Shadowrun
Off-topic => General Gaming => Topic started by: TheWanderingJewels on <11-22-11/0942:15>
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Well with Mass Effect 3 on the horizon, I figured people might want to talk about there impressions of the Game Series.
I rather enjoyed it, as it seems to be a reconstruction of space opera updated for the modern era and sensibilities. I've heard complains about the Asari being fan service only (hey people, sex sells), but if you look closely, they are as screwed up as the rest of the races. It's managed that epic feel for me, and the dialogue does feel like a long movie, Which I like. it also lampshades itself and sci-fi in general if you pay close enough attention.
thoughts?
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Since the only issues I had with ME2 was an activation overload problem I think ME3 will be a Day 2-7 purchase for me.
But yeah, loads of fun with those two so far.
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Thoughts?
Mass Effect + skins = Shadowrun. Alien/metahuman races, a good mixture of tech, guns, and "magic," assassins, rogue cops, mercenaries, crazy doctors, gene-tweaked perfectionists...what's not to love?
I've been saying for years, all we need are the right mods/skins for the Mass Effect series, and we've got a Shadowrun game 99% done. ;) The ME games have everything I love about Shadowrun, so it's just natural for me to love the ME games.
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Thoughts?
Mass Effect + skins = Shadowrun. Alien/metahuman races, a good mixture of tech, guns, and "magic," assassins, rogue cops, mercenaries, crazy doctors, gene-tweaked perfectionists...what's not to love?
I've been saying for years, all we need are the right mods/skins for the Mass Effect series, and we've got a Shadowrun game 99% done. ;) The ME games have everything I love about Shadowrun, so it's just natural for me to love the ME games.
Don't forget Jack. If she ain't a shadowrunner, slap some tusks on me and call me Bull.
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Don't forget Jack. If she ain't a shadowrunner, slap some tusks on me and call me Bull.
One Bull isn't bad enough?
Anyhow, you don't have a cyberdeck strapped to your arm. You'd be like the cheap Hong Kong knock-off of Bull.
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Recently decided to unearth Baldur's Gate for some nostalgia playing. Bioware's come a long way since then, haven't they?
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"Go for the eyes, Boo!"
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"Go for the eyes, Boo!"
That line is in Mass Effect 2:
When Tali summons her combat drone, Chiktikka vas Paus, she'll sometimes yell, "Go for the optics, Chiktikka! Go for the optics!"
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Glad to see they remember their roots. ;D
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Wait, that was a reference to something???? :o
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Wait, that was a reference to something???? :o
Yes.
Minsc from Baldur's Gate, with his hamster Boo.
Sorry, his "miniature giant space hamster" Boo.
"Go for the eyes, Boo."
This is also why, if you purchase the space hamster in ME2, you get a "knowing smile".
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It was also referenced in Fallout, where "Eye" was one of the target options. One of the companions (I think) would call out, "Go for the eyes".
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Chiktikka vas Paus is also itself a reference to Chiktikka Fastpaws from Baldur's Gate.
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Speaking of Baldur's Gate... I just got this in my E-Mail. (http://www.atari.com/dndanthology)
Looks like I'll have to hit EB Games (Canada's GameStop) or Wally-World.
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I might need to do the same, twice. Once for me and once for my roomie, who's still trying to finish her games on some of these but finding the original copies don't work so well with Windows 7.
Looks like there's a similar collection for the Neverwinter Nights games.
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Pool of Radiance isn't in the set.
That's a good thing.
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Pfft. Like you need your boot.ini file.
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Thoughts?
Mass Effect + skins = Shadowrun. Alien/metahuman races, a good mixture of tech, guns, and "magic," assassins, rogue cops, mercenaries, crazy doctors, gene-tweaked perfectionists...what's not to love?
I've been saying for years, all we need are the right mods/skins for the Mass Effect series, and we've got a Shadowrun game 99% done. ;) The ME games have everything I love about Shadowrun, so it's just natural for me to love the ME games.
Don't forget Jack. If she ain't a shadowrunner, slap some tusks on me and call me Bull.
Icy professional shadowrunner
yeah...that's the ticket
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well actually....all she needs is the Pink mohawk...seriously
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well actually....all she needs is the Pink mohawk...seriously
She'd need hair first.
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she actually did...just shaved bald
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she actually did...just shaved bald
Then she needs a pink 'hawk.
Or maybe leave it her regular colour and dip it in the blood of her enemies. ;D
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she actually did...just shaved bald
Then she needs a pink 'hawk.
Or maybe leave it her regular colour and dip it in the blood of her enemies. ;D
Except blood dries into a rusty red-brown color, not pink.
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she actually did...just shaved bald
Then she needs a pink 'hawk.
Or maybe leave it her regular colour and dip it in the blood of her enemies. ;D
Except blood dries into a rusty red-brown color, not pink.
Much more punk, however.
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Am I the only one who prefers ME1 to ME2?
When I buy a RPG game I expect just that and I got it with ME1. I then bought the second one and expected much the same, instead I got a RPG with a lot of the roleplay elements taken out.
What ME2 has that ME1 doesn't:
less skills to uprade and aquire
weapon shops where you can't buy weapons
a lack of customisation for the crew
a whole crew of dislikeable characters (not just Kaiden like in ME1)
only two of each type of weapon, forcing you to feel like you need to pay to download extra weapons
Asari who seem to have turned way too vivid blue and purple; shouldn't they be light blue
just one type type of armour (bigger and chunkier than the heavy armour from ME1) with pointless little perks (these gloves give you 3% increse to attack power)
Cannot heal the team (or yourself) until they are dead on the floor
Your wounds regenerate in seconds, making medi-gel pointless (this isn't GoW!!)
Terrible bad guys without a decent backstory and look like extras from Farscape
Not the best story in the world
Horrible (and easy) end boss battle (ok you could make Saren commit suicide but he was still better than a giant terminator)
No Mako
No exploration of planets
That damn planet scanner
Contradiction with ME1 about the Migrant Fleet
Contradiction with ME1 about Tuchanka
It does have Mordin though
C'mon Bioware, what were you thinking? ME2 kinda felt like the bit in Star Wars where Luke enters the cave on Dagobah, it doesn't make much sense and nearly ruins the entire film just like ME2 will ruin the series if Bioware don't go back to ME1 style for ME3 (ruin it for me at least).
Rant over 8)
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All of these things are being addressed for ME3....especially planetary exploration
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Ok I guess rant not over yet.
Everyone comments on the asari, a race of females, but nobody seems to notice that every turian, Salarian, Volus, Elcor (maybe female but have male voices?), Batarian and Krogan you meet are male.
Why is the Migrant Fleet dirty in ME2 and the Quarians have to wear their helmets there when in ME1 it says that the only reason the Quarians have to wear the buckets is because they've been living on sterilised starships for a couple of centuries and their immune system cannot handle the dirt found outside the Migrant Fleet?
Why is Tuchanka a desolate city planet in ME2 when in ME1 it says that it resembles Earth during the Jurassic age, complete with giant lizards and such, and that the Krogan never had any sort of civilised society since they were primitive when the council races came along and gave them powerful high-tech weapons to kill each other? They fought the Rachni and then were hit with the genophage but never built cities on Tuchanka, especially not covered it in one big city so it looks like a destroyed Coruscant.
What the hell are combat drones meant to do apart from be annoying glowing things that get stuck on low walls?
Not seeing Tali's face was frustrating but I've heard you'll see it in ME3.
Why have the council races started wearing face paint?
Also, it makes me slightly amused that Star Trek had a moral point that everyone is equal and should be treated so, be they black, white, male, female or even Vulcan but Mass Effect can't seem to get away from its stereotypes:
- All Turians have a pole stuck up their arse
- All Salarians are either scientists or con artists
- All young Asari are either mercs or dancers
- All Krogan just want to tear people to shreds (even their scientists only want to make bigger bombs)
- All Volus are traders and bartenders with a nervous and/or malcontent disposition
Still looking forward to ME3. Im the biggest Mass Effect fan you'll find, I've played the first one through 5 times and the second 3, but I just can't get over how disappointing ME2 was.
Now the rant is over :P
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1. Actually, There will be a female Krogan in in ME3 as a NPC.
2. Wandering in a fleet for centuries on end will make your ships a bit slipshod due to lack of proper parts for maintenance.
3 On Tuchanka: umm....might have been jurrasic at one point. I call it a screw up on the Dev's part.
4. Drones never have been very bright in the game....except for some reason, Tali's.
5. Face pain is there version of Makeup?
6. Mass Effect was designed to not be PC and nice and safe and half the galaxy is composed of Jerkass's in a pissing contest with each other. And it's not like Trek doesn't have the Planet of Hats syndrome
;D
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I have bad news in Mass Effect 3 i have heard in the 360 magazine that you can choose to turn off the rpg elemnts of me3 and also there is going to be a multiplayer horde mode thing....
But atleast this time we might be able to go on Earth
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Well, the Multiplayer thing is actuallya subprogram of ME3. What it is is a integrated part of the game int he you can play with people online in typical FPS fashion team matches and such, but what it primarily is a copoerative mission that multiple people can play to achieve objectives, score points and such.
Interestingly, playing these matches can actually feedback into the single player game and might make part of your missions on single player easier or havea somewhat different outcome. A concept I found rather interesting
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For anyone wanting to get into Mass Effect before ME3 and is reading this thread, Steam now has both ME1 and ME2 at $4.99 USD each.
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Between Mass Effect and The Elder Scrolls I have my video gaming hands full. The Mass Effect series is my favorite of all time so far though.
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I have bad news in Mass Effect 3 i have heard in the 360 magazine that you can choose to turn off the rpg elemnts of me3 and also there is going to be a multiplayer horde mode thing....
But atleast this time we might be able to go on Earth
Welcome to the Shadows Andy!! No longer a civilian. ;D
Yeah, got Rage for xmas and I love it! Getting Skyrim soon and ME3 is comig out in... March? Is it March? Along with Prey 2 (Which looks awesome compared to Prey 1) I swear Bethesda cant make a bad RPG (except Fallout but we all pretend that entire series never happened, right?) ;) Anyway, RPG thirst is sated for the forseeable future
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Rage lasts about five hours.
Then you get really angry.
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Rage lasts about five hours.
Then you get really angry.
I found Rage really satisfying and fun. If you do the side quests, races, and explore you can log on some hours. I have about 18 hours into my Rage game and have not beat it yet, though I'm right at the end, I guess maybe 2 hours more.
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The Commander Shepard Song By Miracle Of Sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCaLNC2hMEg
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I found Rage really satisfying and fun. If you do the side quests, races, and explore you can log on some hours. I have about 18 hours into my Rage game and have not beat it yet, though I'm right at the end, I guess maybe 2 hours more.
Wait, what?? Three discs for a 20 hour game? Iv only played it for a little while and im already a quarter the way through?
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I found Rage really satisfying and fun. If you do the side quests, races, and explore you can log on some hours. I have about 18 hours into my Rage game and have not beat it yet, though I'm right at the end, I guess maybe 2 hours more.
Wait, what?? Three discs for a 20 hour game? Iv only played it for a little while and im already a quarter the way through?
You got it.
My one-disc copy of Saints Row The Third and Skyrim are longer than those three DVDs. I'm still trying to figure that out.
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What's on those discs? Still pretty cool game but I was expecting Final Fantasy VII epic-ness in length for this game. Bethesda know how to make RPGs and id know how to make shooters so you can't lose. 20 hours is still a respectable length for a game, just not a role playing game.
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For a normal shooter that averages 6-8 hours yes Rage is a long game. RPG wise mine average 40-60 hours for some and up to 300 hours, just one character. Rage has 3 disks on the Xbox. Disk 1 and 2 are the game and disk 3 is multi-player. The main reason for the game being on 2 disks is all about the graphics, not really the gameplay content.
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Well just fiddled with the demo to see what things are like (SPOILER ALERT!!)
Okay the demo is not very long in and of itself, but does have the multiplayer add-ons integrated into it as well as the Gameplay Style selection
A rough break down goes something like this:
Action: All player selective ability to affect the Story in terms of roleplaying is Disabled in Action, tho I have noticed that the preponderance of responses for Shepard seem to lean towards Renegade if you do this. maybe it's the Devs Razzing the player for being a Herbert, I'm not sure.
Classic: The Classic mix of Action and RPG elements players have come to know and love.
Story: Exactly what it says on the tin in this case, with more story elements and slightly light on the Shooty aspect of the Game. Combat is as brutal as ever, just not as much of it, at least as far as I can see.
Combat in General: Okay, when they said the game was more difficult, they weren't kidding. the Enemy is now smart enough to use cover and support each other during assaults and use proper tactics (pop smoke and gang rush, throw grendades, drecketera). Even the Story mode, they area pretty nasty bunch. Cover is your friend and use your allies when possible to help but things down.
Controls seem smoother and more responsive, so that's a plus. Standard controls accessed by hitting left shift on ones keyboard are still present. Grendae throwing is a bit easier than it used to be. the heavy melee strike is used by double tapping the F key.
Multiplayer: Well, I'm jsut starting to fiddle with this, but seems to be a decent team up and take an objective little game. more as I fiddle with it.
The Story so far: We come in in media res after Shepard has been stripped of command by Earth Command, (I'm guessing something to do with the Arrival DLC from ME 2) and si summoned to Earth's Defense command council. after bit of exposition, the Reapers all out assault on earth begins and Shepard has to get to the Normandy. This a quick little mission in which the player is familairized with shooting, running, and jumping and melee attacks while trying to get to Radio to call in for an extraction.
The second part of the demo is running around on the Salarian homeworld, trying to extraxt one of the last unifected Krogan females. our old pals Cerberus disagree with this idea and you get to run up against Cerberus assault troops of various forms and learn such new an interesting ways to get shot at including grenades, remote sentry guns and other fun ideas. the mini boss at the end is small Assault mecha you must take out to compete the op
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Have you tried the Kinect interaction yet? I know you're supposed to be able to "yell" orders to your squad and (possibly) answer the RPG wheels directly, but haven't gave it a shot yet.
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using a pc, so that'sa negative, FJ
as an addtional Bonus, I noticed the Seattle Neele in the background of the New 'Take Back Earth' trailer....so the Reapers are leveling Sea-Tac/Vancouver as you bug out
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I haven't tried the kinect stuff myself, FJ. But so far I haven't seen/read anything about using in on response wheels. I'll likely be replacing my near-broken 360 with a kinect-inclusive one before ME3 goes live, though. So I'll have a chance to find out.
As for the multiplayer, it's a good system they've got going. Even the demo's group-finding is halfway decent, you can advance/swap characters even after the group's formed as long as there's one person who hasn't clicked in as ready and the characters use simplified breakdowns of the class powers so there's only ever three to worry about (one for LB, one for RP, one for Y on the 360), plus your own accessories on the d-pad (healing, re-arming, self-rez, and a 1- or 2-shot heavy missile launcher for those pesky Atlas mech infestations.
What I've heard (but haven't looked into) is that the multiplayer system will have an effect on the 'Galaxy at War' mechanic, where the results of missions in multiplayer will make certain areas of the galaxy less/more dangerous for Allied forces. And that the Galaxy at War status can have an effect on your single player game, although I haven't read anything specific about this.
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So anyone tried Mass Effect 3? Did anyone finished it?
I finished it. It is a really good game... [spoiler]But the last 15-20 minutes sucks! The worst part is that this game had been so perfect until you get to the end. Endings are crap, no closure at all with your present and past companions (except the ones who die) and Shepard most likely will die during your gameplay (it's quite a feat without playing multiplayer). No matter the ending, the mass effect relays all explodes and your present companions just get stranded without any comprehensible reason on an unknown planet after a crash (they couldn't stay in Sol space like the rest? Why the jump in the first place?). You get attached to those characters, you want to know what happens to them (at the very least like they do in the Dragon Age series). I always replay the Mass Effect games a few times, make different choices, choose new classes but after seeing how this one ends, I'm not going to replay it, nor am I going to play future DLCs. I might (notice I said might) give it another shot if they include another more fulfilling alternate ending (not necessarily happy, but that'd be my preference). In short, that screwed my entire experience of an otherwise very good game.[/spoiler]
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Still going through it, but I am enjoying the hell out of using the Kinect voice to give commands and such.
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uh no....just got tot the Sections with Tali'. I'm also one of those people who likes tho do all the side quests...which appear to be very important in this game
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So anyone tried Mass Effect 3? Did anyone finished it?
I finished it. It is a really good game... [spoiler]But the last 15-20 minutes sucks! The worst part is that this game had been so perfect until you get to the end. Endings are crap, no closure at all with your present and past companions (except the ones who die) and Shepard most likely will die during your gameplay (it's quite a feat without playing multiplayer). No matter the ending, the mass effect relays all explodes and your present companions just get stranded without any comprehensible reason on an unknown planet after a crash (they couldn't stay in Sol space like the rest? Why the jump in the first place?). You get attached to those characters, you want to know what happens to them (at the very least like they do in the Dragon Age series). I always replay the Mass Effect games a few times, make different choices, choose new classes but after seeing how this one ends, I'm not going to replay it, nor am I going to play future DLCs. I might (notice I said might) give it another shot if they include another more fulfilling alternate ending (not necessarily happy, but that'd be my preference). In short, that screwed my entire experience of an otherwise very good game.[/spoiler]
What was your Galacitic Readiness Value. I'm one of those sorts that belivings in loading up on every edge I can before going in. And in this game, it looks like we will need it
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It was 50% and the only way to raise it is through multiplayer. Since I don't like multiplayer...
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That would be part of it. I'm working on gettinga Cadre together to do the multi-player runs . getting my run and gun and sniping skills back up to speed.
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It was 50% and the only way to raise it is through multiplayer. Since I don't like multiplayer...
Hm. Earlier Bioware interviews indicated that you could reach max without multiplayer at all, it would just take you a lot longer.
I wonder if this changed?
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it's not so much War readiness...mines in the upper 3500s for materials, but if you do the Galaxy are war runs, the ending is supposed to be less sucky for Earth as your various allies have more materials to spare for the war effort when you launch the final assault. you can win playing the game...but very little material to spare for the reconstruction. You still win...but earth isa mess.
Galaxy at war is saving materials for the post war rebuild
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3 stats are going to decide the outcome of your efforts at the end of the game: Total Military Strength, Galactic Readiness Rating and Effective Military Strength.
Total Military Strength: The accumulation of all the war assets and support you gathered.
Galactic Readiness Rating: Base is 50% (higher if you play multiplayer)
Effective Military Strength: It is this number that will decide the outcome. Its value equals the percentage indicated in GRR of your Total Military Strength.
Basically, if you don't play multiplayer, all your assets and support counts for half its value. You have to work twice as hard to get to the best possible outcome (played all the ME games yourself with all the DLCs, including ME3 and you need to explore and recover all assets in the majority of the star clusters available to you.[spoiler]The aim is 5000 Effective Military Strength, although the "best" ending is available at 4000 if you are quick to react at the end.[/spoiler]
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Ah.
I just hopped into a couple of random quick multiplayer games. Both were suck-fests, but afterwards my Readiness Rating went up by 5%. Also, I was level 8 by the end. So playing seems to raise your ratings pretty quick.
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Ah.
I just hopped into a couple of random quick multiplayer games. Both were suck-fests, but afterwards my Readiness Rating went up by 5%. Also, I was level 8 by the end. So playing seems to raise your ratings pretty quick.
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Just tough it out for a few more games and you'll be golden. ;)
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hmm. the ones I ran with were pretty good on team co-ordination and My readiness rating is at 70%. That does go down daily so best to keep and eye on it