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Off-topic => Off-off-topic => Topic started by: FastJack on <09-17-10/1119:14>
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Okay, so we're bogging/derailing a bunch of other threads with all our Firefly/Serenity references and quotes, I figured I'd put this topic in the Off-Off-Topic forum ;)
Some links:
Firefly Chinese Pinyinary (http://fireflychinese.kevinsullivansite.net/) - Translations of some of your favorite Firefly Chinese quotes.
Common Firefly curses (http://www.associatepublisher.com/e/l/li/list_of_firefly_curse_words.htm)
A truly cunning hat (http://www.etsy.com/listing/54678268/jayne-cobb-style-crocheted-hat-firefly)
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Firefly sucked, and Whedon is a hack.
That is all
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DMFD!
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Firefly sucked, and Whedon is a hack.
That is all
Pfft. Firefly is the best scifi show ever made.
Now try to name one better, so I can tell you you are wrong. lol :D
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Firefly sucked, and Whedon is a hack.
That is all
*sniff* *sniff*
Caine, you just brought a tear to my eye. It's refreshing to find somebody who has the same opinion of Whedon.
Pfft. Firefly is the best scifi show ever made.
Now try to name one better, so I can tell you you are wrong. lol :D
Joker, the only work of Whedon that I find acceptable is when he's playing in somebody else's sandbox. Screenplay for Toy Story? Awesome. Buffy/Angel? Crap. I had to suffer through Buffy as tradeoff for watching wrestling back when I both dating a girl who loved Buffy and had any passing interest in the WWF. Whedon can't write a joke to save his life, they all go on about a sentence too long. Firefly, Dollhouse? The guy can't keep his sci-fi on the air for more than a season. Yes, I know Dollhouse was on the air for two seasons. They were each half a season long.
As to your challenge, I'll drop RDM's Battlestar Galactica and Deep Space Nine.
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Okay... Hold on a minute.
Why come in here and hate on us? This is a thread for fans of Whedon, not for people to call him crap. >:(
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Firefly sucked, and Whedon is a hack.
That is all
Pfft. Firefly is the best scifi show ever made.
Now try to name one better, so I can tell you you are wrong. lol :D
The cast was attractive I'll give them that. But it was a hodgepodge of ideas with a junior-level novel's plot. It wasn't awful, but I don't understand this level of fanaticism for it. It's like SciFi's Twilight, pretty people = best ever? That's handy to know as an artist. LoL
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Okay... Hold on a minute.
Why come in here and hate on us? This is a thread for fans of Whedon, not for people to call him crap. >:(
Welcome to the internets!
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Okay... Hold on a minute.
Why come in here and hate on us? This is a thread for fans of Whedon, not for people to call him crap. >:(
Welcome to the internets!
Yeah, I know, I know... Just didn't expect it by the 4th post.
Maybe I should start a thread called "Haters of Whedon" so the fans have somewhere to go. :P
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The cast was attractive I'll give them that. But it was a hodgepodge of ideas with a junior-level novel's plot. It wasn't awful, but I don't understand this level of fanaticism for it. It's like SciFi's Twilight, pretty people = best ever? That's handy to know as an artist. LoL
I don't think you watched the show very carefully, since the interaction between characters was by far the best part.
As to your challenge, I'll drop RDM's Battlestar Galactica and Deep Space Nine.
As promised...
Both good shows. Just not as good. Battlestar Galactica? Even the biggest fans have to recognize that show has some serious flaws. The ending is worse than the ending of Lost... That's just for starters.
Deep space nine is great, but it's lacking in the action department and it's quality from episode to episode varied significantly at times. It could also be somewhat boring at times.
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But... but I liked the ending of Galactica... :(
Oh, yeah, and Alliance scum can kiss my ass! ;D
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...not for people to call him crap.
In all fairness, I called his work crap. He's willing to keep his ego in check enough to make fun of it on Robot Chicken, anybody willing to do that cannot be a bad person.
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I'm just curious about the pretty people part.
Every single person on TV or in the movies is pretty. Even the ugly ones are only "Hollywood" ugly, I.E. just less pretty. Those are usually striking in some way, or look cool, or both (Danny Trejo, Edward James Olmos, I'm lookin' at you two).
I'm not sure how it differentiates Firefly from any other show ever made. Ah, well.
I liked the ending to BSG because it referenced the old series. That gave my nostalgia gland a big kick.
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I'm sorry, but I can't in any way wrap my mind around Gary Busey (sp?) being 'pretty' in any sense of the way. Those eyes are just so wrong.
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Lol. That's not all thats wrong about that guy. Did you ever see I'm With Busey? That guy's a nutjob.
As for the end of Battlestar... We'll have to agree to disagree. I never watched the old show a whole lot. It's pretty unsophisticated. Bad dialogue, sexist, bad props, bad sets, bad hair. Lol. To me it was just hokey.
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Lol. That's not all thats wrong about that guy. Did you ever see I'm With Busy? That guy's a nutjob.
As for the end of Battlestar... We'll have to agree to disagree. I never watched the old show a whole lot. It's pretty unsophisticated. Bad dialogue, sexist, bad props, bad sets, bad hair. Lol. To me it was just hokey.
That's cuz it was the late 70's/early 80's, man! Everyone was like that back then. ;)
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Yeah I'm not real nostalgic for old TV, since I was born in '85. I tend to judge things based on quality, regardless of when they were made.
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Exactly. That's the way it was on TV. Actually, it was fairly liberal for the time, IMS. There were female Viper pilots, eventually, which was progressive on TV aimed at male audiences.
The idea of it, that survivors a holocaust trek through the stars chasing a legend, was incredibly appealing.
And I doubt that you are immune to the whole nostalgia thing. There are some extremely crappy shows from the '90s that just hit your button, I imagine. We all have those things which tie us to our childhood and supposed "better days."
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Hmm...
Well I do have the Smurfs theme song permanently seared into my brain.
La la lalala la lala lala!
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Heck, I adored Babylon 5 and I was in my 20s when it was on. There's a show that shows its age as bad as Star Trek:tOS. :P
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As for the end of Battlestar... We'll have to agree to disagree. I never watched the old show a whole lot. It's pretty unsophisticated. Bad dialogue, sexist, bad props, bad sets, bad hair. Lol. To me it was just hokey.
Would you by chance be under the age of 35 or so? For those of us who saw it first run, you have to remember we're seeing it through the eyes of being kids or teenagers. It was pretty progressive and high tech at the time.
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I'm twenty five.
I'm not saying people who like it are wrong. I personally just don't like it. There's alot of popular things I don't like. ;D
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I'm twenty five.
I'm not saying people who like it are wrong. I personally just don't like it. There's alot of popular things I don't like. ;D
Joker- No it's not wrong and I can completely understand why it doesn't appeal to you. It's from a different era. I think Flash Gordon is cheesy, but it came from 20 years before my time. People that were kids when it was live probably loved it.
And I admit, it's darn hard to watch many of the old BSG now. Some of those special effects are just painful. :)
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And I admit, it's darn hard to watch many of the old BSG now. Some of those special effects are just painful.
After having watched the entire series within the last six months I have to disagree. Sure, the writing is still the weakest point of the show (closely followed by the amount of stock footage not made for the series), but the effects still look pretty good. They were movie quality for that day and IMO they still hold up.
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Ahh... the memories of BSG. Funny thing that. Follow some of my logic here:
Donald P. Bellisario started out as a writer for Glen A. Larson and wrote a number of the episodes of BSG. One episode, he did NOT write, however, was Experiment in Terra, where Apollo is recruited by beings from the Ship of Lights and 'transported' to the Planet Terra to make sure peace negotiations with the Eastern Alliance go smoothly. I say 'transported', because although it IS Apollo, the beings have altered reality so that everyone that sees him thinks he's this other guy that's part of the peace negotiations. He also has a guide from the beings of light to help him with his mission, but only he can see and hear him.
10 years later Mr. Bellisario would create, produce and write Quantum Leap.
Okay, back to talking about the awesomeness of Firefly and how Mal can kick Kirk's, Picard's AND Sheridan's asses with one ear ripped off.
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Cut off, if I remember correctly. :) lol.
I don't know who'd he'd win in a fight against, but if it was a battle of coolness he would win hands down.
Edit: A thought just occurred to me. Maybe this was obvious to other people. Shadowrun could very very easily be converted to a Firefly setting. Seriously minimal work. All you'd have to do is ban some qualities, ban metahumans, maybe restrict some gear. And create some spaceship stats. Cyberware and Bioware might be a no no too. Could be really fun to roleplay in that universe.
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Actually, I do use Firefly as a means of describing a low-end campaign (300-350 BP), since the players will most likely need to worry where their next meal is coming from.
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As to your challenge, I'll drop RDM's Battlestar Galactica and Deep Space Nine.
I liked the first season of BSG but found things a bit hard to swallow after that. Cinimatography was still wonderful but to many mains were closet skinjobs!
DS9... to me it was meh! I like Worf and his character came into his own on the series ("I cannot defete him, I can only kill him"). Otherwise I just couldn't really get into the series.
Firefly however kick my ass with the last few seconds of the first episode. I was thinking, cowboys? In space? right! THen Mal kicked open the cryo box to "expose" River! looks down and just drops a, "Huhn?" fade to black. Masterful!
The interplay of the characters though sometimes campy was reminicent of my own friends & I hanging out. This was a show that should still be on TV IMO.
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That was one of the cool things about the series: the characters. They seemed to be real people stuck in those extraordinary times just trying to make it, and not great and noble Starfleet Officers (tm). They were far more approachable.
BTW, did anyone see the one Halloween episode of Castle where Nathan Fillion puts on his old Malcolm Reynolds costume? I couldn't stop grinning the entire time I watched him in it.
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I saw just that scene only and had a tear in my eye! the other thing about the series was the RPG! Margrette Weiss was autographing them at genCon a few years ago!
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That was one of the cool things about the series: the characters. They seemed to be real people stuck in those extraordinary times just trying to make it, and not great and noble Starfleet Officers (tm). They were far more approachable.
BTW, did anyone see the one Halloween episode of Castle where Nathan Fillion puts on his old Malcolm Reynolds costume? I couldn't stop grinning the entire time I watched him in it.
I saw that and loved it. The inside jokes were great. "You're going to wear that thing again?"
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By the way, if you're a fan of his, make sure to watch Dr. Horrible's Singalong Blog. It's also got Neil Patrick Harris, in addition to some other funny, talented people.
http://www.drhorrible.com/
It's the best, funniest musical ever. I've seen it like three times.
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Hopefully the sequel will be out soon.
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I didn't know there was gonna be one. Awesome.
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By the way, if you're a fan of his, make sure to watch Dr. Horrible's Singalong Blog. It's also got Neil Patrick Harris, in addition to some other funny, talented people.
http://www.drhorrible.com/
It's the best, funniest musical ever. I've seen it like three times.
Seen it. Laughed my ass off. Love it. <3
And I love Firefly to bits. Every part of it. River, Mal, and Kaylee are my favorites, but the whole damn crew just FIT together so well. I never have the patience to watch reruns, but I will sit and watch every single marathon SciFi does. And please don't compare it to Twilight. >_<!! None of you are adolescent/young adult girls. You cannot appreciate just how painfully HORRIBLE that scrap of writing is. If you're going to bash it bash it to like... Harry Potter or something. Just NOT Twilight.
And another "could be converted to shadowrun setting" that is also a crack addiction of mine is Repo! The Genetic Opera. Go see it. Seriously. TOTALLY AWESOME musical, this generation's Rocky Horror Picture show (though thankfully replacing all the damn sex with violence and comedic gore). LOVE IT.
Not to mention the writer for it, Terrance Zdunich, is one of the sweetest, most humble twisted and derranged psychopaths you will ever meet. :D You can't be right in the head and write that kinda shit.
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Repo Men was a movie I liked more than I thought I would (in related news). Solid fight scenes, four main actors that I tend to enjoy, and a halfway believable cyberpunk universe. I dug it.
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I'm sorry, but I can't in any way wrap my mind around Gary Busey (sp?) being 'pretty' in any sense of the way. Those eyes are just so wrong.
That's what made him famous, and really as best as a straight guy can judge he's still a handsome man. Really the casting of modern looking attractive people using current style trends is all I saw the show did differently. Which isn't a bad thing, I like when novels do it and even when it goes crazy like A Knight's Tale (in a bit of a reverse).
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I watched THE REAL Battlestar growing up I watched 1 season of this supposed new season never watched it again (Hey at least I gave it 1 WHOLE season)
Firefly Eh ok I caught some here and there but it just didn't work for me.
I liked Buffy/Angel but whatever
Dollhouse was good (it had 2 seasons 14 eps and 13 eps STANDARD for todays tv shows) sadly as it neared the end it went off the tracks a bit but then I chalk that up to him trying to wrap it up far ahead of his planed time line.
As to fast jacks comment: "Okay, back to talking about the awesomeness of Firefly and how Mal can kick Kirk's, Picard's AND Sheridan's asses with one ear ripped off." Your right BUT.... thats cause Kirk was a lover Picard is a leader and Sheridan is dead NOW Mal vs. Riker you'd have fight.
As to my shows EH i'm a trekkie (to a point) I've seen the eps of all the series and I own every novel in print (So Far)
Someone said something about inside jokes watch Andromeda very first ep the line to Sorbo's character hunt is what are you some kinda greek god. (He played hercules)
Do I have more of course I watch ALOT of tv but I'm not gonna go in to them all here. I do remember one bad one though that although bad I watched every ep Automan.
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And I admit, it's darn hard to watch many of the old BSG now. Some of those special effects are just painful.
After having watched the entire series within the last six months I have to disagree. Sure, the writing is still the weakest point of the show (closely followed by the amount of stock footage not made for the series), but the effects still look pretty good. They were movie quality for that day and IMO they still hold up.
I was a teen when the original came out Pete, I couldn't bring myself to watch the series. Oh I saw parts of some episodes as I was flipping channels or waiting for the show that came after it. To me it was Buck Rodgers (remember that 80s show) with a bigger budget. To me both were embarrassing to admit if I had watched it. This is from a man who watched Transformers & Thundercats as a US Marine.
So if someones trying to kill me, I have the right to kill 'em back. To paraphase Mal!
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As to your challenge, I'll drop RDM's Battlestar Galactica and Deep Space Nine.
Battlestar was actually good for a couple of seasons and then RDM decided to suck my soul through a bendy straw. I would prefer to clean up 20 hairballs too watching 5 minutes of any episode of BSG's final season.
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RDM? Sorry usually I know these things. :-\
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"On Battlestar Wiki, "RDM" is used primarily to mark articles related to the Re-imagined Series, particularly to distinguish between articles with similar names found in both Battlestar Galactica TV series.
* "RDM" is used as a category reference where you can find all Re-imagined Series-related articles.
* "RDM" is also an acronym for Re-imagined Series co-producer Ronald D. Moore."
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Rebuttals:
1) Pfft... Riker's crashed the Enterprise HOW many times?
2) Automan (http://webspace.webring.com/people/at/tvtoyboy/automan/automan.jpg) rocked!!
3) Mal Reynolds is Han Solo and Kara Thrace's love child.
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I remember Automan. It was an interesting concept that 80s TV ground into the dirt, like many other high concept shows.
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Rebuttals:
1) Pfft... Riker's crashed the Enterprise HOW many times?
2) Automan (http://webspace.webring.com/people/at/tvtoyboy/automan/automan.jpg) rocked!!
3) Mal Reynolds is Han Solo and Kara Thrace's love child.
Starbuck (Kara Thrace) was actually one of my least favorite characters on Battlestar.
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Yeah but do any of those shows have a character with as much... Well... Character as YoSaphRigette?
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*I* liked Firefly. Pal o' mine did the spoof 'Mosquito' for it.
I miss Manimal (also liked Automan).
But then I also miss Thundarr the Barbarian.
Kudos to you, FastJack, for your out-of-nowhere love for stuff.
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Manimal (http://thecinemasnob.com/2010/03/27/the-top-10-best-manimal-moments.aspx) for the win.
Here's some other glorious shows that you may not remember/forgotten about:
Flash Gordon cartoon (http://flashgordon.wikia.com/wiki/Flash_Gordon_%281979_cartoon%29)
Greatest American Hero
Six-Million Dollar Man/Bionic Woman (right... Shadowrun fans won't remember this... ;))
Alien Nation
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Riker never crashed the ship Troi however....
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Greatest American Hero
Found the whole series on DVD for about $20.
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Riker never crashed the ship Troi however....
You're right... He was just in command. ;)
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Yea, no responsibility there at all.
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Here's my +1 for Firefly and all things Whedon. Clever? Hell, yes!
I haven't seen any Dollhouse though so not a clue.
I haven't seen the Castle Hallowe'en episode; that's hilarious!
Dr Horrible Sing-Along Blog - nice. :)
Manimal! Wait.. nope, don't remember. Actually, thanks to your link, some of that did seem vaguely familiar.
A few years ago I heard rumours of 6M$ Man movie. That could still be cool.
I remember enjoying Automan but don't remember anything about Automan, except, "On a scale of 1 to 10, I'm an eleven. 8) "
I've only seen the first 2 seasons of the new BSG and quite liked it also. I'd like to see season 3. A tie? I bet if Firefly was allowed more than part of a season it would have held its own and not tanked after season two like some of you indicate BSG did.
Yay, Mosquito! Clever? Hell, yes!
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Dollhouse was a cool concept, but i never cared for it much. It's kinda a chick show IMO. It's real easy on the eyes though. Has some very beautiful women.
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Space Cowboy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q3pdj9p6yI)
Here ya go.
Oh, and Watch Nathan's hands in this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_L-uoxmfe8&feature=related).
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Riker never crashed the ship Troi however....
You're right... He was just in command. ;)
Actually no the one time the enterprize crashed riker and picard were not in charge troi was left in charge and she crashed the ship something that end now in the novels set after the series and the movies riker does not let her forget lol.
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Shiney. Let's go be bad guys!
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Dollhouse was one of those shows that you shouldn't hop into the middle of.
And I hopped in the middle of it. It looked pretty, interesting concept, but again; I watch TV so infrequently it made no damn sense. XD
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Automan - what I remember there was his Tron-like creation of his car, and the mathematically-sharp corners he took, with the human creator-as-passenger kissing window every time the car changed directions.
...was it Michael York as Manimal, or a look-alike? I mostly remember the stock footage of the transformations to hawk and panther. Even as a young'un, I thought that was repetitive and lame and repetitive. And there was something about Airwolf I really liked...
Dollhouse I missed completely. Then again, I haven't even seen any - what was that one series with the short girl who also played the electric psycho in Heroes? - of that series, that Joss was all about. If either of those are worth it, I may seek them out sometime.
But, yay! Love for Firefly (and Mosquito) ! ;D
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Automan - what I remember there was his Tron-like creation of his car, and the mathematically-sharp corners he took, with the human creator-as-passenger kissing window every time the car changed directions.
...was it Michael York as Manimal, or a look-alike? I mostly remember the stock footage of the transformations to hawk and panther. Even as a young'un, I thought that was repetitive and lame and repetitive. And there was something about Airwolf I really liked...
Dollhouse I missed completely. Then again, I haven't even seen any - what was that one series with the short girl who also played the electric psycho in Heroes? - of that series, that Joss was all about. If either of those are worth it, I may seek them out sometime.
But, yay! Love for Firefly (and Mosquito) ! ;D
I don't know, but I'd watch it. That girl is really cute.
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Automan - what I remember there was his Tron-like creation of his car, and the mathematically-sharp corners he took, with the human creator-as-passenger kissing window every time the car changed directions.
Don't forget his companion, AutoBit or somethin'... made all the stuff for Automan.
...was it Michael York as Manimal, or a look-alike? I mostly remember the stock footage of the transformations to hawk and panther. Even as a young'un, I thought that was repetitive and lame and repetitive. And there was something about Airwolf I really liked...
He was a lookalike
Dollhouse I missed completely. Then again, I haven't even seen any - what was that one series with the short girl who also played the electric psycho in Heroes? - of that series, that Joss was all about. If either of those are worth it, I may seek them out sometime.
Kristen Bell
But, yay! Love for Firefly (and Mosquito) ! ;D
:D
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Space Cowboy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q3pdj9p6yI)
Here ya go.
Oh, and Watch Nathan's hands in this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_L-uoxmfe8&feature=related).
Ah, there we go. Thanks a bunch. Space Cowboy - drippingly nostalgic but why not? That was indeed hilarious.
2 by 2, hands of blue - yeah, I remember seeing that - very nice.
Thanks for sharing. :) Us browncoats gotta catch our vittles where we can.
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By the way, Nathan asked for his own personal theme song on his twitter account. He retweeted three of them:
Theme 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8sPexG0ObU)
Theme 2 (http://signposteddisaster.webs.com/NathanFillion.mp3)
Theme 3 (http://irishhartthrob.tumblr.com/)
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He even flashes two fingers a couple times... XD Just in case anyone was wondering if he didn't do it on purpose...
I love Nathan. XD He's so fun.
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Which reminds me, I have to get a Halloween costume still... but I was kind of thinking about "double tapped Gabriel from "The Prophecy"" this year, but thanks to you guys now I want to get the coat. Again ;)
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Don't forget his companion, AutoBit or somethin'... made all the stuff for Automan.
Wasn't it named "cursor"? Wow, that brings back memories.
"See through it? I can WALK through it!" ;D
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I loved it when they went to the casino in Monte Carlo and he started to get "drunk" on the amount of power he could draw off of... ;)
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Hey don't get me wrong I'm all for seeing a good sci fi succeed. But honestly I only caught few episodes of Firefly and the movie and found them sort of dry and flat.
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Hey don't get me wrong I'm all for seeing a good sci fi succeed. But honestly I only caught few episodes of Firefly and the movie and found them sort of dry and flat.
That's fine. There's not been a show made yet that everyone loves (God help us if THAT happens).
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I think that's on the list of things that will end the Universe...
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[monotone]All glory to the hypnotoad.[/monotone]
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Space Cowboy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q3pdj9p6yI)
Oh, and Watch Nathan's hands in this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_L-uoxmfe8&feature=related).
That was great. Oh, how I miss Firefly. It had so much humour, charm and inter-character passion. That, and I loved the libertarian undertones.
http://alina_stefanescu.typepad.com/totalitarianism_today/2005/07/so_what_finally.html
Anybody seen any of the Firefly DVDs on special anywhere?
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0001B3YTM/ref=sr_1_5_olp?s=gateway&ie=UTF8&qid=1285437292&sr=8-5&condition=used
15 bucks for a gently used, but guaranteed boxed set.
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Amazon's got the whole series, used, for $15.
EDIT: Ninja'ed! So this is what Fastjack feels like.
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Amazon's got the whole series, used, for $15.
EDIT: Ninja'ed! So this is what Fastjack feels like.
Keep it up... I still know what bank you're using down in the Carib League. ;)
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Who cares about bank accounts, post his hidden porn folder ;D
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Who cares about bank accounts, post his hidden porn folder ;D
That's too cruel. Besides, who'd be that interested in pictures of Justin Bieber? ;D
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Sci-fi Movie Saturday. Got me thinking.
Vin Diesel's Riddick and Summer Glau's River: Mortal enemies or match made in heaven?
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I'm sorry, i enjoyed firefly and it ticked me off when they took it off the air, kinda like they did with Dresden Files and for much the same reason. The network that ran it just had bad luck and chose to put it in a time slot up against a much more popular show, not to mention wasnt there this thing called a writers strike that year.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0001B3YTM/ref=sr_1_5_olp?s=gateway&ie=UTF8&qid=1285437292&sr=8-5&condition=used
15 bucks for a gently used, but guaranteed boxed set.
Thanks!
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0001B3YTM/ref=sr_1_5_olp?s=gateway&ie=UTF8&qid=1285437292&sr=8-5&condition=used
15 bucks for a gently used, but guaranteed boxed set.
Thanks!
My Pleasure.
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Sci-fi Movie Saturday. Got me thinking.
Vin Diesel's Riddick and Summer Glau's River: Mortal enemies or match made in heaven?
Worst case of hate-love relationship in the known universe...
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Sci-fi Movie Saturday. Got me thinking.
Vin Diesel's Riddick and Summer Glau's River: Mortal enemies or match made in heaven?
Worst case of hate-love relationship in the known universe...
Really? I think they'd be perfect together. Riddick would be charmed by her innocence, and intrigued by the ferocity in her. While River would find his clear-cut mindset refreshing in a 'verse where everyone's thoughts are convoluted... ;D
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And everytime she snaps back to her "Little girl" mindset she'd freak out like crazy because of him ;)
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...kinda like they did with Dresden Files and for much the same reason.
Dresden went off the air because it was pure crap. I got the DVDs as a gift, they are still the only thing I have ever re-gifted.
Here's an example of how bad the TV show was: at an appearance that Jim Butcher had in Chicago for one of his Dresden novels (Small Favor I think) somebody asked him about the show. He gave us the count of time (to the day) of when the rights reverted back to him. He was so disappointed with how the show was handled that I think he's automatically apologizing to anybody who watched it.
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...kinda like they did with Dresden Files and for much the same reason.
Dresden went off the air because it was pure crap. I got the DVDs as a gift, they are still the only thing I have ever re-gifted.
Here's an example of how bad the TV show was: at an appearance that Jim Butcher had in Chicago for one of his Dresden novels (Small Favor I think) somebody asked him about the show. He gave us the count of time (to the day) of when the rights reverted back to him. He was so disappointed with how the show was handled that I think he's automatically apologizing to anybody who watched it.
Wasn't that show British? I remember there being a very low quality show by that name I watched like two episodes then declared the rest of the series unwatchable (Though not as unwatchable as that Robin Hood show. Still pretty bad though). Seems like a crappy version of shows like Hellsing (Which owns pretty hard). It also reminded me of Hell Boy, Men in Black, and Warehouse 13. The concept wasn't terrible. It was just poorly executed and badly cast mostly. I'm yet to see any non-comedy English Television that I actually like though.
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No, Dresden was a Sci-Fi network production. There was a British character, but for the most part it was Canadian/American.
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Wow. Pretty low quality for a scifi (or syfy or whatever the fuck they want people to call them now) original series. The books look interesting though.
Alot of their movies suck too, now that I think of it. Cube 2, Riverworld, Earthsea, BSG: Razor. I liked BSG though. Good series. Warehouse 13 was pretty decent, but I lost interest because every episode had the same plot. Didn't they do Eureka? I like that show, despite cheesiness and some bad acting.
Edit: I was thinking of Torchwood possibly. Man that show was bad.
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Cube 2 wasn't a SyFy production. But it was terrible enough to be one.
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I read a comment by a syfy higher up in referance to the low quality movies they put out he was quoted as saying "they make cheap movies to entertain the masses" or something to that point not an exact quote as I don't have it in front of me.
More or less from the story I got that they make the cheesey low budget films cause people watch them and because they are cheap they can make alot of them.
As for Dresden eh I watched it all I think it wasn't that memorable it seems and I never watched torchwood.
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I think the Sci-Fi (though not Sci-Fi Channel) show I miss the most is Lexx. That show was awesome. It was bizarre and hilarious and I really wish I could find it on DVD.
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I think the Sci-Fi (though not Sci-Fi Channel) show I miss the most is Lexx. That show was awesome. It was bizarre and hilarious and I really wish I could find it on DVD.
Try DVD Price Search (http://www.dvdpricesearch.com/). They've never steered me wrong.
Also, Torchwood is a Doctor Who spinoff produced by BBC. It's not a Sci-Fi production. (Yeah, right, you think ANY American producers would green light a main character that's bi-sexual?)
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I am going to have to look through that site for Lexx. Thanks, Jack.
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I think the Sci-Fi (though not Sci-Fi Channel) show I miss the most is Lexx. That show was awesome. It was bizarre and hilarious and I really wish I could find it on DVD.
Try DVD Price Search (http://www.dvdpricesearch.com/). They've never steered me wrong.
Also, Torchwood is a Doctor Who spinoff produced by BBC. It's not a Sci-Fi production. (Yeah, right, you think ANY American producers would green light a main character that's bi-sexual?)
If she was cute enough... yeah. But a male bi-lead? Not really!
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I am going to have to look through that site for Lexx. Thanks, Jack.
I really REALLY liked the first two seasons of Lexx. The 3rd (when they got to earth) didn't do it for me, though.
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The last season (which was actually the 4th) was definitely the poorest of them. But I still liked it well enough. I like how Earth was basically the universe's garbage dump for everybody that died on Fire and Water.
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Note to self: When traveling through airports, do NOT wear my Browncoat/"I aim to misbehave" shirt through the security checkpoint.
On a completely unrelated note, sitting for five hours will be very ... uncomfortable.
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The last season (which was actually the 4th) was definitely the poorest of them. But I still liked it well enough. I like how Earth was basically the universe's garbage dump for everybody that died on Fire and Water.
Just found this on Hulu:
http://www.hulu.com/search?query=lexx&st=0 (http://www.hulu.com/search?query=lexx&st=0)
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Grodd yes! Thank you.
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You are welcome. Since I have the day off and it's raining, I think I just found an activity to do...
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Note to self: When traveling through airports, do NOT wear my Browncoat/"I aim to misbehave" shirt through the security checkpoint.
There's a reason I try to dress like I'm going to work whenever I fly.
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Note to self: When traveling through airports, do NOT wear my Browncoat/"I aim to misbehave" shirt through the security checkpoint.
There's a reason I try to dress like I'm going to work whenever I fly.
Cuz you're a pilot? :P
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Dresden went off the air because it was pure crap. I got the DVDs as a gift, they are still the only thing I have ever re-gifted.
It wasn't that bad of o show for someone who hadn't read the books.
And it will always hold a special place in my heart as it got me to listening the audiobooks read by the Awesome James Marster.
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Note to self: When traveling through airports, do NOT wear my Browncoat/"I aim to misbehave" shirt through the security checkpoint.
On a completely unrelated note, sitting for five hours will be very ... uncomfortable.
I have a sweatshirt, "All the Chinese I'll ever need, I learned on Firefly" It has many of the Chinese sayings on it phonetically and the translation! its a hoot!
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Cuz you're a pilot?
Only in the Pods, Joker. Only in the Pods.
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Note to self: When traveling through airports, do NOT wear my Browncoat/"I aim to misbehave" shirt through the security checkpoint.
There's a reason I try to dress like I'm going to work whenever I fly.
Amen on that. You can find comfortable clothes that are still business professional. A lesson runners could learn in Shadowrun as well.
"Will someone please tell the Street Samurai that armored, spiked gloves and helmets will stand out at a black tie party?"
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That's why I leave the sammy in the van.
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Note to self: When traveling through airports, do NOT wear my Browncoat/"I aim to misbehave" shirt through the security checkpoint.
There's a reason I try to dress like I'm going to work whenever I fly.
Amen on that. You can find comfortable clothes that are still business professional. A lesson runners could learn in Shadowrun as well.
"Will someone please tell the Street Samurai that armored, spiked gloves and helmets will stand out at a black tie party?"
But I got on a Black Tie! Hello Inconspic... Inkon... Inspicu... I'm dressed to code! ;D
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A 7-foot-tall minotaur armed carrying an axe and wearing a black tie: the pinnacle of discreet.
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A 7-foot-tall minotaur armed carrying an axe and wearing a black tie: the pinnacle of discreet.
There's not enough bleach in the world to detox the image of the naked minotaur wearing a bow-tie from my mind.
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I suggest using a funnel and an industrial pump.
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Note to self: When traveling through airports, do NOT wear my Browncoat/"I aim to misbehave" shirt through the security checkpoint.
There's a reason I try to dress like I'm going to work whenever I fly.
Amen on that. You can find comfortable clothes that are still business professional. A lesson runners could learn in Shadowrun as well.
"Will someone please tell the Street Samurai that armored, spiked gloves and helmets will stand out at a black tie party?"
But I got on a Black Tie! Hello Inconspic... Inkon... Inspicu... I'm dressed to code! ;D
Inconspicuous.
I don't even think that radical surgery could make a minotaur fit in. They're pretty much guaranteed to stand out no matter where they are.
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A 7-foot-tall minotaur armed carrying an axe and wearing a black tie: the pinnacle of discreet.
To correct Usda is 9'6", and yeah the rest of that sound correct! ;)
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Okay, a 9-and-a-half-foot-tall minotaur carrying an axe and wearing a black tie.
You know, I looked back at my last description and I had some goofy typos. Oh well.
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Have you ever noticed the bottom of my posts? It' sucks typing with fingers the size of an elf's neck!
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Note to self: When traveling through airports, do NOT wear my Browncoat/"I aim to misbehave" shirt through the security checkpoint.
There's a reason I try to dress like I'm going to work whenever I fly.
Amen on that. You can find comfortable clothes that are still business professional. A lesson runners could learn in Shadowrun as well.
"Will someone please tell the Street Samurai that armored, spiked gloves and helmets will stand out at a black tie party?"
But I got on a Black Tie! Hello Inconspic... Inkon... Inspicu... I'm dressed to code! ;D
Inconspicuous.
I don't even think that radical surgery could make a minotaur fit in. They're pretty much guaranteed to stand out no matter where they are.
Well then put 'em out to pasture... Ah HA! Camoflage!
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Have you ever noticed the bottom of my posts? It' sucks typing with fingers the size of an elf's neck!
You just need a bigger keyboard. I need to actually proofread my posts before I post them. But that takes, you know, effort.
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Yeah...I know! ::)
I useta think I was pretty good at grammer. Den mi dauter came along an runed everything four me! :-*
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Then your daughter came along with a browser that checks my spelling for me... >_>;;
Though I still wish I could go in and edit your godsdamned grammar.
And watching you type isn't nearly as painful as watching mom type. You still use more than one finger. Yeah, you're never going to be able to get the 80-90 WPM that I do at times but you're not THAT BAD. XD
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A spellchecker only helps if you use the correct words.
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two true
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And if you're typing words in English and not character names or drow or something weird like that.
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Y'know, most of my friends in high school sat and wondered WHY I took keyboarding/typing in High School (this was before everyone had a computer, you damn young'uns).
Who's laughing now?! HA! That's right, you're sitting there, hunting and pecking while I made a career of typing!
<.<
>.>
So yeah, 20th year reunion next year... *sigh*
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Mine's already come and gone, kid.
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My ten year just went by.
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I got three or four years 'til mine.
Didn't go to the 5 years. I mean come on. 5 years? What is that? I just saw those people.
I'm going to the 10. I know by then all the girls I liked back in school will either be unhappily married or or single and desperate enough to date me. Lols.
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Gah. You wouldn't be so optimistic if you saw the girls I went to high school with. Most of them looked like Master Splinter.
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They range from pretty cute to DAMN!, so yeah, I can be optimistic.
And now for a firefly quote:
Simon: You know, I've saved lives. Dozens. Maybe hundreds. I re-attatched a girl's leg. Her whole leg. She named her hamster after me. I got a hamster. He drops a box of money, he gets a town.
Kaylee: Hamsters is nice.
Silly drunkens. That was a really good episode.
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Careful Joker. DAMN! doesn't always stick past 22. ;)
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And if you're typing words in English and not character names or drow or something weird like that.
True story-
Back in the 80's when I was working at Pacific Rim Publishing (BattleTechnology and other game magazines). We were working on some project, which I can't recall at the moment. It was something not BattleTech and might have even been me just helping Hilary (The editor) get ready for an upcoming game (She was also a crack GM). This was on an old Mac Quadra Pro computer.
So I'm typing along and spell check threw back Microsoft as misspelled. We had a good chuckle on that, Mac vs PC and all. I kept on typed and had to type Cthulhu (info for an upcoming game).
Well we had a moment of weird as the Mac Quadra, which was pretty darn new and didn't have anything in the custom library returned that I had properly spelled the name of the great old one.
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Careful Joker. DAMN! doesn't always stick past 22. ;)
These days we have facebook to monitor things like that. ;)
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Yeah... I didn't go to my 25th reunion last year. Didn't see the need to shake hands with so many people I didn't like to begin with, and most of my friends were either one or two years my junior anyway. ::)
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Oich, Beph, I feelya, a bit.
This would have been my - uh, 20th for High School, I guess, this year. Not interested. Pretty much all the people whose company I enjoyed, and who stayed in the same rough geographical location as I did, I still see. Most of that period of my edjoocashun is best stuffed in a drawer. Bleah.
'Course, my social circle remains pretty small.
Introverts of the world, unite! If briefly, and uncomfortably.
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Introverts of the world, unite! If briefly, and uncomfortably.
Hear hear!
I'm going back to my place now.
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I am so glad we don't have reunions over here...
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High School Reunions... That Special hell, for people who talk in Theaters!
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Wow, it's been quite a journey to get to this post, hasn't it?
Back to the topic :D
Firefly is awesome for lots of reasons. The verbal sparring is great. The characterization is awesome. The set is super-solid. The baddies are memorable.
But most of all, Mal. He's written to do like everyone who watches Tee Vee and says, "just shoot the bastard!" wants him to do.
Guy takes a hostage and spits out "Okay, nobody move a-"*bang* dead. He acts quickly and decisively, resorting to the most efficient solution, because he doesn't have the leeway to mess around and hope things work out for the best. None of that "enemies are just friends who happen to want to murder us," crap that permeates the "best future" scifi found in most space-faring shows.
That said, Firefly wasn't really sci-fi. It was a western set in space. Sort of how Bablyon 5 was political and ethical exposition within the backdrop of space aliens.
For my money, no show has really dealt with pure sci-fi concepts like Farscape. Things like, the main character gets replicated, one of the two of them runs off and falls in love with another character, then dies - now that character has this weird "okay, so I fell in love with your dead duplicate, how the hell do I deal with you?" relationship. That's the kind of hypothetical issue that can only be dealt with in science fiction. ...not to mention that, at one point, the main character straps a thermonuclear bomb to his chest and proceeds to wreak havoc throughout an enemy space station. Good times...
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Yeah Like Mal kicking a bad guy into teh turbine of Firefly then looking at the next one and asks,"SO you wanna give your boss teh messege?" line.
"Wind blows North I go North" Plain simple direct. What I like most about the character is his loyalty to his friends. Even when he doesn't like 'em (Simon)
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The set is super-solid.
'cept that gorram primary buffer panel.
And yes. The bad guys were win. I freaking LOVED the Operative from Serenity. He's so perfectly Lawful Evil it's beautiful. I just want to take the DVD after making my old D&D group that tried (and failed. So hard) at being an evil party and BEAT THEM WITH IT.
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Zoe: Jayne. This somethin' the Captain has to do for himself.
Mal: No! No, it's not!
Zoe: [surprised] Oh.
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Zoe: Jayne. This somethin' the Captain has to do for himself.
Mal: No! No, it's not!
Zoe: [surprised] Oh.
Bar fight scene? The one where Mal picks a fight cause of the holiday that celebrates the Browncoat's surrender?
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Nope, when they come to rescue him from Niska in War Stories.
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Nope, when they come to rescue him from Niska in War Stories.
Hard to forget the episode where wash becomes a badass and mal loses an ear. I have all of them pretty well memorized though.
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Nope, when they come to rescue him from Niska in War Stories.
Thats right! Now I have to back and watch the dang whole series again! Oh wait. I sold it on E-Bay :'(
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You WHAT????????????
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You WHAT????????????
I could be wrong. It aint cheap to have College age kids wanting a Psic degree! Sacrifices must be made. :'(
Plus now that I think on it, that was my SG1 season...4 that sold.
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I know we didn't sell Firefly. I wouldn't have let you. Just like you're not allowed to sell Serenity, Battlerina, or Raag. Firefly's just scattered all over the place from our various Monster Rancher excursions.
And it's psych. You weren't even close this time. XD
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And it's psych. You weren't even close this time. XD
The "Y" I'll give you but I can abbeviate all I want for teh rest! :P
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You have a problem with your brain being missing.
I was also supposed to be in the shower a half hour ago and still have to tell Mom I'm leaving. WHEEEE!
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on that midnight train to Georgia?
Yay for procrastination!
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You have a problem with your brain being missing.
I was also supposed to be in the shower a half hour ago and still have to tell Mom I'm leaving. WHEEEE!
Havin' brains is a bit overrated at times. It's just as falable as the other two thinking organs we have. The Heart never sees the desert for the dirt, and well the lower brain is usually going off half cocked!
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Speak for your own lower brain there, fellah. Lol.
Yeah, thinking too much or not enough can both screw you over. I alternate between the two kinda like newtons cradle. Can never find that balance.
I gave my copy of firefly to a friend, I think. I have the series freakin' memorized, so it's cool. Besides, and exgirlfriend got it for me, so it had negative feelings associated with it.
I'm still a browncoat, but i've moved on. They aren't bringing the show back and there's probably not going to be a MMO. I'm pretty sure firefly is dead. I bet at some point they'll try to make some kind of sequel series or film, using completely different actors. It wont be as good though.
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The banter between CI and UB make me not want to ever introduce my children to the forums I travel in... Ever. :)
Mostly cause CI is so winning these discussions and I don't want to be the dawned P0WD (did I get that right) by his kids on the forums.
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The banter between CI and UB make me not want to ever introduce my children to the forums I travel in... Ever. :)
Mostly cause CI is so winning these discussions and I don't want to be the dawned P0WD (did I get that right) by his kids on the forums.
PWNED
Much of l33tspeak (whoa... Spell-checker's not trying to correct that...) came from gamers using typed-messaging during games. Unfortunately, they weren't all that great at typing, and many mistyped "owned" "the" and such so that they became "pwned" and "teh"
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When I still played network games, we all had to be in the same room, connected by cables!
We just yelled at eachother.
Sigh... At least Worktroll is still older than me. If not for him, I'd feel like the gray headed stepchild of Catalyst.
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Gaming has come a long way since then. Now you can yell at eachother from thousands of miles away, while you eat funions and drink mr. pibb in your dank lairs.
I used to be an online gamer, but I gave it up. It's a very real addiction. Lol. The only thing currently threatening my path to recovery is SWTOR. www.swtor.com
Luckily I'd need a new computer to play, so it's off the menu for a while.
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Mmmm... Jedis & smugglers & bounty hunters, oh my.
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When I still played network games, we all had to be in the same room, connected by cables!
We just yelled at eachother.
Sigh... At least Worktroll is still older than me. If not for him, I'd feel like the gray headed stepchild of Catalyst.
Yelled? We threw spare 50ohm terminators at each other. Oh the joy of connecting 10 machines via BNC... thank the gods for fast ethernet. Amen.
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The funny thing is, the only MMOs I ever played were with the people I know in person, so it was still mostly over Skype. Even though skype and my computer hate each other, apparently.
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The banter between CI and UB make me not want to ever introduce my children to the forums I travel in... Ever. :)
Mostly cause CI is so winning these discussions and I don't want to be the dawned P0WD (did I get that right) by his kids on the forums.
Welsh buddy she wins till I PM her about being grounded and such. Ahh the joys of parenthood! ;D (we need an evil smiley). Not to mention she actually HAS a better english GPA than I do. Not by much but it is higher. ;)
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'cept that gorram primary buffer panel.
And yes. The bad guys were win. I freaking LOVED the Operative from Serenity. He's so perfectly Lawful Evil it's beautiful. I just want to take the DVD after making my old D&D group that tried (and failed. So hard) at being an evil party and BEAT THEM WITH IT.
The Operative: I'm sorry. If your quarry goes to ground, leave no ground to go to. You should have taken my offer. Or did you think none of this was your fault?
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: I don't murder children.
The Operative: I do. If I have to.
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: Why? Do you even know why they sent you?
The Operative: It's not my place to ask. I believe in something greater than myself. A better world. A world without sin.
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: So me and mine gotta lay down and die... so you can live in your better world?
The Operative: I'm not going to live there. There's no place for me there... any more than there is for you. Malcolm... I am a monster. What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done.
Joss Whedon can write a character who is both sympathetic and, well, a childkiller.
That's why he is a damn good writer, and that's why Firefly isn't just another TeeVee show.
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And if you REALLY don't think Joss can write, check out Nathan's turn as Caleb on Buffy.
Few things in this world get to me. His removal of Xander's eye is one of them...
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The banter between CI and UB make me not want to ever introduce my children to the forums I travel in... Ever. :)
Mostly cause CI is so winning these discussions and I don't want to be the dawned P0WD (did I get that right) by his kids on the forums.
Welsh buddy she wins till I PM her about being grounded and such. Ahh the joys of parenthood! ;D (we need an evil smiley). Not to mention she actually HAS a better english GPA than I do. Not by much but it is higher. ;)
And a much more recent one. Much, much more recent.
He's not kidding. He's PM'd me to clean my room before. XD
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I had no idea this existed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_%28role-playing_game%29
Me want. *Drool*
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I had no idea this existed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_%28role-playing_game%29
Me want. *Drool*
It's...okay.
The system's not the greatest, but the book's just fun to have for in-universe information, fun stats for the characters, and the overall spirit/feel of it, from cover to cover.
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The one mechanic I do like and have imported to other systems (except Shadowrun) is the 5x5x5. It's basically asking the player to name (maximum) 5 friends, 5 acquaintances and 5 enemies. The enemies don't have to be "hunt-you-to-the-ends-of-the-earth" types, just people that you share a mutual dislike for. Also, you don't have to have the 5 of each, but they do recommend to try and think of at least 1 or 2 of each.
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I had no idea this existed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_%28role-playing_game%29
Me want. *Drool*
yeah, I almost got a copy to have Margret Weiss sign it... but Chaotic brought some Dragonlance novels instead.
My favorite memory was letting her talk to Margret on my cell at the 08 ??? GenCon.
Mal is the Chain of Command! My character Joe Mallan over at the BattleCorps fanfic has given out a couple of those to his friends who made Lt before him.
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Shepard's Tale (http://www.amazon.com/Serenity-Shepherds-Tale-Zack-Whedon/dp/1595825614/ref=pd_sim_b_7)
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08 Gencon, Dad. 08. We weren't doing cons in 98.
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Huhn? WHat? Who are you child? Speak up, these ears don't hear the way they used to!!! :-[
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Shepard's Tale (http://www.amazon.com/Serenity-Shepherds-Tale-Zack-Whedon/dp/1595825614/ref=pd_sim_b_7)
Must buy Book. and thus Shepard in a new level of understanding! :o
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Or was it '07? o.0;;
And I have ONE of those comics, but not that one... somewhere. In my desk. *gulp*
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Yeah but I don't think it was Shep's.
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Like I said, "but not that one."
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Drekking old eyes!
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So just buy new ones already!
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I would... But the wife's alittle mad, for some reason. Maybe cause I was looking into some X-Ray vision Augs! ;D
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The system's not the greatest, but the book's just fun to have for in-universe information, fun stats for the characters, and the overall spirit/feel of it, from cover to cover.
That it is, i especially like the Chinese dictionary in it.
It's too bad no one understands when you curse at them in Chinese.
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Actually, it's quite fun being able to curse in Chinese. Especially when you can say it with a polite smile to your boss' face. ;)
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This is why I know how to curse in Mandarin, Spanish, and Drow. :D
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Spanish is still on my todo list...
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I had no idea this existed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_%28role-playing_game%29
Me want. *Drool*
yeah, I almost got a copy to have Margret Weiss sign it... but Chaotic brought some Dragonlance novels instead.
My favorite memory was letting her talk to Margret on my cell at the 08 ??? GenCon.
Madame Weiss is a gracious and delightful lady. I had the opportunity to have lunch with her at DragonCon a couple of years ago. It was the highlight of my convention experience.
Actually, it's quite fun being able to curse in Chinese. Especially when you can say it with a polite smile to your boss' face. ;)
I do cringe a little when hearing westerners cursing in Chinese, but that's mostly because I happen to BE Chinese and some of the pronunciations are awful.
But I can rarely hold a grudge about it, as it's usually Browncoats and they are okay in my book.
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My own copy of the RPG was a surprise gift from my wife at GenCon a few years ago, signed by a couple of the developers and Margaret Weiss. I got a "shoot straight" and a "keep flying" for the notes with the signatures, which I thought was extra cool. ;D
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[quote/] ...was it Michael York as Manimal, or a look-alike? I mostly remember the stock footage of the transformations to hawk and panther. Even as a young'un, I thought that was repetitive and lame and repetitive. And there was something about Airwolf I really liked...[/quote]He was a lookalike
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I believe it was Simon Macorkindale (? sp) in Manimal . . . it's been 20+ years, so cut me some slack . . .
I haven't seen a Joss Whedon creation I less than liked yet - the man is a storyteller.
Now if George Lucas would let him, or Chris Claremont, play in the Star Wars sandbox, THAT would be awesome . . .
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Alas, RIP Simon MacCorkindale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_MacCorkindale). Just passed away on the 14th.
Listen, I'm a huge Whedon fan, but I have my worries about the Avengers movie. Remember, just because someone is really good at some stuff doesn't mean they are good at everything. In the case of Chris Claremont, take a look at the Willow sequel trilogy he co-wrote with Lucas. Within the first few pages of the first novel, they killed off Mad Martigan, Sorsha, Willow's entire village and twelve other areas in the world (Synopsis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Moon_%28book%29)).
It's one of the reasons I stopped buying comic books years ago. Yes, they are getting terrific writers to come in and write the books. But the first think most of the writers do when they come into a new book is to toss out everything the previous writer done. And it's not always for the better.
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Whedon's specialty is ensemble cast shows and movies. The Avengers movie will be about an ensemble of super heroes.
I think its got a pretty good shot at being really good.
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Whedon's specialty is ensemble cast shows and movies. The Avengers movie will be about an ensemble of super heroes.
I think its got a pretty good shot at being really good.
The worry is that Whedon is a great dialogue writer/director that features strong females in key roles and the action is just "something that happens a lot" to the characters. I'm just not sure if that jives with the Avengers as we known it and hope it becomes.
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A round of applaus for knowing Chris Claremont! I will agree with Gun Nut, Whedon may or may not know Comic heros but he write a mean team. I didn't watch his other shows but allot of the positive I read about him is about how he right character interaction. I don't think he'll do bad with the Avengers, I have been known to be wrong so I will wait and see.
The worry is that Whedon is a great dialogue writer/director that features strong females in key roles and the action is just "something that happens a lot" to the characters. I'm just not sure if that jives with the Avengers as we known it and hope it becomes.
I wouldn't call Mal a female lead?!? But yeah I get your point.
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To be fair, he didn't say "female lead", he said "strong females in key roles".
Which is true of all Whedon's work.
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Thanks Karma. Yeah, I realize Mal & Angel aren't ladies (although Angel's whining at times... I kid! I kid!), but they both had a lot of strong women near them. And that's what kinda worries me about The Avengers. They've gone on record that the only female member of the team will be Black Widow (no Wanda or Wasp, or at least not as a main character), so it's definitely a boy's club right now.
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What and Janet van Dyne was some kinda shrinking violet.... ::)
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Literally.
Except I didn't know Violets shot energy blasts at their foes.
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Literally.
Except I didn't know Violets shot energy blasts at their foes.
But it's in the comics man! If they don't fire lasers (Pew pew pew) they lift houses for throwing weapons! ;D
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Hmm. I am now sad about Simon MacCorkindale. Thanks for the heads-up, FJ.
Re: Whedon/Avengers, though, I am a little concerned. I mean, I did enjoy the Astonishing X-Men for the two years he wrote for 'em. Character-developmentwise, it was the Kitty Show, with everyone else around being snarky and tense with each other and well-portrayed, if somewhat conservatively regarding their personalities. Still thought it was good.
I worry that he's gonna write his own story in the Avengers universe, and find a way to kill off the nicest person in the movie in an unapologetic, and nasty fashion. "S*$# Happens, Especially To Nice People" seems to be the motto he writes by, in my view.
I worry that he's going to come up with a 'new' important character for the movieverse, when I would prefer a retell and reframe of solidly extant history...you know, in comic-fantasy-land, but still. I'd like a 'take' on it, without an extra limb grafted on just because somebody likes the way chicken legs look.
If I base it purely on what I've seen of the X-Men stuff, I will give my opinion that a similar treatment would be acceptable. Especially if there's a little bit of first-run Ultimates hardcase-Cap in there. Just a bit.
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Actually the X-Men movie character line-up was something I found disappointing. I know Wolvie is a BIG selling point, but I really would have preferred the original team: Cyclops, Iceman, Marvel Girl, Beast and Angel.
same with the Avengers. I think I'd prefer seeing Wasp in the team over Black Widow, with Iron Man, Thor, Giant-Man and the Hulk, a la the comic debut. Captain America should be a separate movie - i think the WWII connection should be kept too.
but the studio/director will cast whoever they think will help make the movie successful . . .
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Captain America is a separate movie. It's called "Captain America: First Avenger" to tie it into the Avengers movie. It will have Red Skull and Nazis.
Wish granted.
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All of the Avengers are getting their own movies.
Iron Man has had 2
The Hulk has also
Thor is in the works
and Cap will to. IIRC the rumor is Cap will be the last one berove the Avengers hit the silver screen.
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Captain America is a separate movie. It's called "Captain America: First Avenger" to tie it into the Avengers movie. It will have Red (Hugo Weaving) Skull and Nazis.
Wish granted.
As I have read it! :D
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I have me a three day weekend (Hand.Salute. To all US veterans. Ready.Two)
So I am going to use that time to watch the whole Firefly/Serenity series once again! ;D
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Don't forget to toss in a couple episodes of Buffy (where Fillion plays Caleb) and Angel (where Gina Torres plays Jasmine).
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Never watched those series. Not my taste... then again I didn't think Space cowboys would be something I'd like either. ;)
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Fillion's Caleb is truly evil. I still get the heebie-jeebies when he pokes his thumb into Xander's eye, destroying it.
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Nice!
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Firefly sucked, and Whedon is a hack.
That is all
Pfft. Firefly is the best scifi show ever made.
Now try to name one better, so I can tell you you are wrong. lol :D
StarTrek: Next Generation, any day mate! "Who watches the watchers" is the single best episode of SF ever.
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ST:NG is pretty good, but suffers a bit more from the wear and tear of time than does TOS. Had Firefly enough time to run it's course (Whedon projected a seven year span) then I imagine it would eclipse all other s.f. (if not all other TV series).
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So I have to admit I didn't get around to watching Firefly like I was planning. Friday night My wife and I found Dexter! and we spent most of the weekend watching past episodes of this season and are almost done with last season. As much as I love Firefly, lounging around wife in my arms is WAAAAAAAY better to me!
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And that, my fellow chummers, is why there shouldn't be couples at the gaming table ;D
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And that, my fellow chummers, is why there shouldn't be couples at the gaming table ;D
Oh she's not a gamer... I wish she was sometimes. I have had a gamer girlfriend and I enjoyed the shared intrest.
But I think a long weekend snuggling the one you love beats watching TV alone everytime FTW
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XD But I can have a long "weekend" (mine are in the middle of the week) snuggling with mine while murdering the crap out of people. And the only time my TV is even ON is when he's over! :D
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Love Firefly. Watching it again for the 4532987234658976th time, just moved on to disc 2 last night.
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I will be trying out the Dresden Files RPG with my girlfriend in a few weeks. Evaluate if she has fun with P&P RPGs. If yes... I may create a monster...
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As long as it's a sexy monster!
Grr! Yay, baby! <Austin Powers smile>
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I will be trying out the Dresden Files RPG with my girlfriend in a few weeks. Evaluate if she has fun with P&P RPGs. If yes... I may create a monster...
I think you'll have a good time with it. It's an interesting system.
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Oh I'm not worried about ME, I can mess up ERM I mean, have fun in allmost any system that isn't D20 :)
And yes, FastJack. It is ;D
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I'm sure it's already been mentioned on here, but Nathon Fillian has a site about trying to buy the rights to Firefly. Unlikely to happen, but at least someone is keeping the dream alive.
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I have a brown duster, a black leather cowboy hat, tight pants, and a repro of Mal's Pistol.
All I need is a gunbelt and holster, and I'm set.
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By the way, have you gone and wished our dear Captain Mal a happy 40th birthday yet?
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I have a brown duster, a black leather cowboy hat, tight pants, and a repro of Mal's Pistol.
All I need is a gunbelt and holster, and I'm set.
Just need a flannel shirt and you're set. Gunbelt's easy, though the ole fashioned leather ones can be a bit tricky.
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I have a brown duster, a black leather cowboy hat, tight pants, and a repro of Mal's Pistol.
All I need is a gunbelt and holster, and I'm set.
Just need a flannel shirt and you're set. Gunbelt's easy, though the ole fashioned leather ones can be a bit tricky.
Harder to get in Canada. The gun belt, not the flannel shirt.
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http://store.qmxonline.com/Firefly-Mal-Holster-Artisan-Replica_p_96.html
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*Blinks* This is apparently where I got my pistol from: http://store.qmxonline.com/Official-Malcolm-Reynolds-Stunt-Pistol-Replica_p_22.html
It was a gift.
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I have a brown duster, a black leather cowboy hat, tight pants, and a repro of Mal's Pistol.
All I need is a gunbelt and holster, and I'm set.
Just need a flannel shirt and you're set. Gunbelt's easy, though the ole fashioned leather ones can be a bit tricky.
Harder to get in Canada. The gun belt, not the flannel shirt.
I suppose you can find flannels galore up there.
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*Looks at Red-Green* Yes.