Shadowrun
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Hey guys,
I'm currently looking for something good to watch that's to do with Shadowrun.
Recently, I've taken to watching some anime again. So, I guess that, right now, it's my preferred media for entertainment (other than music!).
I'm interested to know by the forum's anime enthusiasts if there are any really good anime they'd recommend that could relate to Shadowrun.
Like, say:
Akira
Silent Möbius
Ghost in the Shell
Ergo Proxy (to some extent)
Bubblegum Crisis (again, to a certain extent)
A.D Police (lone Star side of things?)
Thanks in advance!
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Cowboy Bebop
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Cowboy Bebop
A bazillion times this.
Also, Gunslinger Girl.
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Cowboy Bebop
A bazillion times this.
I've seen it, many years ago when it came out.
And since I don't remember it all that well, methinks I'll pick it up and re-watch it!
Also, Gunslinger Girl.
That, I haven't seen. I'll have a quick google and read about it. :)
Edit: Googled and OoooO looks like my kind of thing!
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The Manga for Gunslinger Girl was better.
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Black Lagoon ?
Gun Smith Cats ?
HokaHey
Medicineman
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The Manga for Gunslinger Girl was better.
Duly noted. I'll pick that up as well!
...Gonna be a very expensive Montreal trip tomorrow!
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Black Lagoon ?
Gunsmith Cats ?
HokaHey
Medicineman
Both highly suggested. Gunsmith Cats actually made me feel better about myself, as Japan has even more draconian laws against firearms than Canada does, and the creator is a bigger gun nut than I am. :P Also, really, really nice cars!
Black Lagoon is a troop of Pink Mohawks trying to get by, with one former Wageslave that's really out of his element. (Honestly, I don't know why they keep him around other than to do the books.).
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Black Lagoon ?
Gunsmith Cats ?
HokaHey
Medicineman
Both highly suggested. Gunsmith Cats actually made me feel better about myself, as Japan has even more draconian laws against firearms than Canada does, and the creator is a bigger gun nut than I am. :P Also, really, really nice cars!
Black Lagoon is a troop of Pink Mohawks trying to get by, with one former Wageslave that's really out of his element. (Honestly, I don't know why they keep him around other than to do the books.).
I've read Gunsmith Cats, is there an anime?
Black Lagoon, someone mentioned in another thread (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=4458.0): wanted to take from that anime's setting and integrate it in SR. Looks like it's a whole lotta fun!
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Gunsmith Cats has three episodes that is essentially one movie. I got the DVD while at GenCon Indy 2004.
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Gunsmith Cats has three episodes that is essentially one movie. I got the DVD while at GenCon Indy 2004.
Coolness. I'll grab a copy should I come across it.
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The manga is insanely detailed, although my copies appeared weird until I found out they were mirror-reversed.
I was wondering for the longest time why everyone was left handed and they were in Chicago, England. :P
EDIT: Same guy did Bean Bandit (Who shows up in the Gunsmith Cats Manga), and is an excellent example of a cybered-out Rigger.
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The manga is insanely detailed, although my copies appeared weird until I found out they were mirror-reversed.
I was wondering for the longest time why everyone was left handed and they were in Chicago, England. :P
EDIT: Same guy did Bean Bandit (Who shows up in the Gunsmith Cats Manga), and is an excellent example of a cybered-out Rigger.
Yeah, I know Bean Bandit.
The author and artist is Kenichi Sonoda: the guy who did the character designs for the old Bubblegum Crisis OVA (which remains to this day one of my personal faves, even if cheesy and sorta simple-minded).
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I am now ashamed to admit that I just realized that Nas is just an elven Bean Bandit...
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I am now ashamed to admit that I just realized that Nas is just an elven Bean Bandit...
Hahaha!
You shouldn't be ashamed, though. There's an unwritten roleplayer rule that goes along the lines of: "If it's cool, use it!"
It's not like copyright infringement is necessarily something to consider when gaming around the RPG table (so long as you don't actually publish anything you've paid homage to!)
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The shame is that I didn't even realize it.
Or maybe I just wanted a big, buff Elf that gets mistaken for a human constantly... Not sure which...
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The shame is that I didn't even realize it.
I'm sure each one of us picks up ideas like that and then use them without realizing it's something off of another thing which really left us with a good impression.
I know it happens to me a whole lot!
Or maybe I just wanted a big, buff Elf that gets mistaken for a human constantly... Not sure which...
Hahaha, cool. A buff elf people mistake for a human. Another one of those anti-stereotypical concepts. Them's iz funz.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armitage_III
This.
Very much this!
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Durarara(Drrr) No pink mohawk or anything, set in tokyo with a supernatural killer whois possed by their sword, a modern day headless rider who's swapped their horse for a motorbike, a super strong (high pain tolerance 12) guy who likes to throw things, a mastermind who thinks he's better then anyone else, and others, overall very good watch.
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex No one had mentioned the series specifically, I found them to be better then the movies (2nd one for sure... 1st movie was much better than that though)
Battle Angel Alita
Appleseed
Paprika
Solty Rei
erp gotta run
enjoy these
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armitage_III
This.
Very much this!
Yes! I loved Armitage the Third!
Heck, I've got most of its OST in my IPod!
Durarara(Drrr) No pink mohawk or anything, set in tokyo with a supernatural killer whois possed by their sword, a modern day headless rider who's swapped their horse for a motorbike, a super strong (high pain tolerance 12) guy who likes to throw things, a mastermind who thinks he's better then anyone else, and others, overall very good watch.
Durarara! Was awesome. I wasn't expecting to like it, but I very much did. I really dig the whole theme, the setting, and the characters.
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex No one had mentioned the series specifically, I found them to be better then the movies (2nd one for sure... 1st movie was much better than that though)
Battle Angel Alita
Appleseed
Paprika
Solty Rei
erp gotta run
enjoy these
Battle Angel Alita was something I was very much looking forward to seeing at the time, given that I was deep into the manga. It's very awesome and very Shadowrun, imo --kind of Redmond Barrens, too. Just with higher levels of tech.
Appleseed... Ugh. Loved the manga (still do!), have yet to see a good version of it for Anime. I've seen the first one, I've seen the one they made in 2004 -- the CGI one, don't recall the name off the top of my head. Have yet to see Deus Ex, not sure if I should!
Not seen Paprika, nor Solty Rei.
Thanks for sharing! I'll be sure to look 'em up soon-ishly.
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A couple of others you might want to consider:
Vexille
Golgo 13 (2008)
Summer Wars - very little "SR" related, but really cool visualization of the "matrix" and a rogue AI...a really good movie.
For me, Netflix has been a godsend for watching anime...
AJC
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A couple of others you might want to consider:
Vexille
Golgo 13 (2008)
Summer Wars - very little "SR" related, but really cool visualization of the "matrix" and a rogue AI...a really good movie.
For me, Netflix has been a godsend for watching anime...
AJC
Golgo 13, the title looks familiar.
Never heard of Vexille, so I'll look it up!
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Golgo 13 was a manga for a long, long time and had an NES game as well. Quite an adult series. He's the world's most effective assassin.
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Golgo 13 was a manga for a long, long time and had an NES game as well. Quite an adult series. He's the world's most effective assassin.
Oh yeah. I kind of, sort of remember it.
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Burst Angel. OK, its pure anime cheese...but its not all bad cheese. It's very much pink mohawk, but a lot of the elements reminded me of SR. The core group do "odd jobs" for one of the group members, who has ties to a chinese crime family. The lead character is a gun-slinging girl with a mysterious past, another is a computer wiz who is a great example of a SR-type hacker, and the plucky sidekick with a big gun. The setting looks a lot like what I imagine SR to look like in Tokyo/Japan. Take away the obligitory huge twin gun wielding mecha and its basically SR.
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Burst Angel. OK, its pure anime cheese...but its not all bad cheese. It's very much pink mohawk, but a lot of the elements reminded me of SR. The core group do "odd jobs" for one of the group members, who has ties to a chinese crime family. The lead character is a gun-slinging girl with a mysterious past, another is a computer wiz who is a great example of a SR-type hacker, and the plucky sidekick with a big gun. The setting looks a lot like what I imagine SR to look like in Tokyo/Japan. Take away the obligitory huge twin gun wielding mecha and its basically SR.
Hmm, know what? It does look kinda cheesy. However, considering that's never been anything keeping me from enjoying stuff, I might look it up over the weekend.
Thanks for the suggestion!
PS: I now haz a long list of new stuffs to look up and enjoy. This is some w00tness.
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OK, sorry if this was already mentioned. Even though they're not anime or movie, or cyberpunk, nor magical, and take place in 2011; I would highly recommend the TV shows Burn Notice and Leverage. Both are quitiessencial shadowrun-type teams doing shadow-run type runs. Although, I think Burn Notice is a lot more fun, IMHO.
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OK, sorry if this was already mentioned. Even though they're not anime or movie, or cyberpunk, nor magical, and take place in 2011; I would highly recommend the TV shows Burn Notice and Leverage. Both are quitiessencial shadowrun-type teams doing shadow-run type runs. Although, I think Burn Notice is a lot more fun, IMHO.
Burn Notice happens to be one of my favorite series to watch. :)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armitage_III
This.
Very much this!
Yes! I loved Armitage the Third!
Heck, I've got most of its OST in my IPod!
i've got all of it on my streak 5 ^^
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armitage_III
This.
Very much this!
Yes! I loved Armitage the Third!
Heck, I've got most of its OST in my IPod!
i've got all of it on my streak 5 ^^
Awesome!
That anime is really good, and the music is just awesome. Very Shadowrun, imo
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armitage_III
This.
Very much this!
Yes! I loved Armitage the Third!
Heck, I've got most of its OST in my IPod!
i've got all of it on my streak 5 ^^
Awesome!
That anime is really good, and the music is just awesome. Very Shadowrun, imo
I have the anime on my Streak 5 too ^^
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armitage_III
This.
Very much this!
Yes! I loved Armitage the Third!
Heck, I've got most of its OST in my IPod!
i've got all of it on my streak 5 ^^
Awesome!
That anime is really good, and the music is just awesome. Very Shadowrun, imo
I have the anime on my Streak 5 too ^^
... all of it? :o
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Thanks for the heads-up on Armitage III - had missed this title somehow previously. Now in queue for future viewing... ;D
AJC
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armitage_III
This.
Very much this!
Yes! I loved Armitage the Third!
Heck, I've got most of its OST in my IPod!
i've got all of it on my streak 5 ^^
Awesome!
That anime is really good, and the music is just awesome. Very Shadowrun, imo
I have the anime on my Streak 5 too ^^
... all of it? :o
Sure, 32GB SDHC Card makes it all possible ^^
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Sure, 32GB SDHC Card makes it all possible ^^
Meh. My mp3 player (which I repeatedly refer to an IPod, even if I haven't owned an Ipod in years -- It's a Sony Serie E Walkman) only has 8 Gb: all of which is muuuuuusic. :)
Though I do have about 2 Gb free. I could probably fit it all in. How big a file is it? I mean, it's what? 3, 4 episodes? Can't remember off the top of my head (and, amusingly enough, I've never actually thought fitting in an anime in there, or a movie, or anyfink video :P)
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2GB could be enough, actually . . i am not sure, forget my streak at home, no way to check from work <.<
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I've already brought up Lupin the Third in one other thread. But yeah, you could play pretty much any member of Lupin's gang in Shadowrun.
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2GB could be enough, actually . . i am not sure, forget my streak at home, no way to check from work <.<
Funny story: I've actually almost filled up my mp3 player today. So no room left for anime! Rofl
I've already brought up Lupin the Third in one other thread. But yeah, you could play pretty much any member of Lupin's gang in Shadowrun.
Hahaha, Rupan!
Man... Castle Cagliostro... that takes me way back...
I think they made several more movies, and possibly a TV series as well. Cagliostro's the only one I've seen, however (and it's old!)
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Cagliostro was boss!
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It was a cool film. But Lupin himself was waaay too much of a nice guy for my tastes in that one. Maybe I'm just too used to the slightly principled bastard in the old series or the downright unprincipled magnificent bastard Manga Version.
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I cannot believe that this thread has gone on for as long as it has without anyone mentioning Ronin.
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Ronin
Excellent call on this one...hadn't even been thinking about non-anime films.... :-\
AJC
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Jin-Roh?
Spriggan?
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I cannot believe that this thread has gone on for as long as it has without anyone mentioning Ronin.
I use "Ronin" as an example of what Shadowrun is more than any Cyberpunk movie.
Mainly because no one has done a proper job of damned well making one!!! >:(
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Johnny Mnemonic? *runs for his life*
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Johnny Mnemonic? *runs for his life*
The closest we've seen.
They need to stop hiring Keanu Reeves to do these jobs. It's like the executives (You know, the idiots who couldn't figure out how to make movies, so they manage the money instead?) go, "Oh, it's a Cyberpunk movie. Find out if that Canadian guy that was in Bill and Ted is available."
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Reeves' acting was actually pretty damn good in Johnny Mnemonic.
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[spoiler]Come to think of it, why doesn't Shadowrun have Hacker Dolphins?[/spoiler]
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Reeves is not an actor. Actors take on roles. He just recites lines.
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Reeves' acting was actually pretty damn good in Johnny Mnemonic.
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[spoiler]Come to think of it, why doesn't Shadowrun have Hacker Dolphins?[/spoiler]
Emergent Critters.
SR now officially has Lolcats . .
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Actually, there are Technomancer Dolphins.
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Seaworld must be a riot.
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Yeah, what with the Dolphins hung from Lampposts with "MONSTER" carved into them. :o
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Hey hey hey, don't pull the Technomancer card for that. Those Dolphins were fucking killers.
[spoiler](http://drmcninja.com/comics/2009-06-0214p70.jpg)[/spoiler]
I'm not saying I agree with Mob Justice, but something had to be done.
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Those are wild Dolphins, RC. The ones at SeaWorld aren't nearly as hostile or violent.
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Well, as long as the snotty nosed little brats don't tap the glass *TOO* much. The sonic vibrations can give you such a migraine!
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Mardock Scramble: The First Compression looks to be great Cyberpunk noir. Prositute is almost murdered, saved by a black clinic doc and turned into what's basically a cyber/bioed technomancer.
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I'll throw in my shadow run media list.
starting with live action stuff since most of the anime I'd mention has already been shared. :P some classics omitted because I'm sure everyone here already knows them
Live free die hard (aka die hard 4) >the teams upon teams of shadow runner types, hackers, proxy hackers, wet-work/clean up crews, all good stuff.
District B13 french film with a lot of serious free running, basically set inside a z-zone in paris. a pretty serious "hooding" style plot.
The mechanic is a good wet work style shadow run-ish movie
Smoking aces a wet work SR gone nuts with a twist.
Conspiracy Theory/enemy of the state examples of how hardcore it could be to try and hide from people in SR at least to degree.
Hackers gets refenced a lot for the matrix types.
speaking of the matrix go for matrix 1.
All the Borne movies because jason borne would be an amazing shadow runner.
the italian job is a good not killing everyone SR movie just in the case of pulling complicated heists team composition and getting even.
That's all that comes to mind right now though, Enjoy ;D
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The Oceans movies, if you're looking at high profile targets.
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Maybe it is stretching it a bit, but I would also recommend HEAT. DeNiro's crew is a perfect team for a run, just in this case it's an old fasioned bank robbery. Their tactics could also be for just about any run. And Pachino's cop is a great example of Lone Star, KE, or any other law/power trying to stop them.
I also liked the heist in the beginning of Bad Boys, Beverly Hills Cop 2, and the Joker's robbery in The Dark Knight.
And while I'm on the subject of movies, anyone else think that Big Trouble in Little China could be the basis for a great run? Runner's love is kidnapped, a team is assembled and goes to rescure her from the evil wizard's (or in this case mage?) stronghold. I mean come on, with that knife move at the end, Jack Burton HAS to be some kind of adept along with his friend Wang. It has magic, gangs, and is just cool.
With one more thing....anyone else seen the trailer for Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol and NOT think Shadowrun?
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And while I'm on the subject of movies, anyone else think that Big Trouble in Little China could be the basis for a great run? Runner's love is kidnapped, a team is assembled and goes to rescure her from the evil wizard's (or in this case mage?) stronghold. I mean come on, with that knife move at the end, Jack Burton HAS to be some kind of adept along with his friend Wang. It has magic, gangs, and is just cool.
This. Idea. Is. Awesome.
With one more thing....anyone else seen the trailer for Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol and NOT think Shadowrun?
Really. It sort of looked Minority Report-ish to me for some reason (and not necessarily because of Tom Cruise), not that it's a bad thing. Loved that movie.
Johnny Mnemonic? *runs for his life*
That's a very Shadowrun-esque movie, certainly. It's one of the many references I always think of first when presenting the game to new people.
Speaking of SR movies... anyone seen Babylon AD? Not a very good movie, I thought, but fun and entertaining and a solid SR reference, imo.
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Speaking of SR movies... anyone seen Babylon AD? Not a very good movie, I thought, but fun and entertaining and a solid SR reference, imo.
Yep...actually didn't mind it - good call.
AJC
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Speaking of SR movies... anyone seen Babylon AD? Not a very good movie, I thought, but fun and entertaining and a solid SR reference, imo.
Yep...actually didn't mind it - good call.
AJC
the movie is not have bad at all, its just the ending and that makes more sense once you read the book.
otherwise it can be used as example of SR a setting
The ending just does not translate well into movie terms
read the book, Vin Diesel character is lot more tougher in the book
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Speaking of SR movies... anyone seen Babylon AD? Not a very good movie, I thought, but fun and entertaining and a solid SR reference, imo.
Yep...actually didn't mind it - good call.
AJC
the movie is not have bad at all, its just the ending and that makes more sense once you read the book.
otherwise it can be used as example of SR a setting
The ending just does not translate well into movie terms
read the book, Vin Diesel character is lot more tougher in the book
I'll do that, methinks.
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Here we go, with music. (http://youtu.be/6mcJgTf6mq8)
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Here we go, with music. (http://youtu.be/6mcJgTf6mq8)
Pretty cool!
Black Lagoon... an excellent friend of mine who happened to visit a bare few days ago highly recommends it. So, yeah. I'll definitely have to get a copy soon.
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Even though its been said twice: Black Lagoon. Still doing my best to make SR Roanapur not look too much like the original, but sometimes the best thing to do is call it something between a feral and normal city and run with it.
But yeah, BL is basically shadowrunning in the 90's, which is why I'm so fixated on bringing that city forward to the 2070's. Still mot sure if any megas would be trying to muscle in though.
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I have long toyed with the idea of making a shadow run set in the 90's via adapted 4th ed rules....
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Even though its been said twice: Black Lagoon. Still doing my best to make SR Roanapur not look too much like the original, but sometimes the best thing to do is call it something between a feral and normal city and run with it.
But yeah, BL is basically shadowrunning in the 90's, which is why I'm so fixated on bringing that city forward to the 2070's. Still mot sure if any megas would be trying to muscle in though.
Roanapur: Where you really really need to beware of folks wearing maid outfits, and where the girls will kick your ass.
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While neither anime or a movie. The live action tv series Max Headroom, I brought up in another thread, was very near future dystopian society similiar to William Gibson's material.
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Even though its been said twice: Black Lagoon. Still doing my best to make SR Roanapur not look too much like the original, but sometimes the best thing to do is call it something between a feral and normal city and run with it.
But yeah, BL is basically shadowrunning in the 90's, which is why I'm so fixated on bringing that city forward to the 2070's. Still mot sure if any megas would be trying to muscle in though.
Roanapur: Where you really really need to beware of folks wearing maid outfits, and where the girls will kick your ass.
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I know, right? An all of the girls are hot and at least a Little unhinged. I' still trying to figure out if the corps have some small time conclaves or something there, but they are definately not in control, or anywhere near that, with no LS or KE to back them up.
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The Losers is one of the best examples of how a well oiled team should work, and it has a plethora of double-crosses
How did this thread go on for so long without a mention of Equilibrium? I haven't met a signal person that has NOT tried to make a gunslinger adept based on the Grammaton Cleric.
And speaking of Chris Evans (Jenson in Losers), Push is chock full of mages and adepts.
The aforementioned Appleseed Deus Ex is a perfect example of cyberware, hackers, and megacorps
Big Trouble in Little China is a must see, especially for the mix of "reality" and mysticism
There is a long list of movies that feel like SR and I could go on for a long time as this is a list I've created myself, but these are the ones I use for mood setting and inspiration.
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How did this thread go on for so long without a mention of Equilibrium? I haven't met a signal person that has NOT tried to make a gunslinger adept based on the Grammaton Cleric.
Wow - I never knew this movie existed until now. Must see this!
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How did this thread go on for so long without a mention of Equilibrium? I haven't met a signal person that has NOT tried to make a gunslinger adept based on the Grammaton Cleric.
Wow - I never knew this movie existed until now. Must see this!
It's definitely worth the watch, especially to see how Gun-Fu would work.
[spoiler]And it's yet another film where Sean Bean dies. If he had a nickel for each movie/tv show he died in, he'd be rich. ;)[/spoiler]
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How did this thread go on for so long without a mention of Equilibrium? I haven't met a signal person that has NOT tried to make a gunslinger adept based on the Grammaton Cleric.
Wow - I never knew this movie existed until now. Must see this!
Definetly
And get Yourself an Uncut Version !
with an uncut Dan
Medicinema
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I'm mortified that the line I've been quoted on so many times has a typo. 'Signal' was obviously supposed to be 'single', but my swype spellchecker has it in for me
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How did this thread go on for so long without a mention of Equilibrium? I haven't met a signal person that has NOT tried to make a gunslinger adept based on the Grammaton Cleric.
Wow - I never knew this movie existed until now. Must see this!
The first ten minutes or so of the movie, to whet your appetite. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=pzKBC3agDRA)
Dunno how long it will be up.
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How did this thread go on for so long without a mention of Equilibrium? I haven't met a signal person that has NOT tried to make a gunslinger adept based on the Grammaton Cleric.
Wow - I never knew this movie existed until now. Must see this!
Definetly
And get Yourself an Uncut Version !
with an uncut Dan
Medicinema
Mmmmm - Uncut...
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How did this thread go on for so long without a mention of Equilibrium? I haven't met a signal person that has NOT tried to make a gunslinger adept based on the Grammaton Cleric.
Wow - I never knew this movie existed until now. Must see this!
Definetly
And get Yourself an Uncut Version !
with an uncut Dan
Medicinema
Mmmmm - Uncut...
Ugh, the 'Priest' character build. I didn't even know about that movie until I began an SR4 campaign and one of the PCs blurted out that he wanted to make such a character. He's thus far been rather disappointed due to the availability of Wired Reflexes.
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Ugh, the 'Priest' character build. I didn't even know about that movie until I began an SR4 campaign and one of the PCs blurted out that he wanted to make such a character. He's thus far been rather disappointed due to the availability of Wired Reflexes.
Adept. Have a nice day. ;D
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As far as anime/Manga and movies to give people the feel of shadowrun, here's my list (some may have been already mentioned). Note, these aren't all direct lead-ins to Shadowrun, but they do display some of the mindset of people/corps, or give a good analogy for certain aspects of the Sixth World (like the Matrix).
Ghost in the Shell (including Stand Alone Complex)
Black Lagoon
Blade Runner
Johnny Mnemonic
Lawnmower Man
Hackers
Oceans' Eleven
Sneakers
Gone in Sixty Seconds
The Maltese Falcon
Road to Perdition
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Sneakers is still the only Hacker movie I can watch without venting my spleen with, "Oh dear $Deity, that is *NOT* how computer systems work!!!"
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OK, and Die Hard 4.0, but that's only because it's a Die Hard movie and has no basis in reality whatsoever and is not ashamed of it.
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Sneakers is still the only Hacker movie I can watch without venting my spleen with, "Oh dear $Deity, that is *NOT* how computer systems work!!!"
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OK, and Die Hard 4.0, but that's only because it's a Die Hard movie and has no basis in reality whatsoever and is not ashamed of it.
That would be either the greatest or worst double-feature ever.-
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That would be either the greatest or worst double-feature ever.-
I know what I'm watching after today's SR4 game!
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I'd make it a triple-feature with Rocky Horror. ;D
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I'd make it a triple-feature with Rocky Horror.
I don't own that movie, mainly because it's overrated crap. The only thing positive I can say about it is the movie has a great soundtrack, which I do own.
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Heathen!
Is it 'quality cinema'? Of course not. But there's few better sources of 'let your hair down and go crazy with friends'. Gotta love going to a convention where a group is doing the shadowcast, and sitting with the people who start doing the audience responses.
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Heathen!
Is it 'quality cinema'? Of course not. But there's few better sources of 'let your hair down and go crazy with friends'. Gotta love going to a convention where a group is doing the shadowcast, and sitting with the people who start doing the audience responses.
I tend to agree with PeterSmith, though I must tread carefully as SWMBO likes it.
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Gotta love going to a convention where a group is doing the shadowcast, and sitting with the people who start doing the audience responses.
That's one of my biggest issues, actually. Everybody feels they have to have a part in the movie/performance. That's the fastest way to ruin a movie for me.
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When you go to see Rocky Horror, you're not going to see a movie. You're going for the total experience. Likewise, if you go into Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla expecting hard-hitting social commentary or anything except two people in rubber suits laying waste to Tokyo for the fiftieth time, then you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
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When you go to see Rocky Horror, you're not going to see a movie. You're going for the total experience.
Wrong. When *I* go to see a movie, *I* go to watch a movie. The extra crap that goes on around me is just that: crap. That it's so pervasive means I cannot watch the movie without being disturbed by that which is going on around me, short of watching it at home. Since my home theater setup is apartment-grade, it means if I want to watch a big screen I have to head to a theater.
Likewise, if you go into Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla expecting hard-hitting social commentary or anything except two people in rubber suits laying waste to Tokyo for the fiftieth time, then you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
I'd expect laughter, gasps, or other excited utterances. I would not expect to have audience participation, nor would I want it.
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When you go to see Rocky Horror, you're not going to see a movie. You're going for the total experience.
Wrong. When *I* go to see a movie, *I* go to watch a movie. The extra crap that goes on around me is just that: crap. That it's so pervasive means I cannot watch the movie without being disturbed by that which is going on around me, short of watching it at home. Since my home theater setup is apartment-grade, it means if I want to watch a big screen I have to head to a theater.
Likewise, if you go into Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla expecting hard-hitting social commentary or anything except two people in rubber suits laying waste to Tokyo for the fiftieth time, then you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
I'd expect laughter, gasps, or other excited utterances. I would not expect to have audience participation, nor would I want it.
Ah, but there are some that do. I don't always want participation, but if it's a movie where that's part of the experience, that's why I'll be going.
Then there's the times when my friends and I find ourselves in a movie so horrible that Joel, Mike and the 'Bots possess our bodies and we do the entertaining.
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When you go to see Rocky Horror, you're not going to see a movie. You're going for the total experience.
Wrong. When *I* go to see a movie, *I* go to watch a movie. The extra crap that goes on around me is just that: crap. That it's so pervasive means I cannot watch the movie without being disturbed by that which is going on around me, short of watching it at home. Since my home theater setup is apartment-grade, it means if I want to watch a big screen I have to head to a theater.
And that is why you don't love Rocky Horror. If you go in looking for the wrong things, then you will be disappointed. This is true no matter what quality of film you're going to see. Gone With the Wind is utterly horrible if you're looking for explosions and cavalry charges. Private York is drek if you're looking for swashbuckling swordplay. Star Wars is utterly horrible if you're looking for a western gunslinger. And Blade Runner is utterly unwatchable if you're looking for something bright and happy.
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Saving Private Ryan is utterly terrible as a comedy.
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Saving Private Ryan is utterly terrible as a comedy.
I dunno about you guys, but I laughed like crazy when Upham shot the nazi guy.