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Karma Character Creation Questions
Beansidhe:
Trying to compare the Karma Character Creation system with the normal one for general understanding of how I like them (will likely be the GM if I ever get to play SR again).
I'm confused as to the cost of taking a Metatype. In one area it states that to take a metatype you pay double the normal BP cost for it, in other areas it seems to say that you don't pay for it at all. In the character example, I did not see Marissa pay Karma to be a Sasquatch. I think that the double BP is correct but as I said above, I'm confused.
The second question I believe that the answer is no. Do characters get their normally given free Knowledge/Language skills (other than native language)?
Thanks for the answers.
Casazil:
I'm sure someone who knows will be along shortly if not i'll kick the one I know to help you out .....
As I understand from him your Meta race is free.
but you pay for everything else.
Beansidhe:
As nobody has stated you are wrong, I am assuming that you are correct.
Following that system, I have just worked up a Dwarven Bear Magician in both the BP and the KP systems. The Karma system seemed to net me a huge amount over the BP system. The character improved in skills and attributes while having points left over for more still.
Is this usual for the KP system, or was I building a bit to much of a generalized character with BPs? The KP system said it would make characters more generalists and less specialists, but I felt I specialized a lot more with it. I raised my 3 Skill groups from 3 to 4, brought my 1 fire arms skill up to a 2 (so all active skills I had invested in went up by a rank). I then bought 2 skills at 5 and 2 skills at 4 past what I had prior. I pushed my Magic to 6 from 5, Body to 6 from 5, Int to 2 from 1, Rea and Agi from 2 to 3, Edge from 1 to 3 and Str to 4 from 3.
I kept the same Gear, Foci (a Rating 5 Health Sustaining and a Rating 3 Health Casting), Contacts, and Spells (though I realize in comparison I am 2 spells over on the BP version since I dropped my Sorcery Package to 3 near the end). I have the same Knowledge Skills and Languages (though this time I paid for them except my Native language).
With all of those changes I still have 29 KP left to toss at something. Just feel like maybe I have made a mistake but going through I do not see what it was. Going to check again, because my BP seems like something must be wrong with it.
Mäx:
Errata for Karmagen(only in latest physical printing of the English book) is that you pay the races BP-cost in karma, also attributes cost 5xnew rating(just like it does when advancing a character with SR4A)
Doc Chaos:
Same goes for the errata'd german version. Race cost is the BP cost in karma and is also used to calculate how many points you may spend on attributes ((max. points/2)+(Race Cost*2)).
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