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Catalyst Game Labs => Errata => Topic started by: Patrick Goodman on <09-10-10/0850:16>
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While I'm not going to transplant the entire thread from Dumpshock here, I am going to address a few things from "The Infected" that I think ought to be corrected in Running Wild errata.
Harvesters: Some changes crept in between editions, and I didn't catch them. The harvester's Magic should be upped to 3. It should also be noted that the Body-vs-Magic restriction of the Movement power is ignored (these things are supposed to be scary fast, and they can't use Movement on anybody else; this is a special exception).
Feel free to drop in with your suggestions.
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Still waiting on the Augmentation errata we were told was just waiting one more persons clearance and then we'd get it before Christmas.....08.
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Don't know about that, but I do know a lot of crap was going on back at that time. I do know I'm pushing to get RW errata out, if only to fix a couple of my typos. I can agitate with TPTB for the rest of the errata, too.
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Ahh errata what would we do with out it ???
Oh yeah be confused..... ;D
Thanks for the info there Patrick
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No problem, Casazil. I wanted the harvesters to be scary to players who don't automatically min-max everything, and I think for the most part I succeeded. I just made a couple of mistakes in that I didn't notice some of the power changes going into SR4A. Should have read things a little more carefully there.
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While I won't cut-and-paste the entire thread over on Dumpshock, it is a good reference and so I'll link to it. It'll help me later if I wind up being the guy who compiles this one....
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=28110
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You might want to go through the sections with aquatic creatures. While I am willing to run it as printed, it does appear hilarious that IIRC some paracritters like the para-sharks do not have Gills.
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Um, here's an issue that jumped out at me when I was reading through the book. Pg. 92, second column, under Canines...
Hyenas are not canines. They're not even in the same family; they're more closely related to cats, and even closer to mongooses and meerkats. Kinda sloppy research here, in an otherwise great book.
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@I Hate All Life
He's right, I always thought hyenas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_hyena) were canine until he pointed it out.
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Carnivora
Suborder: Feliformia -- Same suborder as cats according to gray
Family: Hyaenidae
BTW... there's already an ardwolf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aardwolf) in the natural world but they diverge from hyenas at the family level. They feed primarily on insects.
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I mean, what gets me, is the smallest amount of research would have told the author this. Hell, just type "hyena" into Google and you'd have gotten that. I'd have been happy with a parenthetical disclaimer somewhere on the page, such as, ("Hyenas aren't actually canines, but statistically they are treated as such.") :-\
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For that matter, why aren't bears listed under canines? I mean, they are part of Caniformia just as hyenas are part of Feliformia!
[/end sarcastic reply to homo-nitpickius posters]
Should hyenas be listed under canines? Technically, no. Are they built more like, hunt like and are viewed more like dogs? Yes. Maybe in a future edition you'll get a disclaimer, but something like that wouldn't stop me from getting the book.
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Yes, this is thread necro. Yes, it's for a purpose.
In the not-terribly-distant future, I will be posting an unofficial errata for the Infected section of Running Wild, a la what Critias is doing with Way of the Adept, etc. It will be just the stuff I'm responsible for, so a lot of things won't get fixed, but I hope a couple of things will.
I'll post here when it's done.
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That is awesome patrick, thank you very much. Running wild is a fun read.
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It's refreshing to see that the writers care enough to do this kind of thing. Kudos!
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After re-reading the Infected section, and then going back through a LOT of discussions on Dumpshock about the book (particularly the Infected), I have compiled my proposed errata for that section. It's remarkably short, less than a page. I've submitted it to Jason so I can make it official, so it'll be a little while longer before I post it.
If it takes too long, however, I'll just post it anyway, with or without the official imprimatur.
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Jason hasn't had the chance to sign off on this, but he did say he was cool with me posting it unofficially, so here it is: Errata for "The Infected" from Running Wild (https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1A7YbHZRK4_MFTH6PCO3WKiF-cY_dWHfzBKG4Q63a4mI). Link is also in my sig. Enjoy.
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ugh, just reminds me how badly messed up the SR errata issue is (especially after the print run of at least one book that was reverted to pre-errata state).
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Made a couple of tweaks. Version 1.1 is now available.
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How come almost none of the Paracritters in Running Wild are dual natured but almost all of the paracritters in SR4A are? Is this errata? Is there something i'm missing?
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Hey Patrick, thanks for doing these and posting them. Could you clarify something about Animal Training ( pg. 36 RW) it says an animal can be trained to increase it's natural skills or it can be trained in a new skill. The example is a Newfoundlander dog and a cat being trained to Swim but this only covers the difficulty.
It says natural skills can be trained to 1.5 times the natural skill or 6, whichever is lower. What would the limit be for the new skill? Like for the dog in the example what would be his 'natural' skill value for the new Swim skill?. I thought about using the linked Attribute for the 'natural' skill value limit with the usual limits of 1.5 times that or 6 as with any other skill.
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Version 1.2 of the Unofficial Infected Errata for Running Wild is up. Found a typo in the TOC, of all places. Link is in my sig.