[Kot]

Heh. Good thing i don't have the mental images problem. And by the way, that would be a really good biz in SR. So, you want Nadia, but with a lot of special features, and you're not interested in fakes, or dolls? We have just the thing for you...

[Dead Monky]

Nethermancers: The ultimate in creepy fetish smut peddlers.  

[The_Gun_Nut]

Such dolls don't have souls, but nothing says you couldn't bind a spirit to the body to get some really hardcore freak on.

[Kot]

They are sentient, and can use their talents, and abilities. But they cannot be namegivers, so probably yes.

[Dead Monky]

Nut, you're forgetting that Alter Life lets you modify Namegivers pretty much however you want.  (Acid-spitting spider-orks anyone?)  Create Life makes the soulless automatons.

[Kot]

But sentient, smart and cunning automatons. Even if they don't have a soul.

[Dead Monky]

True.  I wonder what would happen if Shatter Pattern or Alter Form was used on them?

[The_Gun_Nut]

They still have a pattern, they just don't have a Namegiver pattern.  So shatter pattern and alter life should still work.

Of course, this starts delving into the question "just what does it take to make a Namegiver?"  The dragons could probably answer that, but they may become upset if one of the smaller races starts producing a few abominations as by-products of their experiments.

Hmmm, I think I just got the plot to another adventure!

[Kot]

Of course, this starts delving into the question "just what does it take to make a Namegiver?"  The dragons could probably answer that, but they may become upset if one of the smaller races starts producing a few abominations as by-products of their experiments.

I can answer that. Two Namegivers*, or a Liferock.

But seriously, you could use a Namegiver spirit. One of those who were stranded after death and did not go mad during the Scourge. Like a Ghost Master.

* Off course they have to be from both sexes.

[Dead Monky]

Nut, in the case of Alter Form, I'm more curious about what the effects of re-Naming would be on an artificial, yet intelligent, lifeform.  I suppose I could just try it on a drake.

Kot, I made a magic item by killing a rival Nethermancer, taking his skull, and binding his own spirit to it.  What can I say?  I'm a bit of a dick. 

[The_Gun_Nut]

I thought that was SOP for Nethermancers.

[Dead Monky]

Hmm.  Good point.  I suppose my Nethermancer isn't the only one that carries around a sack full of skeletons so he always has a convenient means of casting Animate Skeleton either, is he?

[The_Gun_Nut]

Why wouldn't you carry around the bones of your enemies?

[Kot]

Hmm.  Good point.  I suppose my Nethermancer isn't the only one that carries around a sack full of skeletons so he always has a convenient means of casting Animate Skeleton either, is he?

Gross. Use Astral Pocket instead. Or a threaded Bag.

[Dead Monky]

Why wouldn't you carry around the bones of your enemies?

Laziness?  Loaded up with gold instead?  I'm sure there are other reasons, but they all come from non-Nethermancers. 

Gross. Use Astral Pocket instead. Or a threaded Bag.

Pshaw.  Gross is when I reanimate one of the scorchers I killed to find out whether a room has any traps in it.  Or several dozen of them to fill up a pit I need to cross by making a squishy, squishy walkway.