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Title: Where to find books?
Post by: Bio ex Machina on <10-06-11/1743:28>
idk where this topic goes, figure it works best here:
i started checking this forum 'cuz i was curious about SR, and thought i'd get a look before i devoted my wallet to it. i've decided i'm going to play, but now i need the books. i live in a relatively small city, and was wondering what stores (hastings, hobby lobby, wally world, etc.) tend to carry shadowrun books and/or which ones tend to be cheapest. i am willing to get pdfs from the intenet, but woud prefer solid copy books. any ideas, or is this just a weird queston/wrong place for it?
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: Phylos Fett on <10-06-11/1754:13>
If all else fails, you can always order the hardcopy books online and have them shipped to you.
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: bigity on <10-06-11/1805:51>
A Hastings might have a copy or two of recently printed books, and maybe some used ones if someone else around there sold theirs to the store.

Walmart and Hobby Lobby would never have em.

Barnes and Noble would have some, but they usually don't stock stuff except D&D and new print runs.  Otherwise, you can hit up Amazon or some other online book retailer, Amazon prices being quite frequently cheaper than a FLGS, even after shipping.

I hate to not give money to physical game stores, but damned if I'm paying a 30 percent premium on a 40 dollar book.  Especially if it's an unknown quality (like a certain product line lately).
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: Phylos Fett on <10-06-11/1816:09>
Otherwise, you can hit up Amazon or some other online book retailer, Amazon prices being quite frequently cheaper than a FLGS, even after shipping.

I hate to not give money to physical game stores, but damned if I'm paying a 30 percent premium on a 40 dollar book.  Especially if it's an unknown quality (like a certain product line lately).

Yeah, Amazon kicks ass as far as pricing goes, but that has a lot to do with the price they get the books at - most publishers give booksellers a 33% (or there about) reduction on RRP - so if a book sells for $30, the bookseller buys it for $20. Amazon, however, get a 66% (or there about) reduction - so for the same $30 book, Amazon pays $10. This is why your booksellers can't compete with Amazon.

That said, I do prefer the personal touch you get at a bookshop, if and when you can find one.
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: Bio ex Machina on <10-06-11/1901:14>
A Hastings might have a copy or two of recently printed books, and maybe some used ones if someone else around there sold theirs to the store.

Walmart and Hobby Lobby would never have em.

Barnes and Noble would have some, but they usually don't stock stuff except D&D and new print runs.  Otherwise, you can hit up Amazon or some other online book retailer, Amazon prices being quite frequently cheaper than a FLGS, even after shipping.

I hate to not give money to physical game stores, but damned if I'm paying a 30 percent premium on a 40 dollar book.  Especially if it's an unknown quality (like a certain product line lately).

thanks for the thoroughness. this will get me on the right track at least, and more likely lead me strait to the solution i'm looking for
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: bigity on <10-06-11/2203:42>
Otherwise, you can hit up Amazon or some other online book retailer, Amazon prices being quite frequently cheaper than a FLGS, even after shipping.

I hate to not give money to physical game stores, but damned if I'm paying a 30 percent premium on a 40 dollar book.  Especially if it's an unknown quality (like a certain product line lately).

Yeah, Amazon kicks ass as far as pricing goes, but that has a lot to do with the price they get the books at - most publishers give booksellers a 33% (or there about) reduction on RRP - so if a book sells for $30, the bookseller buys it for $20. Amazon, however, get a 66% (or there about) reduction - so for the same $30 book, Amazon pays $10. This is why your booksellers can't compete with Amazon.

That said, I do prefer the personal touch you get at a bookshop, if and when you can find one.

So do I, but until recently I lived in a town that didn't have a single FLGS.  The closest thing to it was a Magic/Pokemon store that had kids in there doing league games every other day and one or two D&D books.  No scheduled events, no tables available to run games, nothing.

Lubbock here has a well stocked store, but it's tiny, cramped, and I hate to say it about my fellow gamers, but it has a high percentage of folks lacking in some hygiene skills.  I guess that's not really fair after months of 100 degree weather.
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: Phylos Fett on <10-07-11/0247:28>
Otherwise, you can hit up Amazon or some other online book retailer, Amazon prices being quite frequently cheaper than a FLGS, even after shipping.

I hate to not give money to physical game stores, but damned if I'm paying a 30 percent premium on a 40 dollar book.  Especially if it's an unknown quality (like a certain product line lately).

Yeah, Amazon kicks ass as far as pricing goes, but that has a lot to do with the price they get the books at - most publishers give booksellers a 33% (or there about) reduction on RRP - so if a book sells for $30, the bookseller buys it for $20. Amazon, however, get a 66% (or there about) reduction - so for the same $30 book, Amazon pays $10. This is why your booksellers can't compete with Amazon.

That said, I do prefer the personal touch you get at a bookshop, if and when you can find one.

So do I, but until recently I lived in a town that didn't have a single FLGS.  The closest thing to it was a Magic/Pokemon store that had kids in there doing league games every other day and one or two D&D books.  No scheduled events, no tables available to run games, nothing.

Lubbock here has a well stocked store, but it's tiny, cramped, and I hate to say it about my fellow gamers, but it has a high percentage of folks lacking in some hygiene skills.  I guess that's not really fair after months of 100 degree weather.

Around here I think there is only 1 regular bookshop (and I use the term loosely) - as far as bookshops go, they stock nothing that I'd even consider going in to peruse on the shelves, and the idea of gaming books seems just laughable to these people...
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: ARC on <10-07-11/0326:11>
Otherwise, you can hit up Amazon or some other online book retailer, Amazon prices being quite frequently cheaper than a FLGS, even after shipping.

I hate to not give money to physical game stores, but damned if I'm paying a 30 percent premium on a 40 dollar book.  Especially if it's an unknown quality (like a certain product line lately).

Yeah, Amazon kicks ass as far as pricing goes, but that has a lot to do with the price they get the books at - most publishers give booksellers a 33% (or there about) reduction on RRP - so if a book sells for $30, the bookseller buys it for $20. Amazon, however, get a 66% (or there about) reduction - so for the same $30 book, Amazon pays $10. This is why your booksellers can't compete with Amazon.

That said, I do prefer the personal touch you get at a bookshop, if and when you can find one.

So do I, but until recently I lived in a town that didn't have a single FLGS.  The closest thing to it was a Magic/Pokemon store that had kids in there doing league games every other day and one or two D&D books.  No scheduled events, no tables available to run games, nothing.

Lubbock here has a well stocked store, but it's tiny, cramped, and I hate to say it about my fellow gamers, but it has a high percentage of folks lacking in some hygiene skills.  I guess that's not really fair after months of 100 degree weather.

Around here I think there is only 1 regular bookshop (and I use the term loosely) - as far as bookshops go, they stock nothing that I'd even consider going in to peruse on the shelves, and the idea of gaming books seems just laughable to these people...

I know exatly how ya'll feel.  I grew up in Lake County, FL.  We had a total of 2 game stores the entire time I lived there.  And one closed down before the other opened up.  I would have to drive an hour to an hour and a half in traffic to go to Orlando to get game books, anime, or models.  Luckily, I joined the Army and they moved me to Ft. Lewis.  There are 3 or 4 places I can get models, games, anime, and just have a place to hang out if I need time away from the wife.
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: Phylos Fett on <10-07-11/0358:21>
Otherwise, you can hit up Amazon or some other online book retailer, Amazon prices being quite frequently cheaper than a FLGS, even after shipping.

I hate to not give money to physical game stores, but damned if I'm paying a 30 percent premium on a 40 dollar book.  Especially if it's an unknown quality (like a certain product line lately).

Yeah, Amazon kicks ass as far as pricing goes, but that has a lot to do with the price they get the books at - most publishers give booksellers a 33% (or there about) reduction on RRP - so if a book sells for $30, the bookseller buys it for $20. Amazon, however, get a 66% (or there about) reduction - so for the same $30 book, Amazon pays $10. This is why your booksellers can't compete with Amazon.

That said, I do prefer the personal touch you get at a bookshop, if and when you can find one.

So do I, but until recently I lived in a town that didn't have a single FLGS.  The closest thing to it was a Magic/Pokemon store that had kids in there doing league games every other day and one or two D&D books.  No scheduled events, no tables available to run games, nothing.

Lubbock here has a well stocked store, but it's tiny, cramped, and I hate to say it about my fellow gamers, but it has a high percentage of folks lacking in some hygiene skills.  I guess that's not really fair after months of 100 degree weather.

Around here I think there is only 1 regular bookshop (and I use the term loosely) - as far as bookshops go, they stock nothing that I'd even consider going in to peruse on the shelves, and the idea of gaming books seems just laughable to these people...

I know exatly how ya'll feel.  I grew up in Lake County, FL.  We had a total of 2 game stores the entire time I lived there.  And one closed down before the other opened up.  I would have to drive an hour to an hour and a half in traffic to go to Orlando to get game books, anime, or models.  Luckily, I joined the Army and they moved me to Ft. Lewis.  There are 3 or 4 places I can get models, games, anime, and just have a place to hang out if I need time away from the wife.

I'm also used to living in cities where I can visit a couple of different game stores, book stores, comic stores and the like, but at the moment I am stuck in a one-horse town (more or less) waiting on paperwork to get back to the US of A. A long and (probably to most) not very interesting story...
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: ARC on <10-07-11/0405:38>
I got ya beat there.  The first game store in my home county closed because we had abunch of kids from Tennessee cone down thinking theyb were vampires from V:TM and killed a friend of mine's parents.  Gamers got stuck with the "Their all time bombs waiting to kill" label for years after that.
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: Phylos Fett on <10-07-11/0423:42>
I got ya beat there.  The first game store in my home county closed because we had abunch of kids from Tennessee cone down thinking theyb were vampires from V:TM and killed a friend of mine's parents.  Gamers got stuck with the "Their all time bombs waiting to kill" label for years after that.

That's pretty fucked up right there, on all counts...
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: ARC on <10-07-11/0425:09>
On more than one front.  Look up Heather Wendorf in google and you'll see what I am talking about.  I had asked her out like 2 weeks before.
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: Phylos Fett on <10-07-11/0439:03>
On more than one front.  Look up Heather Wendorf in google and you'll see what I am talking about.  I had asked her out like 2 weeks before.

 :o
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: ARC on <10-07-11/0510:34>
On more than one front.  Look up Heather Wendorf in google and you'll see what I am talking about.  I had asked her out like 2 weeks before.

 :o

I take it you looked her up?  Yeah.  Completely jacked up.  Well after that anybody who did RPG's was pretty much blacklisted like a commie during th McCarthy era.  After a few years things calmed down, but I never forgot what happened.  I bled for my games.  More than a few people bled because they tangled with the wrong guy.  Needless to say if I see a gellow gamer getting the short end of the stick because he/she's an "nerd/geek/spaz" or whatever they want to call them, I take it personally and do what I can to help out.
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: Phylos Fett on <10-07-11/0520:28>
I take it you looked her up?

Yeah - a disturbing little story, to put it mildly.
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: ARC on <10-07-11/0547:29>
Yeah.  Try coming to terms with the fact that you asked someone out that might have had a hand in whacking her parents.  I don't think she did though.  Everybody seems to agree that she didn't know what was going to happen, nor had any knoledge that it had till the day before they were arrested.
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: Zilfer on <10-07-11/1226:30>
Yeah.  Try coming to terms with the fact that you asked someone out that might have had a hand in whacking her parents.  I don't think she did though.  Everybody seems to agree that she didn't know what was going to happen, nor had any knoledge that it had till the day before they were arrested.

Wow.... sorry about that Arc. :/ Doesn't sound like it was fun, and i REALLY hate people that think these types of games are Devil Worship or that we aren't in touch with reality. Same with the claims that video games make people unstable. Fuckin bullshit.

(Excuse me if i'm not allowed to curse on this forum)

Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: bigity on <10-07-11/1349:01>
I take it you are not a member of BADD? ;)

Before D&D it was rock and roll.  After D&D it was video games.  Just one of those human things that perpetuates.
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: kirk on <10-07-11/1401:20>
Believe it or not, officials in Vienna wrote of that terrible dance craze that was destroying morals; the waltz.  (The story of socrates complaining of the youths of the time is apocryphal, as are a few others after that. The complaints of the fathers of Vienna are, however, documented.)
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: bigity on <10-07-11/1422:01>
I can hear Mama Boucher saying 'Waltzing is the devillllll!'
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: ARC on <10-07-11/1459:11>
Hey, I wear it like a badge of honor.  I'm a geek and I am proud.
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: Zilfer on <10-07-11/1647:24>
Hey, I wear it like a badge of honor.  I'm a geek and I am proud.

Indeed!
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: kirk on <10-07-11/1905:28>
I can hear Mama Boucher saying 'Waltzing is the devillllll!'
well, yes. See, prior to the waltz dancing was mostly no-touch. Proper Gentlemen and Ladies touched hands, at most. Sure, country dances had lifts where the man's hands could get a little closer to the prize, but even so it was on, lift, off. And the majority of dances were group dances: lines, circles, that sort of thing.

Suddenly there's this dance where the man and woman are not only close but the man gets to put his arm around her for the WHOLE DANCE. Shocking.
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: CanRay on <10-07-11/1930:29>
Let's face it, we've been rocketing towards chaos and anarchy for a long time now.

Alice Cooper just admitted that he's no longer a "Shock Rocker" on a Canadian Talk Show.

"I mean, I go up on stage and get my head chopped off.  Then after the show, I turn on CNN, and there it is being done in real life.  I'm no longer shocking."
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: Zilfer on <10-08-11/0215:11>
Let's face it, we've been rocketing towards chaos and anarchy for a long time now.

Alice Cooper just admitted that he's no longer a "Shock Rocker" on a Canadian Talk Show.

"I mean, I go up on stage and get my head chopped off.  Then after the show, I turn on CNN, and there it is being done in real life.  I'm no longer shocking."

>.> does he have his head in his arms while he's watching TV?
Title: Re: Where to find books?
Post by: CanRay on <10-08-11/1426:40>
He might.

'Course, the show I saw him perform live had him decapitated by his daughter (Apparently), so I'm happy he's making it family entertainment.  ;D