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Title: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Hephaestus on <06-11-19/1343:15>
Sorry in this has been asked before, but do we have any listing of which places will be selling the 6th ed starter boxes? The game is set to launch in 12 days, and none of my LGSs have any idea what I'm talking about. The only link I have found is on CSI, and I'm not sure if it is an official pre-order.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Shinobi Killfist on <06-11-19/1349:03>
Apparently alliance has it for pre order well everything but the super special $200 edition. So my store put in preorders for me. So if your store orders through alliance they should be able to find it. Maybe if they’d post the skews retailers might be able to find it easier.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Hephaestus on <06-11-19/1354:02>
I'm still waiting on the Rigger Dossier before I commit to pre-ordering anything, but yeah it would be good to know the product SKWs so I could.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Moonrunner on <06-12-19/0617:15>
The Beginner Box supposedly debuts at Origins today.  I wonder how long it will take to show up in local gaming stores. 

I wonder if they will still have copies by the time I get off work at 5:30 today.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Masablasta on <06-12-19/1814:23>
The Beginner Box supposedly debuts at Origins today.  I wonder how long it will take to show up in local gaming stores. 

I wonder if they will still have copies by the time I get off work at 5:30 today.
If you're going to Origins, would you be willing/able to pick up an extra copy of the bigginer box for a fellow fan who wasn't able to make it out this weekend?
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Singularity on <06-12-19/2155:18>
I'm still a bit confused on this: The box will be available at Origins, but is it also shipping to retailers as well, or do we have to wait longer before it ships? If the latter, is there any mention of an expected ship date?
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: FastJack on <06-12-19/2337:01>
I'm still a bit confused on this: The box will be available at Origins, but is it also shipping to retailers as well, or do we have to wait longer before it ships? If the latter, is there any mention of an expected ship date?
The street date outside of Origins is July 10th. Don't expect it before then, even if pre-ordered on Catalyst's store.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Singularity on <06-13-19/0013:56>
I'm still a bit confused on this: The box will be available at Origins, but is it also shipping to retailers as well, or do we have to wait longer before it ships? If the latter, is there any mention of an expected ship date?
The street date outside of Origins is July 10th. Don't expect it before then, even if pre-ordered on Catalyst's store.

Ah, thank you!
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Hephaestus on <06-14-19/1416:27>
So then I guess my follow-up question to all this is: Why is the web page displaying an edition launch of June 23rd, if nothing but the Streetpedia will be available until July 10th? I mean, if you didn't get a chance to go to (or be ninja'd for at) Origins, then your sitting on a 2 1/2 week gap without usable product.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: FastJack on <06-14-19/1723:19>
There is a difference between Launch Date and Street Date. Launch is when the product is available to a small group of individuals and industry people. At Origins, they brought a set number of the products to get the ball running and see how much interest is in it. Street Date is set for when they expect to have all of the product ready and available for the general public and distribution.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Hephaestus on <06-14-19/2000:32>
There is a difference between Launch Date and Street Date. Launch is when the product is available to a small group of individuals and industry people. At Origins, they brought a set number of the products to get the ball running and see how much interest is in it. Street Date is set for when they expect to have all of the product ready and available for the general public and distribution.

I get the difference. I also understand that production takes far more than a month, and longer than that to get it received, packaged, and shipped to distributors (assuming they don't drop-ship from the manufacturer straight to the distributors), so at this point they've most likely already finished their first run of the products. That means regardless of interest at Origins, they will still have a mountain of finished product to sell.

But since the starter boxes aren't out until July (was June in their Product Line-up post, but I guess that was just for people going to Origins), and the Core book isn't out until at least August, it feels a little disingenuous to say the Edition is "releasing" in just under 9 days. Just one person's opinion though.

Edit: I'll add to that, they have already sent out pre-release copies to Shadowcaster's Network and other game media outlets for unboxings, reviews, and demos, so I am wondering which small groups and industry people you're referring to.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: AJCarrington on <06-14-19/2309:52>
In the past, they have expedited small numbers of product for shows like Origins (either by having the printed locally or flying in) and I expect this year is no different. My guess is that the the digital version will release on the 23rd.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Tan Tin Geile on <06-15-19/0319:58>
There is a difference between Launch Date and Street Date. Launch is when the product is available to a small group of individuals and industry people. At Origins, they brought a set number of the products to get the ball running and see how much interest is in it. Street Date is set for when they expect to have all of the product ready and available for the general public and distribution.

I get the difference. I also understand that production takes far more than a month, and longer than that to get it received, packaged, and shipped to distributors (assuming they don't drop-ship from the manufacturer straight to the distributors), so at this point they've most likely already finished their first run of the products. That means regardless of interest at Origins, they will still have a mountain of finished product to sell.

But since the starter boxes aren't out until July (was June in their Product Line-up post, but I guess that was just for people going to Origins), and the Core book isn't out until at least August, it feels a little disingenuous to say the Edition is "releasing" in just under 9 days. Just one person's opinion though.

Edit: I'll add to that, they have already sent out pre-release copies to Shadowcaster's Network and other game media outlets for unboxings, reviews, and demos, so I am wondering which small groups and industry people you're referring to.

Personally I totally agree with you. From my perspective provided time line is more than confiusing and maybe worth is to supply community ( not small group of individuals or industry people) with an estimated dates of releases.

Edit: ok, in Origin post we have dates. BTW: anyone know soething about release date for different countries( i.e UK)?
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: AJCarrington on <06-15-19/1034:37>
I'm not sure how accurate these dates are, but Asmodee UK (Esdevium Games Ltd.) has the Streetpedia slated for release on week of June 17. My guess is that your FLGS should be able to reach out to their distributor to get a more accurate estimate
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Michael Chandra on <06-16-19/1350:08>
Annoying part of dates is that I don't know when the NDAs expire... -,- Ahwell, I'll just shut up about Beginner Box until I know for sure it's out there in the open.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Hephaestus on <06-17-19/1324:24>
Annoying part of dates is that I don't know when the NDAs expire... -,- Ahwell, I'll just shut up about Beginner Box until I know for sure it's out there in the open.

Considering there has already been a public unboxing video, what aspects of the Beginner Box are you not allowed to talk about?
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Michael Chandra on <06-18-19/0102:50>
Errata discussions? General comparison debates? Honestly I got no idea, but since it hasn't reached the streets yet, rather safe than sorry. I'd rather not be the one that is turned into an example for others.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Reaver on <06-19-19/1146:27>
Annoying part of dates is that I don't know when the NDAs expire... -,- Ahwell, I'll just shut up about Beginner Box until I know for sure it's out there in the open.

If there was not a fixed date in the NDA you signed.... then the fixed expiry date for an NDA is one day after you die...

(Be careful with NDAs... They can really bite you deep! I'm still under dozens of NDAs...) 
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Michael Chandra on <06-19-19/1209:08>
What if you get resurrected?

Hmm I wonder how dnd lawyers deal with that.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: tenchi2a on <06-19-19/1351:34>
Annoying part of dates is that I don't know when the NDAs expire... -,- Ahwell, I'll just shut up about Beginner Box until I know for sure it's out there in the open.

If there was not a fixed date in the NDA you signed.... then the fixed expiry date for an NDA is one day after you die...

(Be careful with NDAs... They can really bite you deep! I'm still under dozens of NDAs...)

If I remember correctly.
When it comes to a Product NDA, the effects expire 1 business week after the product content has become public knowledge unless otherwise outlined in the NDA.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Reaver on <06-19-19/1450:05>
Annoying part of dates is that I don't know when the NDAs expire... -,- Ahwell, I'll just shut up about Beginner Box until I know for sure it's out there in the open.

If there was not a fixed date in the NDA you signed.... then the fixed expiry date for an NDA is one day after you die...

(Be careful with NDAs... They can really bite you deep! I'm still under dozens of NDAs...)

If I remember correctly.
When it comes to a Product NDA, the effects expire 1 business week after the product content has become public knowledge unless otherwise outlined in the NDA.

That could be. I deal in "Process", "Design" and "I.P" NDAs all the time due to Construction contracts....
All I will say is; If you believe the Corp lawyers, every corp has a patented way to boil an egg, and if you tell another corp how they do it, you'll be old and grey before you see the outside of a court room.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Hephaestus on <06-20-19/2109:43>
Most of the NDAs I have to deal with (industrial/aerospace) have clause that anything that is "public knowledge" falls outside the NDA.

Since the Beginner Boxes have been sold to the public, and people have been posting pictures of the contents, I would say you are now in "public knowledge" territory, same as the Streetpedia. I don't think you'll be able to discuss the core book, but any rules contained in the Beginner Box should be fair game.
Title: Re: Sixth Ed Distribution
Post by: Singularity on <06-21-19/0529:54>
Most of the NDAs I have to deal with (industrial/aerospace) have clause that anything that is "public knowledge" falls outside the NDA.

Since the Beginner Boxes have been sold to the public, and people have been posting pictures of the contents, I would say you are now in "public knowledge" territory, same as the Streetpedia. I don't think you'll be able to discuss the core book, but any rules contained in the Beginner Box should be fair game.

Perhaps, but it may be better to ask someone from Catalyst with the authority first, just to be legally safe.