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Title: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: JM_Hardy on <02-18-11/0102:37>
Hey there people!

Runner's Toolkit is rushing toward a wonderful conclusion, and we decided to give you all a voice in the final shape of a part of it--namely, the back of the GM screen. We've got two great images of the Seattle skyline, the red one and the blue one, and we need to know which one you like. So head on over to the blog (http://www.shadowrun4.com (http://www.shadowrun4.com)), take a look at the options, then vote! Voting closes Sunday night!

Jason H.
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Post by: CanRay on <02-18-11/0114:31>
Blue.  Looks like a wonderful night scene which is perfect for Shadowruns.
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Post by: TeOdio on <02-18-11/0120:08>
Red, the color of BLOOD. And if I had my choice, it would be Victoria Harbor and the Hong Kong skyline. But I'm biased that way. ;D
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Post by: BookWyrm on <02-18-11/0131:19>
I agree with CanRay. Blue looks better, but I say print half-count blue & half-count red.
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Post by: larskrygan on <02-18-11/0155:29>
can we have a green one ?  ;D

someone had to say it lol

i prefer the red one, you can see some more details than in the other one ( well that is what appears to me on the portfiolo for the sr4a limited  edition ) geek power arise !!
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Post by: LonePaladin on <02-18-11/0244:36>
The blue syncs better with the new color-scheme.
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Post by: Critias on <02-18-11/0248:50>
Blue.  Night time is the right time...for running the Shadows!
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Post by: Henker on <02-18-11/0249:40>
The blue syncs better and it looks like "Seattle by Night" proess for Runners
:)
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: CyberT2000 on <02-18-11/0351:03>
The blue one is perfect in my opinion.  ;D

As a side question : will the toolkit be available as a pdf product ?

if the answer is yes, Will the GM screen be a part of the package ?
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Post by: wulfsage on <02-18-11/0357:03>
Blue without a doubt
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Post by: Lansdren on <02-18-11/0357:52>
Blue without a doubt
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Mystic on <02-18-11/0401:42>
I could make a joke about US political affiliations...but nah. And like secret ballot, I'M NOT TELLING neener-neener-neener!

 ;D

Both look cool however.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: skulldier on <02-18-11/0443:41>
Definitely blue. Helps set the mood better than the red one. For my games, at least.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Morg on <02-18-11/0454:08>
in runner havens they describe the "Emerald city" AR I would love that as my GM screen but as there are only two choices I like the Red
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Post by: Da_Prince on <02-18-11/0509:57>
Hoi!

Well, blue is the night sky one, but me thinks the red one gives a better impression of the nice skyline pic.

Greetings from Carbonado!
da P.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Reverendo on <02-18-11/0620:02>
Blue. It´s night time...
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Post by: FastJack on <02-18-11/0802:02>
Green! No bl-!

AAAAAUUUGGHHHhhhhh...
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: JM_Hardy on <02-18-11/0837:32>
The blue one is perfect in my opinion.  ;D

As a side question : will the toolkit be available as a pdf product ?

if the answer is yes, Will the GM screen be a part of the package ?

We're working on the exact details of this. My current position is that I would like to answer "Yes" to both questions, but we'll see how this works out in the end.

Jason H.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: CyberT2000 on <02-18-11/0857:09>
Thank you for the quick answer.
Count one buyer for an electronic version (if it released) and for the printed one
 ;).
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Post by: Prime Mover on <02-18-11/0858:23>
Blue for the night sky aspect.  That and red one already on the Seattle book.
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Post by: Blodnatt13 on <02-18-11/1045:53>
I vote Blue.
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Post by: Starglyte on <02-18-11/1229:43>
Blue looks much better.
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Post by: FastJack on <02-18-11/1237:38>
Poor Team Red. They never get any love.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Outrider45 on <02-18-11/1331:21>
Blue just looks nicer. Its got that nocturnal feel to it that says 'Time to play in the shadows chummer!".
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Trenchknife on <02-18-11/1342:50>
Just one....I pick the blue one.  But what I'd really like to see is a split shot.  Split the screen along a diagonal, upper right to lower left, with the left hand being red and the right being the blue.  I think that would be awesome!
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Post by: Raventrickster on <02-18-11/1344:46>
But what I'd really like to see is a split shot.  Split the screen along a diagonal, upper right to lower left, with the left hand being red and the right being the blue.  I think that would be awesome!

That actually sounds really interesting.  That said, of the choices available, definitely blue.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Medicineman on <02-18-11/1504:14>
The Blue One
for the German Chummers: Schwarz zu Blau  ;)
And for the American Chummers
there is a really fitting German song by Peter Fox from Seeed called "Black to Blue" its about the Berlin Nightlife ,and when its very early and the Sun starts to rise and the Sky turns from Black to Blue

He who Dances to Seeed
Medicineman
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: theKernel on <02-18-11/1630:29>
That was a hard vote but the red isn't used much so we needed a change.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Sichr on <02-18-11/1731:02>
...
pink???
...

OK no

BLUE

edit: We would add some red splashes once inside the "shadowbox", wuldn`t we?  ;D
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Post by: Major Doom on <02-18-11/2124:48>
Sacre Bleu!
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: MJBurrage on <02-18-11/2133:56>
By themselves, both look good, but the Blue version fits the game's theme much better.

I would also vote for no logos or writing on the city-scape. It would detract from the impact.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Mantis on <02-19-11/0235:02>
Def. blue. The red is too harsh to look at. I like to lull my players in a sense of security and red is just too obviously the opposite.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Doc-Byte on <02-19-11/0953:48>
can we have a green one ?  ;D

someone had to say it lol

Neon green would be awesome.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: blackheart on <02-19-11/1012:01>
Gotsta go with the blue, and not just because it's my fav color.

It just looks cooler.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: fexes on <02-19-11/1218:23>
I like the green one  ;D

(http://www.fexes.de/downloads/seattle_colored.jpg)
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Doc-Byte on <02-19-11/1335:45>
I like the green one  ;D

I want exactly this one! 8)
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Post by: Medicineman on <02-19-11/1340:16>
I like the green one  ;D

I want exactly this one! 8)

Me too

with an Emerald Dance
medicineman
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: theKernel on <02-19-11/1556:39>
I like the green one  ;D

(http://www.fexes.de/downloads/seattle_colored.jpg)
I want the green one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Sichr on <02-19-11/1650:52>
Looks nicely toxic :)
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Sichr on <02-19-11/1655:06>
Maybe you should just, you know, mybe you should just sell the print with slightly vissible contures and put a pack of crayons to the box...everyone happy

 ;D
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: JM_Hardy on <02-19-11/1951:49>
It's very possible that both versions will be in the PDF set …

Jason H.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Def on <02-20-11/0310:36>
The blue one for sure!
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Grinder on <02-20-11/0424:29>
Check it out: Green version (http://"http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/050/c/0/seattle_2072_re_colored_by_fexes-d39wxsi.jpg") - Seattle is the "Emerald City" after all, isn't it?

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Post by: aimlessfreak on <02-20-11/0618:36>
gotta be the blue
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Post by: MJBurrage on <02-20-11/1123:22>
I like Franz Ernst (fexes (http://fexes.deviantart.com/)) "green" version as much as the blue (maybe more). I also like that there is no Shadowrun logo (in the version linked here) to distract from immersion in the scene.

Working links (note that, until I logged in to Deviant Art, the in-post image by fexes did not display in his post, nor the response) not sure if that will be true for others and the last two links below)

PS Is there a way to control image size in the version of BBCode used here? i tried [img=100] and [img width="100"] with no joy.

PPS fexes (http://fexes.deviantart.com/) also has a great SoLA cover and maps in his Shadowrun Gallery (http://fexes.deviantart.com/gallery/23433441).
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Stalker on <02-21-11/0931:43>
Damn all of you! Now I'll have to hire a team of Shadowrunners to infiltrate Catalyst's printer and sabotage the cyan, so we'll have a nice red GM screen. :D

Btw, does anybody know why they changed the window pattern on the lower levels of the Arc in the blue version? Suggestions and conspiracy theories are highly welcome.
(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6262/thjttegladvo6.gif)
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Post by: Alcyon on <02-21-11/1508:40>
Blue!
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Post by: Gatogris on <02-22-11/1132:31>
i like blue
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Post by: CanRay on <02-22-11/1149:00>
*Wears a button that says "I Like Ike"*
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Post by: aimlessfreak on <02-22-11/2115:11>
*Wears a button that says "I Like Ike"*

Can i get one for the Bull-moose party?
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Bull on <02-22-11/2224:58>
Can i get one for the Bull-moose party?

No. ;)
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Post by: aimlessfreak on <02-22-11/2225:28>
Can i get one for the Bull-moose party?

No. ;)

Awwwww :'(
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Post by: FastJack on <02-22-11/2329:47>
Can i get one for the Bull-moose party?

No. ;)

Awwwww :'(
I think he's only got "Bull/Squirrel" buttons left. ;)
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Lansdren on <02-23-11/1554:43>
so is there a explination for the difference in the two pictures?
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Post by: CanRay on <02-23-11/1604:17>
so is there a explination for the difference in the two pictures?
Red Versus Blue, the eternal battle!
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Post by: Grim on <02-24-11/0018:48>
Blue... It fits the feel of Shadowrun.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: Lansdren on <02-24-11/0408:55>
so is there a explination for the difference in the two pictures?
Red Versus Blue, the eternal battle!


I was meaning the difference in windows on the Arc
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Post by: The Laughing Man on <02-24-11/1628:09>
Definately Green!

The red and blue are ok but the green really screams everything shadowrun! Plus the other colors in the pic really make the city come to life.

Check it out: Green version (http://"http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/050/c/0/seattle_2072_re_colored_by_fexes-d39wxsi.jpg") - Seattle is the "Emerald City" after all, isn't it?

And this. ^
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: CanRay on <02-24-11/2017:13>
so is there a explination for the difference in the two pictures?
Red Versus Blue, the eternal battle!
I was meaning the difference in windows on the Arc
Oh...

Darn, and I wanted to play Sarge, too.
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: shotofentropy on <02-25-11/2127:26>
When did companies go to images on the back anyways? I'm sure there are some tables or rules or something that would be more useful than the Seattle skyline, especially for, say, a C-Springs campaign.  I vote for neither, sorry folks (I know it means nothing, an this will still come out in print with one image or another)
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Post by: MJBurrage on <02-26-11/0103:20>
Player tables on the screen might be nice in theory; but in practice, most players will not be sitting close enough to read them.
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Post by: Critias on <02-26-11/1811:49>
When did companies go to images on the back anyways?
Uhm...when haven't they?

Looking through all the GM screens I've got right now (Shadowrun and otherwise), they've all got crunchy bits on the inside for the GM, and artwork on the outside for the players. 

What game(s) do you have that have charts or something on both sides?   :o
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Post by: CanRay on <02-26-11/1931:15>
The old (West End Games old!) Star Wars GM Screens had charts on both sides.
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Post by: Caiman on <02-27-11/0524:37>
Yay for blue!

I just registered because i thought i could still vote! :D

Anyhow... i wanted blue, so... everything´s fine. :P
Title: Re: Runner's Toolkit GM Screen--what should it look like?
Post by: JM_Hardy on <02-27-11/1800:58>
Yay for blue!

I just registered because i thought i could still vote! :D

Anyhow... i wanted blue, so... everything´s fine. :P

Whatever the reason is you registered, we're happy to have you here!

Jason H.
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Post by: Medicineman on <02-28-11/0149:54>
When did companies go to images on the back anyways?
Uhm...when haven't they?

Looking through all the GM screens I've got right now (Shadowrun and otherwise), they've all got crunchy bits on the inside for the GM, and artwork on the outside for the players. 

What game(s) do you have that have charts or something on both sides?   :o
Deadlands has it, 1 of the many D&D Screens had it,The Midgard Screen(the oldest German Fantasy RPG,appr. 30 Years old) ....
Quite  some Screens are printed with Lists & Charts on both sides

with a Dance on both sides
Medicineman