[Mirikon]

And on Sons of Guns, they took a FA grenade launcher, and not only made it select fire, but they SUPPRESSED it as well!

[CanRay]

I have once seen a demonstration video where they used one to attack a tank. The tank actually jumped up from the ground a couple of times before exploding in a huge fireball. 40 tons of steel jumping from impact!
The issue with it as a weapon for a shadowrunner is that the A-10 main gun is bigger than a car and not really portable.



Rasmus

"So...  We can totally fit that in the back of a box trailer, right?"  "Oh yeah!  Surprise the hell out of anyone that wonders why we're using a Semi to get away!"

[JustADude]

The issue with it as a weapon for a shadowrunner is that the A-10 main gun is bigger than a car and not really portable.

Yes, well, adding FA doesn't make the Panther a minigun, and one must also assume there have been some advances in miniaturization from the 1960s to the 2070s.

Plus, unlike the GA/U-8, the Panther doesn't have the capability to sustain full auto for more than a single burst before it runs out of ammo and needs to be reloaded, so all the extra bulk for ammo feeds, and the super-huge barrel wouldn't need to be there to begin with since it doesn't have a GA/U-8's range.

[Mirikon]

You could mod the Panther to be belt-fed.

[CanRay]

You could mod the Panther to be belt-fed.

Don't give me ideas.  My group already hates it when I go, "I'm adding more violence!"

[Zilfer]

The issue with it as a weapon for a shadowrunner is that the A-10 main gun is bigger than a car and not really portable.

Yes, well, adding FA doesn't make the Panther a minigun, and one must also assume there have been some advances in miniaturization from the 1960s to the 2070s.

Plus, unlike the GA/U-8, the Panther doesn't have the capability to sustain full auto for more than a single burst before it runs out of ammo and needs to be reloaded, so all the extra bulk for ammo feeds, and the super-huge barrel wouldn't need to be there to begin with since it doesn't have a GA/U-8's range.

Add a drum?

[JustADude]

You could mod the Panther to be belt-fed.

Don't give me ideas.  My group already hates it when I go, "I'm adding more violence!"

You should come join my group. I'm running a team of Saeder-Krupp "Troubleshooters". All sorts of perks, including a wall-sized Trid-viewer in the common lounge leading to the team's fully furnished apartments, S-K Security Force status letting you openly carry all sorts of fun toys that would get a normal Runner locked up, a Megacorp-grade equipment budget to buy those toys with and, best of all, FREE AMMO!

[Sichr]

Just enter another corporations turf and you will see how much of use is that S-K security badge you wear. I.E. Ares...
following comunication:
S-K: We got a group of specialists operating in the area.
A.M: We never seen anyone like those men on ID pictures you sent us. Have a nice day...

[JustADude]

Just enter another corporations turf and you will see how much of use is that S-K security badge you wear. I.E. Ares...
following comunication:
S-K: We got a group of specialists operating in the area.
A.M: We never seen anyone like those men on ID pictures you sent us. Have a nice day...

Except that they're on sanctioned operations, which means they're not going to be stepping on Ares "extra-territorial" toes, and can yell for help if they get blind-sided by an ambush... which is to say, I'm not looking to go there at this time. The game is, at least for now, more about dealing with overt, above-board stuff... like going after Runners to retrieve stolen goods, dealing with threats like Insect Hives, etc.

It's to provide a contrast to our Missions campaign, which requires a more... subtle... play style.

[Zilfer]

Besides' Ares wouldn't get their hands dirty if they wanted to kill them, they'd just hire shadowrunners to take them out so that they "weren't involved". XD

[CanRay]

You should come join my group. I'm running a team of Saeder-Krupp "Troubleshooters". All sorts of perks, including a wall-sized Trid-viewer in the common lounge leading to the team's fully furnished apartments, S-K Security Force status letting you openly carry all sorts of fun toys that would get a normal Runner locked up, a Megacorp-grade equipment budget to buy those toys with and, best of all, FREE AMMO!

Thanks, just tease me all the more...

I just wanna play.   

[Ravenspoe]

I just wanted to thank everyone on this thread who took the time to help me grok the rules.
It took awhile to sink in, but I am pretty confident in running the game now.
What really confused me was the quick rules that came with the Runner's Toolkit. If I remove 7-10 and add them in when I need to, it all become clear. Now to try and get Magic down.

Thanks again everybody!