[Herr Brackhaus]

I'll retract my previous statement; tanks and other mil-spec gear is not the kind of thing your average shadowrunner is going to go up against, so it doesn't quite make sense to compare civilian equipment with military gear.

And you don't bring civilian gear to a war zone, so if you're going up against tanks chances are you're prepared for it.

The power creep is only problematic if you pit civilians against military operatives, and at that point it should be unbalanced. An M72 is not an FGM-148, and I'd liken the Aztechnology Striker more to the former than the latter.

[Mirikon]

Well said, Herr B. This is why all the real heavy military stuff usually is grouped in books just for milspec stuff. Because while it would be awesome to have the stats for a nuclear carrier,  we all know that no runner (except maybe Kane) is ever going to have one.

[Dinendae]

Because while it would be awesome to have the stats for a nuclear carrier,  we all know that no runner (except maybe Kane) is ever going to have one.

Kane should never be allowed in the same sentence as the word nuclear! NEVER! 

[PiXeL01]

That's just because he'd nuke aztlan if he had the chance

[Sendaz]

That's just because he'd nuke aztlan if he had the chance

You say that like it might be a bad thing.

[Wakshaani]

That's just because he'd nuke aztlan if he had the chance

You say that like it might be a bad thing.

Nukes tend to kill thinsg dead.

In teh 6th world tho, sometimes they wake things up...

[Mirikon]

That's just because he'd nuke aztlan if he had the chance

You say that like it might be a bad thing.

Nukes tend to kill thinsg dead.

In teh 6th world tho, sometimes they wake things up...

And given what little we know (and what more we suspect) about Aztlan, we probably don't want to wake those things up.

[Rift_0f_Bladz]

Rift_0f_Bladz
I have a hard time seeing how an anti-vehicle missile is anything but milspec tech, personally. Most civilians don't exactly go deer hunting with a rocket launcher...

And most people don't deal with an awakened world where carrying an equivalent to a Ruger .500 is just the cost of walking to the grocery store. The Javalin was designed to counter modern tank armor by targeting the weak armor on top since the front, side, and rear armor is now so heavy (plus all the new countermeasures to antitank weapons and explosives). So yeah, the antivehicle missile is (to me) more like a RPG-7 or other light man powered antivehicle weapons used in modern warfare. The Javalin is specifically designed for antitank or other hardened vehicles but usually the soldiers call in close air support to remove tanks because most man powered weapons don't even hurt it.

[Herr Brackhaus]

You must have missed my follow-up post, Rift

[Rift_0f_Bladz]

No, I saw it, just was replying to your comment, along with everyone else's and got slightly confused, I blam the lack of alcohol or maybe to much, not sure been a while since I posted that.

[SichoPhiend]

A quick search did nit turn this up, so I'll ask here.

The description for Gecko Grips for drones says

This allows it to climb vertical, or even hang upside
down, as long as the surface has a Barrier Rating at
least equal to the drone’s Body x 3.

But Barriers have 2 ratings, Structure and Armor, which do we use?  Or do we add both together?

[Herr Brackhaus]

Structure, would be my guess.

[Jack_Spade]

Both added together is the barrier rating/the pool you roll to resist damage.

[Wakshaani]

Structure's the right number, by the by.

[The Tekwych]

Nice coverage for this title at ICv2.com today. Good to see CGL making sure that the industry knows these books are coming.