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Catalyst Game Labs => Forum Business => Topic started by: Jackal on <09-03-10/2109:06>
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Nice choice on using SMF for the forum software. I've always liked it better than PHP. That said, with the lack of at least email authentication you can guarantee spam floods. I use the software for pretty much a nothing site, hidden in a sub-directory and I had to resort on using Member Approval (aka, every member had to be manually approved by me) and High Complexity on the visual verification.
Though honestly I don't think the visual verification stops anything other than people with bad eyes because I'm convinced the bots find a loophole around them. At the very least I'd require e-mail activation. But that's just me.
I've ran my own forums on and off over the years and for some reason I can not grasp, spammers still think that flooding forums is a good way to sell their cra....products....
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Email verification doesn't help. It didn't slow down Spammers on Dumpshock at all. Dunno how well visual worked.
Bull
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<snip>spammers still think that flooding forums is a good way to sell their cra....products....
Stupid Azzie Corp-hacks. Trust me, if they didn't keep the spam in their UV sector, I'd have killed it by now.
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shit, jackel... they'll let anyone in...
yeah, we'll see how this develops over the next few weeks, and see how security goes
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I've ran my own forums on and off over the years and for some reason I can not grasp, spammers still think that flooding forums is a good way to sell their cra....products....
The real problem here is the low cost of spamming. Spam works because it is so easy and cheap that even if less than 1 in 1000 buy something, the spam has made its sender a profit.
The only solution, other than filters, that would work, would be international regulation with international punishment.
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shit, jackel... they'll let anyone in...
yeah, we'll see how this develops over the next few weeks, and see how security goes
See, proof about the lack of security. ;)
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Spammers must think that Yahoo Groups (or at least mine) are not spam worthy then.
Granted my group isn't very active though.
But if those groups don't get alot of spam maybe they are doing something that works???
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Well, needless to say, if you check the members roster you'll already see spambot id's showing up. It honestly doesn't rake long for them to find new forums. Wish I knew a truely effective way to get rid of forum spammers for
good.
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Well, needless to say, if you check the members roster you'll already see spambot id's showing up. It honestly doesn't rake long for them to find new forums. Wish I knew a truely effective way to get rid of forum spammers for
good.
Nuclear bombardment from space.
Unfortunately, that would just leave the Corporate Court, Mars Colony and whoever else is up there left...
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Eh, it's why there are moderators here. After years of squirreling out and banning spambots on the Battletech forums, it's nothing new to do the same here. I've gotten pretty good at it- if anyone sees spam posts, keep doing what you've been doing and report them to the mods so we can teach them the error of their ways.
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Though honestly I don't think the visual verification stops anything other than people with bad eyes because I'm convinced the bots find a loophole around them.
You can get the code from GNAA's trollforge (http://www.gnaa.eu/browser/trollforge) backup if you want to try and find a way to beat the old bot algorithm used to read captchas. I imagine it has been improved since the original project died off a couple years ago. Just be careful. Those cats don't play nice.
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Is there a "moderate first post" option in SMF?
Requiring the first message from a new member be approved before it posts would really cut down on spammers.
It works great on the message boards I've moderated on Yahoogroups, the spammers mostly don't even try if the "moderate first post" option is turned on.
-k
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Email conformation is standard for forums these days. Email confirmation doesn't slow people down or piss people off. It's pretty much expected these days to gain access to any good public forum.
I can imagine having to wait for administrator membership approval or confirmation of your first post. Something like that on a public forum would annoy me far more.
How do other gaming co. forums handle these spam issues? Constant moderation? Captchas?
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Email conformation is standard for forums these days. Email confirmation doesn't slow people down or piss people off. It's pretty much expected these days to gain access to any good public forum.
I can imagine having to wait for administrator membership approval or confirmation of your first post. Something like that on a public forum would annoy me far more.
How do other gaming co. forums handle these spam issues? Constant moderation? Captchas?
Assassins. ;D
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Email conformation is standard for forums these days. Email confirmation doesn't slow people down or piss people off. It's pretty much expected these days to gain access to any good public forum.
I can imagine having to wait for administrator membership approval or confirmation of your first post. Something like that on a public forum would annoy me far more.
How do other gaming co. forums handle these spam issues? Constant moderation? Captchas?
Assassins. ;D
I am currently out of work if you have a target... - Anonymous runner X45
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Annd... this time nearly every forum and subforum got spammed tonight.
-k
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Yeah, and I goofed an reported each one... Sorry again mods.
Someone had better get that troll bouncer on his job this is getting ridiculous.
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SM has spam filters? And registering filters?
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SM has spam filters? And registering filters?
Maybe as an addon/plugin (that's why SR-PL forum got the same problem).
I'm an admin of SMF forum for 3+ years, and one day, I gonna block all .ch & .ru traffic (spambots attack through german IPs as well, but it's not fair to german fans to block them because of that...)
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Ever tried the Akismet spam protection?
In Wordpress, it works pretty well.
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=544
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Erm. Any Admin here? Those plugins would stop the spamming.
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... would PROBABLY and/or HOPEFULLY stop the spamming ...
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They will. Trust me, I use them in SMF boards all the time. Ok, maybe none of them is frequented like this one, but still...
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For some reason, I've had bad luck getting plugins to work. I install them, but they don't actually get in and work. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but then I'm not really a nuts-and-bolts web guy at all.
Jason H.
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We sure do have someone with that kond of skill here? Temporary admin privledges to fix it should be enough.
C'mon, guys? Anyone? Aren't you tired of spambots?
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*cough* I admit, I'm not a professional forum designer, but I am a web developer/designer... ;D
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I'll pass along the advice I got from the BattleTech forums' back-end admin:
Don't start installing custom modules in SMF. It can jack up your upgrade path, to the point that you can't upgrade an existing board. You have to install fresh.
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I don't know what that guy installed, but the idea behind all of the mod and module capabilities of SMF is to allow that and AVOID having to work your actual files, so you can always upgrade, because nothing gets actually changed.
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any way to get rid of the captcha on every post?
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any way to get rid of the captcha on every post?
I think it turns off after a certain number of posts.
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any way to get rid of the captcha on every post?
I think it turns off after a certain number of posts.
I don't think I've seen a captcha since I hit 'chummer'.
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yea, it's gone now, lol.