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Title: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: The Seven on <04-09-11/2023:28>
Hello all.

As a Brazilian, I'd love to see my country covered in one of the 4E setting books.

Brazil, not Amazonia. We do got War!, but that only covers Bogotá and the Colombian/Aztlan boundaries, not south-South America. I was thinking a 2-city-in-depth-with-4-city-reviews kinda book, with Metrópole covered as an in-depth city. That way you guys could delve into regional stuff too, like the True Brazilians mercs from War!, the Santos Ziggurat (from the XBOX videogame) and maybe even some other unique features, much like Lagos' has.

So, what y'all think of it?
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: CanRay on <04-10-11/0133:09>
So, "Shadows of Latin American" anyone?

*Drives into a bomb shelter*
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: Grinder on <04-10-11/0236:52>
Brazil, not Amazonia.

Brazil doesn't exist anymore in the 6th World - or am I mistaken here?
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: The Seven on <04-10-11/0313:05>
So, "Shadows of Latin American" anyone?

*Drives into a bomb shelter*

Isn't it out-of-print and 3E? Something like the 60's? I was thinking something more contemporary.

Brazil, not Amazonia.

Brazil doesn't exist anymore in the 6th World - or am I mistaken here?

No, it doesn't. It's Amazonia, now. Damn Hestaby. Still, I could enjoy seeing what would get done to Metrópole.
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: CanRay on <04-10-11/0340:05>
So, "Shadows of Latin American" anyone?

*Drives into a bomb shelter*

Isn't it out-of-print and 3E? Something like the 60's? I was thinking something more contemporary.
Out of print?  Never saw print.  It's a thing that tends to get a lot of folks upset by even mentioning it...
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: Grinder on <04-10-11/1155:51>
Brazil, not Amazonia.

Brazil doesn't exist anymore in the 6th World - or am I mistaken here?

No, it doesn't. It's Amazonia, now. Damn Hestaby. Still, I could enjoy seeing what would get done to Metrópole.

You want a book detailing Brazil, even though you know that the country doesn't exist anymore? Wtf?
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: The Seven on <04-10-11/1641:19>
Brazil, not Amazonia.

Brazil doesn't exist anymore in the 6th World - or am I mistaken here?

No, it doesn't. It's Amazonia, now. Damn Hestaby. Still, I could enjoy seeing what would get done to Metrópole.

You want a book detailing Brazil, even though you know that the country doesn't exist anymore? Wtf?

No, not Brazil. Metrópole. Which is south Amazonia. Which is currently Brazilian territory.
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: Malex on <04-10-11/2123:05>
For the life of me I cannot find the thread with the link in it, but someone put up a link to the Dumpshock site that had the SoLA PDFs. Might have something in there for you.

Yeah, a Latin/South America book would be nice though. *scans the skies for impending death from above*
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: DesVoeux on <04-10-11/2206:18>
If you don't already have it, Sixth World Almanac has a (four page) section on Amazonia. Perhaps they could redo Runner Havens and replace the Seattle section (redundant with Seattle 2072) with Metrópole... but I wouldn't hold your breath.

Two more things: Hualpa is the boss of Amazonia, not Hestaby. And please never mention the 2007 "Shadowrun" video game ever again.
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: The Seven on <04-11-11/0002:04>
If you don't already have it, Sixth World Almanac has a (four page) section on Amazonia. Perhaps they could redo Runner Havens and replace the Seattle section (redundant with Seattle 2072) with Metrópole... but I wouldn't hold your breath.

Yeah, I won't.

Two more things: Hualpa is the boss of Amazonia, not Hestaby. And please never mention the 2007 "Shadowrun" video game ever again.

Oops.
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: Grinder on <04-11-11/0619:22>
No, not Brazil. Metrópole. Which is south Amazonia. Which is currently Brazilian territory.

Yeah. Whatever.
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: EmperorPenguin on <04-11-11/1338:46>
I can't blame you for wanting Shadowrun material on your hometown/country of residence - who doesn't!  We won't all be so lucky, though.  I think Winnipeg got a blurb in either SOTA or some other UCAS book.  A whole paragraph!

Other than that, you could always move to Seattle....
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: Netzgeist on <04-15-11/1644:21>
Well... I had plans form a campaign in my home city (which is Porto Alegre), and even though the Sixth World Almanac even say it exists (which is a lot, considering how this things goes) I can't be happy with it. There's almost no information about it, and (What-is-now) Brazil as a whole is almost completely left out of anything (Amazonia is one of these great areas with great potential in Shadowrun, but that the books touch just a little; are they afraid of us?).
I would really like to see how the developers see the nations of our Mercosul...
But I have almost no hope in it...
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: DesVoeux on <04-15-11/1758:45>
Be happy that your city is mentioned as existing without actually having any source material devoted to it! Now you can create whatever you want, and I guarantee that whatever you create will fit your vision better than whatever the developers come up with. It can actually be frustrating when you're very familiar with a place in real life, and then trying to reconcile that with what the Shadowrun universe has presented. For instance, I live in Seattle and sometimes I have to stop myself from going, "It shouldn't be this way!". (I solve the problem by remembering that it's fiction.)

In your specific case, I can only imagine that the lack of material on Amazonia reflects a lack of demand rather than anything Catalyst/FanPro/FASA have had against the region. Amazonia plays a big part in the Shadowrun universe, but the vast majority of the nation is an awakened rainforest and the government has never signed the Business Recognition Accords. (So most of the country is unpopulated, and the part that is populated lacks most of the megacorps that runners usually work for/against.)
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: Netzgeist on <04-16-11/1028:11>
In part I agree with you, DesVoux. But I already create and change whatever I want when I plan a game. But I'd like to read a little more of official material to give me ideas.

In my games, usually AIs are a lot more mysterious and rare that I see them in RAW material, but I like reading the references of they as being not so scarce to give me some ideas. The same with Amazonia. My view of it is quite different from the official one, but I'd like to know more about the official one, as most of the time, even when I don't want to use the source material, it has a nice research job on it.

And it's a little difficult to plan campaigns here, since, as you said, megacorps presence is not as intense.
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: DesVoeux on <04-16-11/1445:31>
I hear you. Even though I somewhat dread it, I'd still like to see an official depiction of my hometown of Austin, Texas.

Re: Amazonia. On the bright side, it seems like the older sourcebooks always described Amazonia as a place you simply couldn't run. (Or, if you did, it was incredibly hard.) Much like Tír Na Nóg and Tír Tairngire, actually. But the current leadership of Shadowrun seems to be making an effort to "open up" the entire Sixth World to players and GMs. Amazonia is seemingly much more open, Tír Na Nóg's Veil is failing, and Tír Tairngire is a nominal democracy now.
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: The_Gun_Nut on <04-16-11/1452:35>
I think it's reflective of real life somewhat that these nations who closed themselves off found out that the world around them kept on moving.  Sometimes without them.

They made the hard choice to rejoin the 6th world and let in the shadowrunners.  Spirits help them now.  8)
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: Wolfboy on <04-17-11/2028:39>
well i for one would love to see a write up on Metropole, Winnipeg was in Shadows of North America or Target: UCAS i dont remember which at the moment. and isnt Austin either a divided city or else in enemy (Atzlan) hands, which leave a hellacious opening for the WAR rewrite. Or you could do all of those write ups and send them to me for the DDH. (sorry shameless plug, we're working hard on it
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: Wesley Street on <04-19-11/0940:33>
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Metropole supposed to be the largest contiguous sprawl in the Sixth World in terms of square kilometers? Seems like that would be a setting worth exploring in some sort of supplement.
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: CanRay on <04-19-11/1011:54>
Yeah, but then they'd have to do maps, and after Target:  Bogota, er, War!

Sorry, can't help it.
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: Malex on <04-25-11/2336:27>
Target:  Bogota, er, War!

Sorry, can't help it.

More or less.
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: mozartprado on <07-01-11/1240:33>
Have you checked http://d3system.com.br/category/sistemas/shadowrun/

Theres an idea that never became official but yet its a good work.

I'm also brasilian, living in São Paulo and for me whatever is called (in Shadowrun setting) this spot here must be a nice metropolitan area since there's a big change that in the next few years we start to make fast travels connecting Rio, São Paulo and Curitiba, this might help to make those places to become one... even if a Carnival feathered serpent took control of the jungles we at south would be quite well with our tech based society... also never saw much about Manaus, that I take as the jewel of Amazonia, that they never made official as capital city for there but I think would be the best option.

Also the D3 idea to make Northeast South America to look like africa is quite accurate since it have a nice strategic position for piracy and stuff... yet he named that portion as Brasil but might have another name for that I don't think any pirate would care what the hell they call their turf.

Also we could have more ideas for the rest of the South South America, Chile and Argentina have those Inca culture over there, the Mayans would be within Amazonia territory but might have even more magical crap for southern side of south america yet to be discovered...

For me yet I like better to use Curitiba-São Paulo-Belo Horizonte-Rio de Janeiro as setting, they cover most of megacorp infested areas and runner heavens in the borderlines and the all mighty favelas, those are the ones I love most...

Also why no one even cared to point the future of our nice big companies, we have VALE and PETROBRAS that are some players not to be forgotten...
Title: Re: 4E South Amazonian setting book request!
Post by: The Seven on <07-01-11/1940:07>
Appreciate the link, mozart, great stuffs!