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Title: Troll Weapons
Post by: Jiokuy on <08-08-11/1905:32>
So my groups troll is a monk from an all troll monastery
He took:
Uneducated and Incompetent: All skills but Close Combat Group, Dodge, Athletics Group, Stealth Group, Outdoors Group, Escape Artist, First Aid, Knowledge (Philosophy), and 3 Language skills.
And in return instead of 50billion BP, I raised the max on his mental attributes to 6 and made wisdom 2/7.
I run tight games 200BP you Earn! the rest, and if you die you only get 200 to make a new char. (karma curve to balance it out)
This guy is not  a Min/Maxer in the slightest.

It is a fun idea, a Troll in the Big City sort of idea. (he comes from an all troll society)

Problem is when it comes to swords/bows/adept powers ect he is both ridiculously powerful and very very flat at the same time.

Are there any Martial Arts books from 4e, other things that could spice this troll up.

Also: are there any variations on arrows that might be useful?
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: wylie on <08-08-11/1927:21>
Look in Arsenal for both MA flavor and trick arrows like stick & shock
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: CanRay on <08-08-11/1947:56>
Search "Trollbow" in the Dumpshock Forums, you'll get a whole lot of answers.

EDIT:  Why am I thinking of "Kung-Fu:  The Legend Continues" with a Troll?
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Trenchknife on <08-08-11/2101:48>
Search "Trollbow" in the Dumpshock Forums, you'll get a whole lot of answers.

EDIT:  Why am I thinking of "Kung-Fu:  The Legend Continues" with a Troll?

My problem is that I'm now switching this troll for the main character from Kung Fu Hustle...and laughing my butt off!
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Charybdis on <08-08-11/2129:17>
TrollBow PC:  This is ma' papa's bow. We used to hunt n' stuff.
PC1: So what did you hunt back home
TrollBow PC: Oh the usual. Juggernaut's n' shit.
PC1:       o.O
TrollBowPC: What?! Dem's good eatin'! And we made a new shed for Mama when the food was done. Yup, she's comfy as a hot-dog in a bun stitting in that Juggernaut's ass. Hu-yuck!
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: CanRay on <08-08-11/2136:15>
"Isn't that the leaf-spring from the suspension of a 1954 Ford F-250 3/4 Ton Pick-Up?"

"I don't know what scares me more, the bow or the fact that you were able to identify something like that down to the YEAR!"
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Stahlseele on <08-09-11/0820:58>
"My club broke. Wait a second, i'll be taking that Parking meter over there. And if that's not enough, i'll be using this here lamp-post instead"
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: JoeNapalm on <08-09-11/1008:29>

"Sergeant! What is the meaning of this?! We've got glass all over the place, an entire neighborhood of terrified civilians, and a dead Metahuman in the street. Explain!"

"Well, sir, I had the shot, so I took it. I eliminated the threat."

"WHAT threat?"

"Did you look at the dead guy?"

"No, where's he at? Behind that SUV?"

"No, sir. He IS the SUV."


-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Ryo on <08-12-11/1622:23>
My personal favorite melee weapon has always been the Victorinox Smartstaff, as its a swiff army weapon that turns into whatever you want. But if we're talking improvised weapons for a Troll Monk, I've always been a fan of the Metahuman Body entry in Arsenal.

What? Dwarves are perfectly valid projectile weapons!
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Cass100199 on <08-12-11/1634:50>
Here is your troll weapon.

http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=277.msg49055#msg49055 (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=277.msg49055#msg49055)
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Ryo on <08-12-11/1643:08>
Here is your troll weapon.

http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=277.msg49055#msg49055 (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=277.msg49055#msg49055)

Do Monk Trolls know how to operate Chainsaw guns?

...Now there's an idea! A gun that shoots Chainsaws!
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: JimJungle on <08-12-11/1647:28>
How about dogs that shoot bees from thier mouth, so when they bite you, you get stung by all the bees too!
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Stahlseele on <08-12-11/1758:07>
Here is your troll weapon.

http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=277.msg49055#msg49055 (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=277.msg49055#msg49055)

Do Monk Trolls know how to operate Chainsaw guns?

...Now there's an idea! A gun that shoots Chainsaws!
(http://uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/rpc_rocket_propelled_chainsaw.jpg)
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Ryo on <08-12-11/1810:03>
Here is your troll weapon.

http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=277.msg49055#msg49055 (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=277.msg49055#msg49055)

Do Monk Trolls know how to operate Chainsaw guns?

...Now there's an idea! A gun that shoots Chainsaws!
(http://uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/rpc_rocket_propelled_chainsaw.jpg)

Someone needs to stat that thing, pronto. Obviously a special kind of Rocket/Missile.

Perhaps an opposite version of an Anti-Vehicle Missile, as its obviously Anti-Personnel. 16P, -6/-2 AP, no blast, 20F Avail. Deals only 8P vs. vehicles.
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Stahlseele on <08-12-11/1900:50>
In SR4, there are allready stats for a mono chainsaw.
Use these. And simply give them indirect fire capability and a Reach of YES(100,200,400,800)
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: CanRay on <08-12-11/2001:51>
Don't forget the composure tests their companions have to make when Jimmy just sprouted a ROCKET-POWERED CHAINSAW in his chest.
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: kirk on <08-12-11/2025:57>
I dunno. I kind of like the idea of using chainsaws as throwing weapons, myself.
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: CanRay on <08-12-11/2036:26>
Here's another option (http://drmcninja.com/archives/comic/5p38/).
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Lacynth40 on <08-13-11/0323:12>
Quick question about troll weapons...

On the cover of Runner Havens, we have a troll next to an elf. Troll has in his mitts a heavy pistol. The slide on the thing is as long as the elf's leg, at least. And about twice as thick. And it fits, really. Good for his size. Now, does that pistol still on do 5P? Obviously it's big enough to handle standard .50 cal pistol ammo. Hell, just from the looks of it, one shot would leave a hole in the elf's torso about the size of her... Well... Torso. If someone bucks up the cost of a meta-sized weapon, shouldn't the weapon's stats be increased? Or decreased in the case of dwarfs?

Edit: On a side note, for comparison's sake, it looks like she is also wielding heavy pistols... MUCH smaller heavy pistols. His pistol could use hers as ammunition...
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Medicineman on <08-13-11/0507:52>
maybe its a custom  build/pimped Shotgun ?

HokaHey
Medicineman
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: CanRay on <08-13-11/1231:52>
Troll-specific weapons and calibers are still too niche a market for the Megas to be interested, when they can just build bigger versions of regular items and call it a day.

Of course, there's also the Panther Assault Cannon...  That's pretty much made for a Troll.
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Stahlseele on <08-13-11/1246:39>
*shrugs*
a humans Longsword is a Trolls knife.
a humans shotgun is a Trolls heavy Pistol.
a humans AR is a Trolls SMG.
a humans LMG is a Trolls AR.
It works out nice enough . .
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: CanRay on <08-13-11/1257:00>
Now I want to modify a M2HB to have a pistol grip and a foregrip for a very large Troll to carry around.

.50 BMG.  With that kind of stopping power, there is no cover, only concealment.  The difference is made to you quite plainly when that nice, safe engine block you're hiding behind suddenly has holes put through both sides.
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Stahlseele on <08-13-11/1300:09>
Now I want to modify a M2HB to have a pistol grip and a foregrip for a very large Troll to carry around.

.50 BMG.  With that kind of stopping power, there is no cover, only concealment.  The difference is made to you quite plainly when that nice, safe engine block you're hiding behind suddenly has holes put through both sides.
(http://forum.jaggedalliance.de/download/file.php?id=1828)

http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/airborne_combat_engineer/2005/01/the_thunder_50_.html
http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/airborne_combat_engineer/2005/01/the_maadi_griff.html
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: CanRay on <08-13-11/1304:46>
That's the back-up weapon in case you left the M2HB too far away when you went to put out the fire by peeing on it.
Title: Re: Troll Weapons
Post by: Stahlseele on <08-13-11/1307:06>
That's the back-up weapon in case you left the M2HB too far away when you went to put out the fire by peeing on it.
Hmm . . actually . .
The .50  Sniper is in there . .
Bull-Pup-Design, shorter barrel . . get rid of stock . .
Hand to troll, point in one direction, run in other direction?