15F
Cost: 16,000
Mods: Internal Bipod, Powered Easy Breakdown
Accessory: Imaging Scope w/Image Link & Smartlink
I'm not sure the monoblade and the vibrating blade functions well together.
Not the way I imaging the two types of blades.
Ares Onager
Damage: 5P
AP: -1
Mode: SA/BF/FA
RC: 1
Ammo: 20(c)
Concealability: 2
Cost: 2650¥
This machine pistol was made to put penetration and power into a portable PDW. It carries impressive firepower for a weapon of it's size, and is great for bodyguards or bouncers who need portable supression that doesn't attract attention. It packs the punch of an SMG, and the report of one too: apply a +2 modifier to any Perception Tests to hear this weapon. Because of this, sound suppressors are a common accessory.