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The_Gun_Nut

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« Reply #30 on: <09-15-12/1401:16> »
Actually, guys, the discussion is kinda moot.

There's already a spell in Street Magic called "Pulse"... and, yes, it's Manipulation... that creates an EMP blast that specifically state it'll short out RFID tags and other non-optical circuits. Just have to beat their Object Resistance.

I would assume Hardening adds to the OR for this, but that's just my interpretation.
Seems the others ran right past this one, JAD.

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« Reply #31 on: <09-15-12/1424:23> »
Right, so running a scanner over several frequencies (Takes maybe a couple hours to go through them, and you don't even have to be present if you got a sprite or agent) and pinging them all that way would EVENTUALLY identify them all and you could get to deprogramming them. Right?
There's a nearly infinite number of possible radio frequencies, and an astronomical number of possible code sequences even if you knew how many digits it was. It could well take you longer than the lifespan of the universe to find the right combination of the two to activate the tags.

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« Reply #32 on: <09-15-12/2005:44> »
You can't stop the signal!
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« Reply #33 on: <09-16-12/0047:08> »
Guy killed me, Mal. He killed me with a sword. How weird is that?
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« Reply #34 on: <09-16-12/0055:09> »
Guy killed me, Mal. He killed me with a sword. How weird is that?
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Sorry, had to bring this back on topic somehow.
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« Reply #35 on: <09-16-12/0057:39> »
at least it wasn't a conan replica blade, "now available with REAL ATLANTEAN COMBAT FOCI!!!"
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« Reply #36 on: <09-16-12/1232:25> »
at least it wasn't a conan replica blade, "now available with REAL ATLANTEAN COMBAT FOCI!!!"
Actually, that'd be five-kinds of awesome if they're real Foci!
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« Reply #37 on: <09-16-12/2323:54> »
at least it wasn't a conan replica blade, "now available with REAL 'ATLANTEAN COMBAT' FOCI!!!"
Actually, that'd be five-kinds of awesome if they're real Foci!

be even better if it came with NO RFID tags!!
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« Reply #38 on: <09-16-12/2345:50> »
Important thing to remember: security RFID tags (I'm not sure about stealth tags) are immune to tag erasers.  :3
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« Reply #39 on: <09-17-12/0038:19> »
Important thing to remember: security RFID tags (I'm not sure about stealth tags) are immune to tag erasers.  :3

Doesn't say anything about spells.....

(and in my opinion that immunity to Tag erasers is bullshit. RFIDs are retardedly annoying to use in game enough, there's no need to make it worse.)
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« Reply #40 on: <09-17-12/1008:14> »
...and in my opinion that immunity to Tag erasers is bullshit. RFIDs are retardedly annoying to use in game enough, there's no need to make it worse.

Agreed. A secure RFID still has to operate in a challenge/response system. You amp up the signal on the challenge side high enough and you'll burn out the tag.
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« Reply #41 on: <09-17-12/1154:55> »
...and in my opinion that immunity to Tag erasers is bullshit. RFIDs are retardedly annoying to use in game enough, there's no need to make it worse.

Agreed. A secure RFID still has to operate in a challenge/response system. You amp up the signal on the challenge side high enough and you'll burn out the tag.

Ditto on the agreement.

Personally, I read the fluff of it as a standard Tag Eraser not having enough "juice" to burn out the hardened circuits. A HERF gun, or a strong enough the Pulse spell should get the job done just fine.
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« Reply #42 on: <09-17-12/1157:35> »
Personally, I read the fluff of it as a standard Tag Eraser not having enough "juice" to burn out the hardened circuits.

Not a bad approach.
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Absolute power is kinda neat.

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« Reply #43 on: <09-17-12/1301:08> »
...and in my opinion that immunity to Tag erasers is bullshit. RFIDs are retardedly annoying to use in game enough, there's no need to make it worse.

Agreed. A secure RFID still has to operate in a challenge/response system. You amp up the signal on the challenge side high enough and you'll burn out the tag.

Ditto on the agreement.

Personally, I read the fluff of it as a standard Tag Eraser not having enough "juice" to burn out the hardened circuits. A HERF gun, or a strong enough the Pulse spell should get the job done just fine.
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