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« Reply #180 on: <08-20-12/1117:05> »
Conspiracy theory mentions "Kids and grandkids', so Fastjack might have more than one. He's a bit private, so who knows?

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« Reply #181 on: <08-20-12/1317:00> »
Oddly, the pic for Slamm-O! was my one major complaint about the supplemental, as it doesn't keep with anything that's been said/shown about him in past fiction, particularly, Game, Set, Match from SR4A... "but who
knew the annoying hacker had such a fine body? She’d thought he’d be one of those pasty-skinned couch potatoes"... SR4A pg 214. Now, issues of personal taste aside, I really don't see any female describing the droop-gutted, man-boob bedecked image from the supplemental pic as anything even close to a 'fine body'. Wasn't even any attempt to keep consistent in overall look from Game Set Match to the supplemental, since there's a character shot in the SR4A fiction.

I can let a lot of things slide in the interests of taking things from a 'consider it from within the game world' perspective, but the one thing I've always jumped on when I spot it is internal inconsistency.

Remember that the dossier was prepared by Clockwork -- does anyone put it past him to be mean-spirited enough to edit someone he dislikes into being unattractive?

That thought entered my mind the other day as I was re-reading Street Legends at work. Viewed from that perspective, the picture does seem rather like a caricature.
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« Reply #182 on: <11-09-12/0315:12> »
I love this line of books but I wish the distribution of races was more balanced. I realize Humans are the most common but come on... there is a combined total of 0 dwarves in these two books! I want to see more books in this series but I will actually be disappointed if the next book is 90% Humans.
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« Reply #183 on: <11-09-12/0319:34> »
But it's so easy to overlook dwarves, with how short they are and...  *Gets punched in the crotch and falls over in agony*
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« Reply #184 on: <11-09-12/0607:44> »
I can name, I think, a total of one top-end Mover and Shaker who's a dwarf: Arthur Vogel.
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« Reply #185 on: <11-09-12/0938:02> »
But it's so easy to overlook dwarves, with how short they are and...  *Gets punched in the crotch and falls over in agony*
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« Reply #186 on: <11-09-12/1102:06> »
I can name, I think, a total of one top-end Mover and Shaker who's a dwarf: Arthur Vogel.
There's also Strouthers, former runner and ex-Governor of Seattle. Other than them, yeah, it is hard to name any prominent dwarves. They just don't seem to advance as far as the other metatypes. Then again, they don't have the obvious physicality of orks and trolls, nor the looks of elves, and there are political disadvantages to always having to look up to humans, so perhaps that isn't surprising.
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« Reply #187 on: <11-09-12/1144:20> »
There are two dwarfs in "Sail Away, Sweet Sister," the long-brewing sequel to "Another Rainy Night." FWIW.
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« Reply #188 on: <11-09-12/1227:12> »
Hehe that is great although not an excuse. If Dwarves are one of the main races in the game, they should be represented in these books. The books are more like "Human Street Legends" lol. Don't get me wrong, I love the books and I'm eager to buy more but there is just too many Humans for my tastes.
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« Reply #189 on: <11-09-12/1250:55> »
Shadowjack, the simple fact is that there just aren't that many high profile dwarves, either as power players or as runners. As has been mentioned, I can name only three dwarves of note: Arthur Vogel, Julian Strouthers, and Lyran. I don't know of any other ones, either in the shadows or in public or private life. Most of the high profile people are Humans and Elves, with quite a few Orks. There's the odd troll in the mix, but that's mainly because they look like a living battering ram. Simply put, there aren't really any dwarves to profile.
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« Reply #190 on: <11-09-12/1902:02> »
There is also Darren Villers. But they are under represented, considering they are supposed to be more acceptable to the public.
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« Reply #191 on: <11-09-12/1903:23> »
There is also Darren Villers. But they are under represented, considering they are supposed to be more acceptable to the public.
More acceptable to the public than orks and trolls, certainly. But humans and elves are always the favorites.
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« Reply #192 on: <11-09-12/2046:58> »
Regardless though, if there is some small number, why not include at least one of them? I wouldn't be surprised if you guys are forgetting some notable Dwarves as well. Ultimately, if there is not a Dwarf in the next book, I will be disappointed. And why aren't there more prominent Dwarves? Come on! :)
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« Reply #193 on: <11-09-12/2110:42> »
Because there just aren't as many dwarf shadowrunners? And certainly not as many dwarf corporate executives? In public and private life, looks are often important to getting ahead, which is why most of the power players are Humans and Elves. Orks and Trolls have a small presence in the upper levels, especially in situations where intimidation is better than persuasion. Dwarves, on the other hand, are neither physically imposing like Orks and Trolls, nor good looking like elves. And humans literally look down on them. They're probably prevalent in middle management situations, and able to get their foot in the door where a troll never would, but you won't see many of them as high profile people.
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« Reply #194 on: <11-10-12/0008:19> »
They're also probably more popular in blue collar work, especially at night.
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